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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: AZRedhawk44 on May 19, 2011, 12:58:56 PM
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/may/17/senator-questions-benefits-to-adult-baby/
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That's a grown man, playing at being a baby.
He's been getting SSI for almost 10 years.
He can build a "crib" capable of holding a 350 pound adult "baby" (himself).
He used to work as a security guard.
Tom Coburn is calling for the Social Security Administration to investigate him.
“You wanna test how damn serious I am about leaving this world, screw with my check that pays for this apartment and food. Try it. See how serious I am. I don’t care,” the California man said. “I have no problem killing myself. Take away the last thing keeping me here, and see what happens. Next time you see me on the news, it will be me in a body bag.”
Don't let the door hit you in the *expletive deleted*ss on your way out, buddy. :mad:
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Next time you see me on the news, it will be me in a body bag
I don't think that they make one that big =|
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Saw him on cable.
IMO, the woman who lives with him as his "Mommy" or "Nanny" is frankly more disturbing than he is.
Anyone visited his website?
http://www.bedwettingabdl.com/
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Two worthless sacks of ****.
Sawdust
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“I have no problem killing myself."
Have at it, jackwagon. (Be sure to set up a webcam.) [popcorn]
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Saw him on cable.
IMO, the woman who lives with him as his "Mommy" or "Nanny" is frankly more disturbing than he is.
Anyone visited his website?
http://www.bedwettingabdl.com/
But where else can you go for advice when your Mom finds out you are a Diaper Lover?
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Didn't we have one of this sort on APS/THR a while back? Who wanted to enlist in the Army?
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Help me here.
I remember reading somewhere that this individual has a job. Is that not true?
If he is capable of holding a job, why on earth should he not go get a job?
If he is not capable of holding a job, fine and dandy. But if he is capable of working, the fact he's weird does not in any way mean he should not work.
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I am having a really hard time considering this a mental illness worthy of public support. He did hold down a security guard job for a while, has skills enough to manage a website, and built a high chair husky enough to hold a 350lb dude. That sounds pretty employable from a skills standpoint to me.
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It's the socialism, stupid.
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I.... I'm not sure what the heck to say. Why is it that he's been on SSI for 10 years, when there are those in this country in desperate need who are waiting 2+ years for the same welfare? =|
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This fills me with red hot anger.
There are so many good, hard working people out there that actually need help. They care about their health, and their lives.
This idiot is threatening to kill himself if he stops getting handouts? Why hasn't he been picked up for threatening himself yet?
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Help me here.
I remember reading somewhere that this individual has a job. Is that not true?
If he is capable of holding a job, why on earth should he not go get a job?
If he is not capable of holding a job, fine and dandy. But if he is capable of working, the fact he's weird does not in any way mean he should not work.
No. We're bothered by the fact that he's a worthless weirdo collecting government subsidies to breathe. If you can sustain yourself, I don't care if you call yourself the king of siam and wear a diaper everywhere you go. What bothers me (and the other posters on this thread) is my tax dollar subsidizing his worthless, fat, grotesque life.
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. . . What bothers me (and the other posters on this thread) is my tax dollar subsidizing his worthless, fat, grotesque life.
Almost true . . . what bothers me is the certainty that this waste of oxygen sucking up my tax dollars isn't alone. :mad:
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I'd made it through 41 years of life not knowing of the existence of this man and now unfortunately I do.
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The more victims, the more jobs for people who make a living--and a very good living--off victims. We have reached the stage where government is about and for parasites.
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Government is a parasite =(
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Government is a parasite =(
That is the problem with Govt charity. If he was getting private charity, the rug would be pulled out from under him ASAP. Govt Charity requires an "investigation" to stop what to me is obvious fraud.
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Is that beer in his bottle?
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Is that beer in his bottle?
He has to be on something stronger than beer.
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This thread pisses me off every single time I see it.
This is NOT the freaking reason SSI is around. This is NOT the sort of person that needs it. Those who are 100% unable to work due to all sorts of medical issues who are either too proud, too stubborn, or waited too long to submit the paperwork and are now facing a 2+ year wait for SSI have trouble making ends meet, and this COMPLETE waste of life stomps his widdle footies, dwinks fwom his widdle bottle, and says if we don't keep handing him money he'll kill himself? GOOD. STOP HANDING HIM MONEY - HE WON'T DO IT! Duh. It's a fairly standard little kid tactic. Let's think, now. He acts like a little kid, but is physically and mentally able to work. Doesn't want to work, threatened with (OUR!) money being taken away? "Do it and I'll kill myself! WAHHH!" ;/
Also, I doubt it's beer, probably apple juice or similar. Staged photo and all.
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It's also really hard to get off of SSI, if one recovers enough to start working again, or goes to school to learn to do something else than physical labor.
The gov has no process for such a thing, other than a lengthy review process. By then, the beneficiary will owe months or years of back payments that the gov just kept sending even after being informed of a change in status.
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...wait, seriously? I didn't realize one could be allowed on SSI if it wasn't a condition that were pretty much impossible to get better from. That's... odd. =|
Honestly, I hadn't even considered that side of the issue, as all those that I've talked to have issues that simply will not get better, chronically get worse, prognosis is grim, that sort of thing. Why, if it were a temporary condition, would they be granted SSI while there are people literally wasting away due to multiple conditions, medications, and can't even afford food if they could eat in the first place? ???
WHAT THE HECK. :mad:
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I am 100% disabled, in constant pain, can barely take care of myself and I had to fight for over a year and a half to get on Social Security Disability and am having to sue my long term disability insurance company who has denied my claim even though I paid for that coverage in good faith for over 6 years. Oh, I know ticked!
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It's a fairly standard little kid tactic. Let's think, now. He acts like a little kid, but is physically and mentally able to work. Doesn't want to work, threatened with (OUR!) money being taken away? "Do it and I'll kill myself! WAHHH!" ;/
It's also the standard 21st century drill for anyone who gains sudden notoriety through scandal. Hide in shame? No! Instead, the infamy is milked for fame and profit.
And why not? When we believe that shameful things can be a point of pride, when embraced as identity, why not so redeem all our weaknesses of character? What is there of which we must be ashamed?
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“You wanna test how damn serious I am about leaving this world, screw with my check that pays for this apartment and food. Try it. See how serious I am. I don’t care,” the California man said. “I have no problem killing myself. Take away the last thing keeping me here, and see what happens. Next time you see me on the news, it will be me in a body bag.”
Go right ahead, fool, go right ahead. I'll give you a Lorcin to do the deed.
I.... I'm not sure what the heck to say. Why is it that he's been on SSI for 10 years, when there are those in this country in desperate need who are waiting 2+ years for the same welfare?
You ought to see the welfare/disability/any gov't assistance fraud that goes on in my area...you really ought to.
Those who really need it can't get it...but those who don't seem to have no trouble getting on the dole. If we cut out fools like that...well, we'd have a much, much lower bill for "public assistance"...
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The only difference between this slob and half the under-30 generation is degree. He's just a more dramatic incarnation of a deeper, broader problem. He's certainly no anomaly.
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The only difference between this slob and half the under-30 generation is degree. He's just a more dramatic incarnation of a deeper, broader problem. He's certain no anomaly.
I'm thinking we may need the suicide watch for you. =|
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The only difference between this slob and half the under-30 generation is degree. He's just a more dramatic incarnation of a deeper, broader problem. He's certain no anomaly.
You can sneer at the under 30 generation. You have that luxury. We will be the ones to fix the over-30 generation's long term mistakes. Not out of choice, but due to probably not being able to pass the buck like the over-30 generation did. Because the institutions set up by the previous generations will likely fail during our lifespan and at our expense.
I don't see the next few decades being very kind to my generation. We'll survive. Folks always do.
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No, you're still a bunch of whining freeloaders, Longeyes said so.
Chris
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No, you're still a bunch of whining freeloaders, Longeyes said so.
Chris
Many are, yes. Loads more than there should be. Some of it is influenced by the rather poor and hideously expensive college system. Hands you a sub-par education and a crippling level of debt that can't be washed away by bankruptcy. For every whiney freeloader waving a Lenin sign (in 2011?!), there's a dozen kids working their tail off trying to keep their head above water with inflation of non-CPI items (non essentials like fuel and food) and wage stagnation, full well knowing things ain't getting any better for a LONG time.
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I don't even think "many" are, at least not the ones I tend to see at work or on the trails while biking. Maybe NoVA is too A-type...
Chris
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If you think I'm exempting the generation that parented the 30-somethings from censure you're wrong. There are plenty of great Americans left, of all ages, but I'm not saying anything that controversial in pointing out that a major chunk of America is "untethered."
We all like to point to our young military people as something to place our hopes in. Okay. But what percentage of our young people are serving or have served? It's small. We need to be realistic. I'm basing my remarks on conversations I've had with under-30s.
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You can sneer at the under 30 generation. You have that luxury. We will be the ones to fix the over-30 generation's long term mistakes. Not out of choice, but due to probably not being able to pass the buck like the over-30 generation did. Because the institutions set up by the previous generations will likely fail during our lifespan and at our expense.
I don't see the next few decades being very kind to my generation. We'll survive. Folks always do.
It was not my intention to promote inter-generational warfare. I'm well aware that whatever deficiencies I see in the under-30 crowd are largely the result of deficiencies in the over-30 crowd. I've put it this way in the past: When Americans stopped believing in God, they began worshipping their children. We live in romantic times; we've been living there since the '60s. No general population has ever had the great run the Baby Boomers have had; America in the last 60 years has been the best place to live for the average person ever in human history. Too bad more of us didn't reflect on the uniqueness of that and what it was really based on.
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If you think I'm exempting the generation that parented the 30-somethings from censure you're wrong. There are plenty of great Americans left, of all ages, but I'm not saying anything that controversial in pointing out that a major chunk of America is "untethered."
If that's all you were saying. When you say that an obvious freak like diaper-boy is representative of some broad swath of Americans, then it gets pretty controversial. Especially when you single out a particular age group.
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I'm going to throw up for saying this, I'm sure, but longeyes, fistful...... is right. :O
Now that you've elucidated your point it makes much more sense, especially this extremely well-thought-out line... "When Americans stopped believing in God, they began worshipping their children." That about sums up the problem.
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No, you're still a bunch of whining freeloaders, Longeyes said so.
Chris
I still identify myself as part of that "under 30" demographic rather than over 30... I'm 32.
I don't mean to initiate a pity-party for my generation, but this phrase is 100% spot-on:
It was not my intention to promote inter-generational warfare. I'm well aware that whatever deficiencies I see in the under-30 crowd are largely the result of deficiencies in the over-30 crowd. I've put it this way in the past: When Americans stopped believing in God, they began worshipping their children. We live in romantic times; we've been living there since the '60s. No general population has ever had the great run the Baby Boomers have had; America in the last 60 years has been the best place to live for the average person ever in human history. Too bad more of us didn't reflect on the uniqueness of that and what it was really based on.
When you are raised to adulthood to accept moral relativity as a virtue, it is hard to know how to safeguard anything. Especially a path to behavior that fosters dignity, self respect and responsibility, when those behaviors are actively discouraged.
Everyone calls the WWII generation the "Greatest Generation." Their exploits in saving the world from fascist totalitarianism and state-sponsored religious zealotry certainly deserve recognition, though they did financially enslave their subsequent generation to do so.
However, that subsequent generation birthed by the "Boom" has definitely earned the moniker of the "Worst Generation." This country went 170 years with an honorable intergenerational respect for our founding purposes. And then it was thrown out the window by the combination of FDR and LBJ bleeding-heart programs that enabled leeches like Jack Kerouac and his ilk to manufacture an entire generation of morally inept hippies, and Saul Alinsky to arm them with tools for political warfare to preserve and institutionalize that moral relativity.
We (the under-30's that are awake) are trying to find an anchor. Sometimes we're successful. Sometimes we're not.
There IS an intergenerational battle going on right now. It happens in my house when we get together as a family and wind up talking current events. It happens in tens of thousands of other homes similar to mine.
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I don't even think "many" are, at least not the ones I tend to see at work or on the trails while biking. Maybe NoVA is too A-type...
Chris
No, unfortunately, many. You're not as likely to run into such folks at a professional place of business or on trails, but they are around. I suspect every generation throughout history has had them. I have no idea what the statistical breakdown would be, however.
We all like to point to our young military people as something to place our hopes in. Okay. But what percentage of our young people are serving or have served? It's small. We need to be realistic. I'm basing my remarks on conversations I've had with under-30s.
I served with one of the few remaining soldiers to be drafted into the US Army. He commented, more than once, that today's military would have curb stomped the US Army of his day, even with equal weapons and equipment. Today's soldiers are a lot better educated, trained, professional, etc. From what he heard from his old-timers... What today's Army would have done to the US Army of WWII, again with equal weapons and equipment, would be described as unseemly in any polite discussion.
Obviously, I don't cotton to veterans being superior moral types. Knew plenty of scumbags to wear the uniform, including a handful that were enlisted. But, I'd always give a veteran a heck of a lot more consideration if I had to make a judgment blind.
Plenty of good kids out there, in or out of uniform. Plenty more that would be excellent if given the circumstances that allowed them to be.
It was not my intention to promote inter-generational warfare. I'm well aware that whatever deficiencies I see in the under-30 crowd are largely the result of deficiencies in the over-30 crowd. I've put it this way in the past: When Americans stopped believing in God, they began worshipping their children. We live in romantic times; we've been living there since the '60s. No general population has ever had the great run the Baby Boomers have had; America in the last 60 years has been the best place to live for the average person ever in human history. Too bad more of us didn't reflect on the uniqueness of that and what it was really based on.
*shrug* You may be right. I know plenty of folks that don't worship the Christian, Jewish and Islamic deity. Some were more moral than folks that very visibly fly the religious flag, some less.
Personally, my opinion is that religion isn't as important as another factor. Folks had it too easy for too long. Made 'em stupid and lazy, when it came to long term planning.
I came to this theory after talking to a senior executive of a place known for their mushroom, canned food, etc production. At the time, I was working for a company that sold single aircraft for up to a hundred million a pop. I was explaining various manufacturing process stupidity to him, and he shook his head, then said "Yep. High profit margins make ya stupid. You have a lot less incentive to make lots of little improvements, and they add up. Lean margins make ya hungry, and ya either smarten up or you're toast." It made a lot of sense. Obviously, I have no data to back it up, it's just a thought.
When life is good and prosperous, you're not planning 30 years down the pike or fighting tooth and nail to improve. You get mentally soft and indulgent. Great individuals, like great nations, are not founded on the soft, comfy pillow of prosperity. They are hammered into shape on the forge of adversity.
Everyone calls the WWII generation the "Greatest Generation." Their exploits in saving the world from fascist totalitarianism and state-sponsored religious zealotry certainly deserve recognition, though they did financially enslave their subsequent generation to do so.
However, that subsequent generation birthed by the "Boom" has definitely earned the moniker of the "Worst Generation." This country went 170 years with an honorable intergenerational respect for our founding purposes. And then it was thrown out the window by the combination of FDR and LBJ bleeding-heart programs that enabled leeches like Jack Kerouac and his ilk to manufacture an entire generation of morally inept hippies, and Saul Alinsky to arm them with tools for political warfare to preserve and institutionalize that moral relativity.
We (the under-30's that are awake) are trying to find an anchor. Sometimes we're successful. Sometimes we're not.
There IS an intergenerational battle going on right now. It happens in my house when we get together as a family and wind up talking current events. It happens in tens of thousands of other homes similar to mine.
Aye. Very astute, in my opinion. There really is an inter-generational battle going on. The bill of 70 years is coming due soon. With interest. No one group can be "blamed", it was a wide reaching effort on the behalf of many to get to today's situation.
AZRedhawk is correct. The under-30 crowd is searching for an anchor. That's basically how Obama got elected. He promised, in very clear language, that we needed to change our direction. Granted, he turned out to be Bush's third term instead of delivering on virtually any of his promises, but that's besides the fact. Every kid, awake or not, is aware we're getting handed an ugly situation that needs to change or we'll be smashed on the rocks.
Granted, not as many are bright and studious enough to do their homework when it comes to a cheap Chicago political hack, but a surprising amount are. The number of youth in the Tea Party are another perfect example. It's the unspoken expression that things are deeply, deeply wrong and need to be changed. How and what path to take is a bit more fuzzy, but that's always the case.
If we under 30's'ers (heh) do find our anchor, we WILL deeply change the United States. With respect, the status quo folks driving us off the cliff are soft and complacent. That's why we're in this situation. I have no idea what direction we will go, but again, if that anchor is found... Hell, it'll make an impression. I'd say just as much as nuking cities did on General Hideki Tojo.
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If that's all you were saying. When you say that an obvious freak like diaper-boy is representative of some broad swath of Americans, then it gets pretty controversial. Especially when you single out a particular age group.
I didn't mean it literally, I meant the tendency toward infantilism, promoted by our government and our culture.
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The under-30s have grown up surprisingly well. Every generation rebels against their parents, and the current one is, in many cases, rebelling against the excesses of the last generation. It's glorious.
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The only difference between this slob and half the under-30 generation is degree. He's just a more dramatic incarnation of a deeper, broader problem. He's certainly no anomaly.
it's not like there's a ton of jobs out there.
I think baby man is getting more than his share of posts on here. I hope he loses his SSI. He deserves to.
If it were up to me, I'd be a total hard ass about giving out SSI and I'd require you to get help and training to get off it and reup every few years. I don't think that's asking too much, right? We don't have welfare for most non-working people, so why should some minor disability get you lifetime benefits. I've got plates and screws in my leg from a car accident and I limp walking up stairs, but hey THAT'S LIFE, RIGHT?????
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why should some minor disability get you lifetime benefits
It should not. ;)
But employers don't want to hire anyone with a minor disability. They will hire somebody in a wheelchair to be their showcase person who doesn't do any work.
But it you have say - back problems, they don't want to have anything to do with you.
Of course I've also seen stores where men were expected to cut fabric, etc but the women always called one of the men when a customer needed 50lb bags of salt carried out ;/
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SteveT,
The problem is that in the current employment climate combined with this litigious society, people who have disabilities that require "heavy" medications, frequent stops to sit, trips to the restroom to vomit, etc., are marginalized. I've had a pretty much impossible time finding employment, and it's not for a lack of skills (two associate's degrees) or experience (I've held jobs as a gunsmith, tool and die room manager, apartment maintenance manager, copy center manager, grocery clerk, car salesman, gun store employee, jeweler, leatherworker, and more I can't remember this moment).
My interviews (a few times a month, mind you!) generally go like this...
Them: Well, you seem qualified for our company, but your credit check shows quite a bit of debt. What's the story with that?
Me: Oh, that's medical bills, which I've been paying off since about 2006, but I've not missed one single payment since I set up payment plans.
Them: Medical bills? This kind of credit score reflects at least a mid-five-digit debt.
Me: Yes, it does.
Them: Well, what kind of medical issues do you have?
Me: Things here and there, but they're mostly under control. I am able to work.
Them: I do need to know, since we offer insurance.
Me: I don't want to get insurance through my employer - never have, never want it.
Them: Uh-huh, but I still need to know for health and safety reasons.
Me: Okay, here's a brief overview.... [I fill him in with the details]
Them: Thanks for your time. We'll let you know.
And I never hear back. Ever. :(
The reason I'm mentioning this is that I usually get lumped in with the "about 30 years old, lazy, waste of space, leeching off society". It's frustrating, but even though I feel I can work, and I keep trying to get a job in many different fields, no one will hire me regardless of the fact I'll do skilled labor for minimum wage.
I guess what I'm saying is that sometimes the treatment for only a moderate disability can completely eclipse the possibility of gainful employment.
EDIT: Tallpine, you understand perfectly. Frustrating as hell, no? =|
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Tallpine, you understand perfectly. Frustrating as hell, no?
Yes.
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SteveT,
The problem is that in the current employment climate combined with this litigious society, people who have disabilities that require "heavy" medications, frequent stops to sit, trips to the restroom to vomit, etc., are marginalized. I've had a pretty much impossible time finding employment, and it's not for a lack of skills (two associate's degrees) or experience (I've held jobs as a gunsmith, tool and die room manager, apartment maintenance manager, copy center manager, grocery clerk, car salesman, gun store employee, jeweler, leatherworker, and more I can't remember this moment).
My interviews (a few times a month, mind you!) generally go like this...
Them: Well, you seem qualified for our company, but your credit check shows quite a bit of debt. What's the story with that?
Me: Oh, that's medical bills, which I've been paying off since about 2006, but I've not missed one single payment since I set up payment plans.
Them: Medical bills? This kind of credit score reflects at least a mid-five-digit debt.
Me: Yes, it does.
Them: Well, what kind of medical issues do you have?
Me: Things here and there, but they're mostly under control. I am able to work.
Them: I do need to know, since we offer insurance.
Me: I don't want to get insurance through my employer - never have, never want it.
Them: Uh-huh, but I still need to know for health and safety reasons.
Me: Okay, here's a brief overview.... [I fill him in with the details]
Them: Thanks for your time. We'll let you know.
And I never hear back. Ever. :(
The reason I'm mentioning this is that I usually get lumped in with the "about 30 years old, lazy, waste of space, leeching off society". It's frustrating, but even though I feel I can work, and I keep trying to get a job in many different fields, no one will hire me regardless of the fact I'll do skilled labor for minimum wage.
I guess what I'm saying is that sometimes the treatment for only a moderate disability can completely eclipse the possibility of gainful employment.
EDIT: Tallpine, you understand perfectly. Frustrating as hell, no? =|
Hmmm... I'm sorry if I'm not more understanding. I haven't had to look for a job in a long time.
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I'm not looking for understanding - just wanted to give everyone reading this another perspective as there might be issues they didn't think of. :)
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I'm not looking for understanding - just wanted to give everyone reading this another perspective as there might be issues they didn't think of. :)
1) I don't think the original subject of this thread should be getting disability benefits
2) I don't think that the feral goverment should be in the disability insurance business
3) I don't think that it's wrong for an individual in need to apply for benefits, especially after paying taxes for years, even if that individual ascribes to #2
Dong ma?
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Completely. :)
I entirely share your views on all three parts.
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"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching."
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MB, I know that you are aware that quote, in this context, is a strawman argument. =|
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MB, I know that you are aware that quote, in this context, is a strawman argument. =|
I do not believe tht the modern generation is in any way inferior to previous ones.
In fact I am not certain entire generations can even be evaluated in this manner.
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Generations don't come in chunks. They're continuous.
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SteveT,
The problem is that in the current employment climate combined with this litigious society, people who have disabilities that require "heavy" medications, frequent stops to sit, trips to the restroom to vomit, etc., are marginalized. I've had a pretty much impossible time finding employment, and it's not for a lack of skills (two associate's degrees) or experience (I've held jobs as a gunsmith, tool and die room manager, apartment maintenance manager, copy center manager, grocery clerk, car salesman, gun store employee, jeweler, leatherworker, and more I can't remember this moment).
My interviews (a few times a month, mind you!) generally go like this...
Them: Well, you seem qualified for our company, but your credit check shows quite a bit of debt. What's the story with that?
Me: Oh, that's medical bills, which I've been paying off since about 2006, but I've not missed one single payment since I set up payment plans.
Them: Medical bills? This kind of credit score reflects at least a mid-five-digit debt.
Me: Yes, it does.
Them: Well, what kind of medical issues do you have?
Me: Things here and there, but they're mostly under control. I am able to work.
Them: I do need to know, since we offer insurance.
Me: I don't want to get insurance through my employer - never have, never want it.
Them: Uh-huh, but I still need to know for health and safety reasons.
Me: Okay, here's a brief overview.... [I fill him in with the details]
Them: Thanks for your time. We'll let you know.
And I never hear back. Ever. :(
The reason I'm mentioning this is that I usually get lumped in with the "about 30 years old, lazy, waste of space, leeching off society". It's frustrating, but even though I feel I can work, and I keep trying to get a job in many different fields, no one will hire me regardless of the fact I'll do skilled labor for minimum wage.
I guess what I'm saying is that sometimes the treatment for only a moderate disability can completely eclipse the possibility of gainful employment.
EDIT: Tallpine, you understand perfectly. Frustrating as hell, no? =|
Sorry to copy and paste the same post twice but I thought of something.
I'm sure the under 30s ("lazy, waste of space, leeching off society"0 have similar stories to tell. Albeit for different reasons. When the job market sucks this kind of *expletive deleted*it happens.
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Good.God. I feel like I need a shower after reading that article.
FWIW, IronPort is throwing warnings about "baby-man's" website hosting malware.
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Sorry to copy and paste the same post twice but I thought of something.
I'm sure the under 30s ("lazy, waste of space, leeching off society") have similar stories to tell. Albeit for different reasons. When the job market sucks this kind of *expletive deleted* happens.
Did you really just equate those of us with genuine problems and reams of documentation to prove such with the "man" in the article? =|
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Did you really just equate those of us with genuine problems and reams of documentation to prove such with the "man" in the article? =|
That guy? Absolutely not.
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Just asking. I wouldn't have ragged on you for that opinion in either case, as it is the normal, mainstream perception. :)
Also, thanks for being civil - some folks (mostly on other forums, mind) don't seem to have that ability. I'm glad you stopped lurking and started posting more often, you seem to be adding quite a bit to the discussion.
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"The Earth is degenerating today. Bribery and corruption abound. Children no longer obey their parents, every man wants to write a book, and it is evident that the end of the world is fast approaching."
Unfortunately, the situation some of us rail against today is not exactly unprecedented, and, guess what, a lot of those previous jeremiads were indeed predictive of major cultural and historical shifts. Unconsidered pessimism is foolish; so is unconsidered optimism.
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Just asking. I wouldn't have ragged on you for that opinion in either case, as it is the normal, mainstream perception. :)
Also, thanks for being civil - some folks (mostly on other forums, mind) don't seem to have that ability. I'm glad you stopped lurking and started posting more often, you seem to be adding quite a bit to the discussion.
Thanks for the compliment.
I think with regards to your situation and the many others in your situation we have three choices. These three choices speak to a lot of our choices about everything else as well.
1. Employment is free market. Employers can discriminate against anyone for any reason. It's their money to spend.
2. Control that market. Discrimination against certain groups (hopefully not for ability, at least not yet) is illegal. Credit checks should be controlled. Only for financial and other fiduciary positions say. No discrimination against disability if you can do the job.
3. Just pay everyone who needs work and is ready, willing and able to work a sustenance salary until they find work.
In addition to any other consideration the problem with choice #2 and #3 is fraud. The cost of checking up on this is greater than the cost of just sending everyone a check. You'd almost need to assign everyone their own personal government minder.
So what happens is that the canard of disability, or so called "means testing" is created. What it really ends up being in reality is just the shutting up and warehousing of the loudest of our non-contributing members of society. Imagine the pain in the ass Baby-Man was to his minders before he was approved for SSI. How'd you like to spend years of your life as his social worker?
Reading about your interview process PTK, I personally feel for your situation. It sucks. If the employment situation in the US wasn't so FUBAR all of this would be a lot easier.
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I dunno....I'm starting to warm up to the idea. :laugh:
http://www.ineedamommy.com/main.htm
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Unfortunately, the situation some of us rail against today is not exactly unprecedented, and, guess what, a lot of those previous jeremiads were indeed predictive of major cultural and historical shifts. Unconsidered pessimism is foolish; so is unconsidered optimism.
Exactly. There have been more than enough "decline and falls" that such quotes ought to be prudential, not a jibe.
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Also, thanks for being civil - some folks (mostly on other forums, mind) don't seem to have that ability.
I'm glad you stopped lurking and started posting more often, you seem to be adding quite a bit to the discussion.
+1 I agree with both observations, P. (Can I call you "P"?) =D
DD
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Group hug!
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Kum by yah, my Lord... :-*
DD
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Not just another circus freak.
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/05/20/adult-baby-syndrome/