Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: MicroBalrog on July 13, 2011, 11:17:26 PM
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According to this here Russian website (http://www.вооружен.рф/news/103/721/), Senator Torshin, a prominent advocate of the legalization of pistols (currently illegal in Russia, he wants them to be available with a permit) together with some other pro-gun Russians, have met with the President of the NRA, who has promised to cooperate with Torshin and his associates via the exchange of expert advice. Torshin has also been invited to appear at an NRA event in St. Louis in 2012.
Here's a letter from the NRA to the good Senator.
(http://www.вооружен.рф/upload/medialibrary/91d/91d42075b050699917202f99b583a549.jpg)
I ain't sure what this all means.
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Maybe the NRA can get some of the old KGB files on Schumer, Obama, Pelosi, and the others in time for their next lobbying push?..... =D
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Background on Torshin's initiative (http://rt.com/politics/weapon-torshin-legalize-guns/)
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Maybe the NRA can get some of the old KGB files on Schumer, Obama, Pelosi, and the others in time for their next lobbying push?..... =D
Win.
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I gotta admit it would be nice to see more countries adopting more open gun laws.
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Maybe the NRA can get some of the old KGB files on Schumer, Obama, Pelosi, and the others in time for their next lobbying push?..... =D
Why would the KGB share personnel records of their own operatives with anyone? ???
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Why would the KGB share personnel records of their own operatives with anyone? ???
Cold hard cash, of course..... :cool:
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I ain't sure what this all means.
Me neither and I grew up reading cursive English. Hopefully he enclosed a typewritten copy of the letter to help the poor Russian out.
First few words I can make out..."Just a breit mote to (something something something) just (something) much I enjoyed..."
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Transcription
Just a brief note to let you know just how much I enjoyed our meeting in Pittsburgh during the NRA Annual Meetings.
As I indicated, you and your colleagues will receive a formal invitation to next year's meeting in St. Louis. (We're hoping fistful will be there, since he lives in the area. Wouldn't it be exciting to see fistful in person? What a great guy he is.) For planning purposes, you may want to note that it will be held on April 12-17th, 2012.
In the interim if there's anything any of us can do to help you in your endeavors there, please don't hesitate to let us know.
With all best wishes, I am [?]
Illegible Signature
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Well, the pistol-legalization bill is now in the Russian senate.
Current version is probably the result of multiple compromises, and as such is made of... well, let's see:
1. Pistols will be legal, limited to 300 joules muzzle energy and 1 pistol per person.
2. Age limit will be 23.
3. Permits to own said pistols will be only available to men who served in the Russian armed forces, thus excluding practically all women and almost anybody with a college degree of any kind.
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Well, the pistol-legalization bill is now in the Russian senate.
Current version is probably the result of multiple compromises, and as such is made of... well, let's see:
1. Pistols will be legal, limited to 300 joules muzzle energy and 1 pistol per person.
2. Age limit will be 23.
3. Permits to own said pistols will be only available to men who served in the Russian armed forces, thus excluding practically all women and almost anybody with a college degree of any kind.
It's still a start.
Mebbe with the establishment of Gunsite or Thunder Ranch Moscow, the military requirement will be waived in the future. =D
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There are, you know, several IPSC clubs in Moscow. I think they compete with these silly 'traumatic weapons'.
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1. Pistols will be legal, limited to 300 joules muzzle energy and 1 pistol per person.
~220ft-lbs. A good many .38Spl loads exceed that.
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There are, you know, several IPSC clubs in Moscow. I think they compete with these silly 'traumatic weapons'.
Russian IPSC has some real pistols in 9mm. They are severely limited in the choice of models, prices are sky-high, pistols have to be kept at the range and you have to show some level of participation in competition before you are considered a sportsman and can buy one. It's a rich man's obstacle course.
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Which is funny, because when I visited Moscow on a school trip in 1994, it took slightly less then 48 hours before I was offered a pistol. (note: I was 15 at the time)
Things might have changed in the almost 20 years since, but getting a firearm in either Moscow or St. Petersburg was trivially easy. They had gun checks at the clubs.
The whole thing was kinda wink-wink, nudge-nudge. As usual with gun Control, it only inconveniences the people that chose to play by the rules.
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Dear Sen. Jorshin
just a brief note to let you know just
how much I enjoyed our meeting in Pittsburg
during ___ NRA anual meeting.
As I understand, you and your colleagues
will recieve a formal invitation to next years meeting in St. Louis. For planning purposes,
you may want to note that It will be
held in April 12-17 2012.
In __ _____ if theirs ____
any of us can do to help you in your
endevers their, please don't hesitate
to let us know.
With all best wishes, I am.
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Will any carry of pistols be allowed?