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Title: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Doggy Daddy on September 06, 2011, 01:07:59 PM
Anyone know if this IHOP has a gunbuster sign?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/at-least-8-reportedly-shot-at-ihop-restaurant-in-nevada/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/at-least-8-reportedly-shot-at-ihop-restaurant-in-nevada/)
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 06, 2011, 01:26:22 PM
That is a tragedy. I hope the victims all have a full recovery. Having said that:

THIS IS ALL TEH OBAMA WILL NEED TO BAN HIGH-CAPACITY PANCAKES!
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Doggy Daddy on September 06, 2011, 01:29:19 PM
That is a tragedy. I hope the victims all have a full recovery.

I thoroughly agree.  I'm wondering, though, whether nobody was armed or if the shooter just caught everyone off guard.  This is Nevada.  We have shall issue and open carry.  He walked in with a rifle, after just having fired it right outside.

DD
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Doggy Daddy on September 06, 2011, 01:30:32 PM
THIS IS ALL TEH OBAMA WILL NEED TO BAN HIGH-CAPACITY PANCAKES!

And I think Obama is okay wit teh pancakes.  It's Michelle that would want to ban them.

DD
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: wmenorr67 on September 06, 2011, 01:32:35 PM
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Sheriff Kenny Furlong told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the suspect fired at restaurant customers before shooting himself. He said the shooter is not expected to survive, according to the newspaper.

If you want to kill yourself do so before shooting others.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 06, 2011, 04:08:06 PM
The above link has been updated. Two National Guard soldiers and one civilian died, in addition to the psycho. :mad: :'(
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Jamie B on September 06, 2011, 04:54:09 PM
My impression is that NV has always been a gun friendly state.

Sadly, it does not seem that the carrying or not carrying of guns seem to make a difference with incidents like this.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Doggy Daddy on September 06, 2011, 04:59:24 PM
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It wasn't immediately clear whether the gunman had any connection with the military or the Guard and authorities weren't saying whether the attack targeted the Guard members, who were meeting at the restaurant.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/at-least-8-reportedly-shot-at-ihop-restaurant-in-nevada/#ixzz1XCy0xkOC (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/at-least-8-reportedly-shot-at-ihop-restaurant-in-nevada/#ixzz1XCy0xkOC)

So they were meeting there.  Was this duty related?  Assuming so, I'm guessing they were in uniform and prohibited from carrying?  Correct?

DD
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Jamie B on September 06, 2011, 05:54:52 PM
DD-

I did see a news report that claims the shooter to be an ex-employee.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/national-guard-members-dead-ihop-rampage/story?id=14457713
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Doggy Daddy on September 06, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
DD-

I did see a news report that claims the shooter to be an ex-employee.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/national-guard-members-dead-ihop-rampage/story?id=14457713

Interesting.  Wonder how he lost his job.

DD
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Jamie B on September 06, 2011, 08:18:15 PM
Really, how does one fail at IHOP?

Drinking and partying, up late watching porn on interweb, late to work?

Who knows.

Sometimes pure trash is just trash.....
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Jamie B on September 06, 2011, 08:20:39 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/national-guard-members-dead-ihop-rampage/story?id=14457713

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"I saw people running into the casino and I saw people panicked so I panicked," he said."

Yea, that is always helpful.....

Updated information:
http://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-identifies-suspect-nevada-ihop-shooting-221500038.html
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Carson City Sheriff Kenny Furlong says the man was 32-year-old Eduardo Sencion of Carson City. He says Sencion worked at a family business in South Lake Tahoe, was not in the military, and had no known affiliations with anyone inside the restaurant.
Random, psychotic act of violence?
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Regolith on September 06, 2011, 10:20:44 PM
Random, psychotic act of violence?

His family has stated that he has a history of mental illness, so it's possible.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on September 06, 2011, 10:28:53 PM
His family has stated that he has a history of mental illness, so it's possible.

Here comes the mental health / medical records check associated to NICS that the dems want so badly...

And to the wishy-washy stoopid masses who don't understand the principle behind "who gets to decide what crazy is?", they'll see us all who oppose it as whackos.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Regolith on September 06, 2011, 11:12:23 PM
Here comes the mental health / medical records check associated to NICS that the dems want so badly...

And to the wishy-washy stoopid masses who don't understand the principle behind "who gets to decide what crazy is?", they'll see us all who oppose it as whackos.

I don't doubt they'll try it, but if they didn't get it after Jared Lee Loughner, they ain't getting it after this guy.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 07, 2011, 03:51:48 PM
So now three NG soldiers are dead, and one civilian. And for no discernible reason.

Also, if you read all the way through, I think you'll see that this person has a point
http://m.cjonline.com/blog-post/kevin-mcginty/2011-09-07/well-are-you-left-wingers-happy-now-your-violent-rhetoric-has-led
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Gowen on September 07, 2011, 04:10:44 PM
The local paper said the shooter was an agent for a south lake Tahoe grocery store.  I have no idea what "agent" means.  The family said he had mental issues.  A local news station played a clip of a witness saying it sounded like auto fire.  I seriously doubt that he had the money for a fully auto AK.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Tallpine on September 07, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
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I seriously doubt that he had the money for a fully auto AK.

You can buy them at any gun show for just a few bucks, doncha know ?

 ;/
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: AJ Dual on September 07, 2011, 04:22:26 PM
You can buy them at any gun show for just a few bucks, doncha know ?

 ;/

Or just file down the firing pin. "Everyone" knows that.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: sanglant on September 07, 2011, 05:36:32 PM
"agent for a south lake Tahoe grocery store" = bagger. =|
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Jamie B on September 08, 2011, 11:13:34 AM
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A local news station played a clip of a witness saying it sounded like auto fire.
That kind of garbage really irritates me.

He was either 'coached' for a nice news soundbite, or he was talking BS to enjoy his 15 minutes of fame.

Speaking the truth these days is a very infrequent occurrence in any venue.....
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: 230RN on September 08, 2011, 11:42:19 AM
Could have been bump-firing, I suppose.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 08, 2011, 12:16:25 PM
That kind of garbage really irritates me.

He was either 'coached' for a nice news soundbite, or he was talking BS to enjoy his 15 minutes of fame.

Speaking the truth these days is a very infrequent occurrence in any venue.....

Probably just Walter Mitty syndrome, like most guys who pretend to know the difference in the sound of a. 30-06 from that of a .45 Colt.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Tallpine on September 08, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Probably just Walter Mitty syndrome, like most guys who pretend to know the difference in the sound of a. 30-06 from that of a .45 Colt.

Judging by the wound, I would say that it was a 54R sniper rifle with a laser sight.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: Jamie B on September 08, 2011, 01:19:50 PM
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Probably just Walter Mitty syndrome, like most guys who pretend to know the difference in the sound of a. 30-06 from that of a .45 Colt.
No kidding!

"Damn, must have been a 50 cal."
"No, you idiot, it was a .22"
"Yea, well, it was a loud .22"

I have seen similar garbage happen.....
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: CNYCacher on September 08, 2011, 01:32:02 PM
Like 9/11 truthers focusing on ear-witnesses to the attacks who claim that the planes "sounded like a missile".  See, it was obviously a missile and not a plane.  because Joe-sixpack on the street knows what a missile sounds like flying overhead.
Title: Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
Post by: roo_ster on September 08, 2011, 03:02:54 PM
That is a tragedy. I hope the victims all have a full recovery. Having said that:

THIS IS ALL TEH OBAMA WILL NEED TO BAN HIGH-CAPACITY PANCAKES!

Short stacks for you, ten years!