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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on April 28, 2011, 07:16:17 PM
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It appears a large number of GOP voters are idiots. Please oh please can we have some Republicans running for the Republican nomination?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/28/fox-news-poll-romney-huckabee-gop-2012-preferences/
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:facepalm:
jim
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Among voters who consider themselves part of the Tea Party movement, Huckabee (19 percent) and Romney (17 percent) are still the top two choices
What is it about media mis-attribution of Tea Partiers? Sheesh. A Bible-Belt Populist and a New England sissy RINO blueblood that likes State Healthcare are "favorites" of Tea Partiers? Somehow I doubt it.
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Meh. It's name recognition. Whoever you were hoping to find at the top of the list (Pawlenty, Christie, etc.), they're not getting any support because no one's heard of them. Palin, Paul and Gingrich have had too much negative thrown against them, so they're not polling any higher, either.
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Jesus Christ...
We're boned!
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Sarah Palin is an idiot. Left alone in a room with a piece of paper and a pen I don't think she could write a letter.
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Wow. Way to go, Republican Party, snatch that defeat from the jaws of victory!
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Sarah Palin is an idiot. Left alone in a room with a piece of paper and a pen I don't think she could write a letter.
Oh please let's not fight that battle again.
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At least Huckabee is pro-2nd, and didn't sign a universal healthcare bill into law. I still don't get how Romney is a fiscal conservative. ???
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At least Huckabee is pro-2nd, and didn't sign a universal healthcare bill into law. I still don't get how Romney is a fiscal conservative. ???
My big problem with Huckabee is that he's constantly talking about how getting things done in government is all about compromise. Well, he's mostly correct, but given how uncompromising Dems have been of late (i.e., "Pass the health care law and then we'll let you read what's in it"), I don't want someone in office who'll give up the farm without a fight.
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Guys like Romney and Huckabee, in addition to being RINO material, are "muddle through" candidates that reflect the desire of too many Republicans and especially the GOP elite to not come to grips with the gravity of what we are facing economically, socially, culturally, and politically. Unless we embrace the "extremism" of reality we can kiss this Republic goodbye.
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There is plenty of track record out there for me to not trust east coast rinos or Arkansas governors.
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At this point I think the GOP should just mount Bob Dole to a stool, set him on stage, and let 1996 (sans Perot) play out again.
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At least Huckabee is pro-2nd, and didn't sign a universal healthcare bill into law. I still don't get how Romney is a fiscal conservative. ???
That is all. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pLOC4krZI4)
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Wow. Way to go, Republican Party, snatch that defeat from the jaws of victory!
Indeed.
Oh well, still time for a better candidate to come along /wishful thinking
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There is plenty of track record out there for me to not trust east coast rinos or Arkansas governors.
Now this is funny. Well played.
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Romneycare and the Huckster are, hopefully, at their high water mark.
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Indeed.
Oh well, still time for a better candidate to come along /wishful thinking
Now if there was a person with executive experience and solid small-government record.
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Now if there was a person with executive experience and solid small-government record.
Maybe also a reputation for rooting out corruption/cronyism.
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I'm hearing that Huckabee dropped out.
I'm hoping that Chuck Norris is responsible for this. Now if we can just get Chuck to take a trip up to Taxachusetts and glare sternly at Romney.
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Maybe also a reputation for rooting out corruption/cronyism.
Cut the size of government and you almost by default reduce corruption.
If opening a business requires the decisionmaking of 100 clerks following vague standards, it's almost a recipe for corruption.
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Now if there was a person with executive experience and solid small-government record.
And what does it say about the conservative movement that there's not?
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And what does it say about the conservative movement that there's not?
I'm pretty sure MicroBalrog has someone in mind.
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Losing!! If Ron Paul was alive I'd vote for him.
I klnow...I know.
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Cut the size of government and you almost by default reduce corruption.
If opening a business requires the decisionmaking of 100 clerks following vague standards, it's almost a recipe for corruption.
The truth is strong in this statement.
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Well, look what we got with the last Republican president...
Patriot Act
TSA
DHS
Two foreign wars
Medicare Part something or other
Obama
:mad:
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Tallpine...you left out an economic collapse and a bailout of the financial industry.
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Tallpine...you left out an economic collapse and a bailout of the financial industry.
It's really hard to keep track of it all .... =(
Though I wouldn't blame Bush for the economic collapse directly.
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It's really hard to keep track of it all .... =(
Though I wouldn't blame Bush for the economic collapse directly.
I wouldn't blame him for it at all.
He ATTEMPTED to reign in FNMA and FHLBB and was shot down by the Dems protecting their pet projects/cronies.
And yet people still blame him for their mess. :facepalm:
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How about an Alan Keyes / John Bolton ticket? [tinfoil] (it's so crazy, it just might work)
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How about an Alan Keyes / John Bolton ticket? [tinfoil] (it's so crazy, it just might work)
You got the wrong Alan. You want Allen West. And Alan Keyes for vice. Two black Republicans, twice the Uncle Tom Race Traitors for the leftists to scream about.
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Well, look what we got with the last Republican president...
Patriot Act
TSA
DHS
Two foreign wars
Medicare Part something or other
Obama
:mad:
So, Osama bin Laden & Al Qaeda had nothing to do with those? ;/ Maybe Shrubbie should had sent OBL a nastygram. Billions in damage and 2,973 human beings dead. That shouldn't cause a war? :facepalm: :mad:
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So, Osama bin Laden & Al Qaeda had nothing to do with those? ;/ Maybe Shrubbie should had sent OBL a nastygram. Billions in damage and 2,973 human beings dead. That shouldn't cause a war? :facepalm: :mad:
Not these kinds of wars. We've lost a lot more people so far in war than we did on 9-11.
Go in fast, break things, kill some people, and then leave.
Tell them we'll be back if they don't behave, next time with the Big N. >:D
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So, Osama bin Laden & Al Qaeda had nothing to do with those? ;/
Carry on. Explain how Iraq attacked America on 9/11.
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Huckabee and Romney are placemarkers. As I see it the struggle inside the conservative movement is about coming to grips with the fact that working within the system as we've known it is only going to take us further down the path of statism, usurpation of power by the financial power elite, and irresponsible corporatism. What's being processed is what working outside the system as we've known it really entails. Does it mean nominating a "marginal" candidate? Does it mean focusing on taking the Senate while holding the House? Does it mean shoring up Republican Governors? Or does it mean sowing the seeds of The Great Separation? Right now there's confusion and apathy because half this country senses that we get nowhere by nominating the same old names with the same old programs, but the next step is dramatic, convulsive, dangerous.
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I'd really like to hear more about Mitch Daniels, Herman Cain, and Gary Johnson along with some others. I'm not convinced at any of those three, but I know I'm not a fan of the typical media selections like Romney and Huckabee.
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"Go in fast, break things, kill some people, and then leave.
Tell them we'll be back if they don't behave, next time with the Big N. "
I subscribe to this, except for the Big N. That's not necessary. We can do more damage in other ways.
In addition, remind them we are traders and consumers. Play nice and we'll be a partner not an enemy.
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Carry on. Explain how Iraq attacked America on 9/11.
So, Osama bin Laden & Al Qaeda had nothing to do with those?
I sorta think OBL & Al Qaeda had something to do with 9/11 ........ [tinfoil]
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Don't duck when I make a point or you'll miss it.
I didn't say Iraq attacked America.
I have problems with Iraq. The central reason was we believed they had WMDs (which include chemical weapons as he used on the Kurds -- relatively easy to make). We all know the disasterous heritage of our quest to locate them.
The point was that without the 9/11 attacks, I don't believe Bush (or anyone) could have pulled of the Iraq war. Despite the WMD fiasco we did eliminate Saddam and his two nasty offspring.
Would I do it again? Certainly NOT knowing what we know now, but the necessity did seem pretty good at the time.
One can engage in a lot of silly conspiracy theories on how Bush the Younger was trying to complete what Bush the Elder started and all that. I don't buy it. And I don't feel like employing a lot of quotes, citations, and a truckload of appendices, 'cause this is just my belief on the thing, and if you disagree, fine.
It's a tad hard to prove something that is a "sense," "alternate history." "What would have happened if??" IF there had been no 9/11 attack?
Would Bush have gone into iraq. I don't think so. YMMV. That's life.
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The point was that without the 9/11 attacks, I don't believe Bush (or anyone) could have pulled of the Iraq war.
Convenient, wasn't it...? =|
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Convenient, wasn't it...? =|
Sure was....and we fell for it.....the excuse for Iraq, that is....9/11 was still al-Q's fault, and bin Laden deserved every double-tap he got....
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Convenient, wasn't it...? =|
It wasn't .... "convenient" for the people in the World Trade Towers. :O
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The real WMD is Wahhabism, but the source of that is, well, off-target. I think we all know why, which renders much of what we are doing largely meaningless. And the meaninglessness is by design.
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.....deleted due to rereading prior posts.....sorry.....
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Meh. It's name recognition.
It's also just plain laziness.
The first week of early voting is done. 280 people have voted in a town of 17,000, with approximately 15,000 old enough to vote. That includes any county residents coming in to vote for school board. Traditionally, about two thirds vote early. Last year's city council election turnout was 692.
As a candidate with a website, I have ads triggering on every candidate's name and every search even remotely related to council elections, so I see stats on how many times people Google anything about the election. 27,000 of the 30,000 searches were from people looking for directions to something local. 1,200 were from people looking for appraisal district information. (A lot of people have had their property appraisals go up significantly in the last couple of months and are looking for the process to contest it.) 25 were searches for the names of councilmembers or candidates other than me - six of those for members either not up for election or unopposed. 131 for other election/council/ISD related terms. 40 people searching for my name or some variant. (Though I intentionally made the URL a lot easier for most people to remember than my name since there are at least two businesses and 30-40 people in town with very similar last names. Most of the hits on my website are direct links from local blogs, Facebook links, or people typing in the URL.)
There might have been a hundred people at the candidate forum, and again, that includes SISD candidates and, thus, county voters. Questions were pretty soft for non-incumbents. As I understand it, the Dublin/DISD forum had a similar turnout with a city population of about 7,000.
Overall, barely 200 people care enough to Google for any information on candidates. Five people have called, emailed or approached me at public events to ask my position on any issues.
Finding 500 people who will complain about something the council has done is easy. Getting that many to vote is like pulling teeth. Getting them to actually research candidates for even five minutes so there might be a chance they know who and what they're voting for appears to be impossible.