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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Unisaw on October 20, 2011, 07:55:23 PM
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This landing is ridiculous. This pilot certainly hasn't forgotten how to hand fly the airplane!
http://youtu.be/YsZqN-uEgQU
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I love the computer....
"retard, retard"
:lol:
And this one is 100 times worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgZvb37NX0&feature=related
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Wouldn't it be better to install a cable set? Of course the undercarriage would need to be beefed up to cope with the stresses.
stay safe.
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I love the computer....
"retard, retard"
:lol:
And this one is 100 times worse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqgZvb37NX0&feature=related
That's the Airbus way. Specifically, the autothrust system telling us to pull the power to idle.
Looks fun.
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That's the Airbus way. Specifically, the autothrust system telling us to pull the power to idle.
Looks fun.
So even your own aiplane calls you a retard? Just sayin.
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I'm not a smart man,
Jenny Jamis.
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I'm not a smart man, Jenny Jamis.
:laugh:
4 days man, 4 days! Did you pre-order?
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Yes, for Xbox.
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Yowza! Bet you could get some cheap rent on the house jutting out from the point they flew around, at 500 feet no less) right before lining up. That might make the windows rattle a bit!
Brad
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Anyone here landed at Lukla?
That'd be some massive bragging rights.
I've got $9k left on my school loans and paying about $600 a month. After that is pilot's classes. What's involved in being cleared to fly internationally? It'd be fun to take a few weeks and fly around the north Pacific coast through Alaska to Japan, Okinawa, Singapore, Thailand, India, all the way up to Lukla. Go hiking for a bit, eat some granola on top of one of the peaks, then come back.
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Go hiking for a bit, eat some granola on top of one of the peaks, then come back.
Hippie alert! Hippie alert! :laugh:
Brad
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Hippie alert! Hippie alert! :laugh:
Brad
Nope. I said I was PAYING my school loans. :P
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AZ, from the US side you don't need to be cleared to fly internationally. Just file a DVFR flight plan and go. Other countries often have more restrictions, but I don't know much about the general aviation aspect. The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association does know about international flying. Get a membership with AOPA and they can give you lots of help. You might even find someone to go with you.
I think AOPA has a discussion forum. Flying Magazine might also.
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I'm betting he's thinking about renting aircraft in other countries to fly around.
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I'm betting he's thinking about renting aircraft in other countries to fly around.
Which is actually fairly easy to do.
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This landing is ridiculous. This pilot certainly hasn't forgotten how to hand fly the airplane!
http://youtu.be/YsZqN-uEgQU
It's just weird looking at a cockpit that has no stick and no wheel or yoke in front of either the pilot or the copilot. I don't think I ever want to fly one of those Airbus thingies ...
I'm a sports car racer. Looks to me like flying an Airbus would be like trying to drive an autocross in an Austin-Healy Sprite and steering with the parking brake handle.
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It's just weird looking at a cockpit that has no stick and no wheel or yoke in front of either the pilot or the copilot. I don't think I ever want to fly one of those Airbus thingies ...
??? Airbus has sidestick controllers, similar to the F-16. Not a big deal at all...
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??? Airbus has sidestick controllers, similar to the F-16. Not a big deal at all...
I find it much more comfortable and easy to fly. More room in front of me so I can stretch or cross my legs and the computers on the 'Bus do all of the trimming, so I just point the nose where I want it and the computers hold it there.
But in a gusty crosswind, the 'Bus sucks. There is no "feel" in the controls and it is easy to get into a self-induced oscillation by overcontrolling. You kind of have to use "The Force" in an Airbus and follow trust the plane to correct for the gusts. It isn't comforting, but it works.
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You kind of have to use "The Force" in an Airbus and follow trust the plane to correct for the gusts.
[Jedi hand wave] These are not the runways you were looking for... [/Jedi hand wave]
Brad
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I am a leaf on the wind.
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[Jedi hand wave] These are not the runways you were looking for... [/Jedi hand wave]
Brad
Go around!
:O
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Out of curiousity, how long does it take the engines to spool up to power after throttle up?
Brad
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Out of curiousity, how long does it take the engines to spool up to power after throttle up?
Brad
I believe this is a sensitive subject for Airbus, back when they put a plane into the trees at a European air show a few years back. If I recall correctly, this was the reason.
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Go around!
:O
Two of my favorite words!!!
>:D
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I believe this is a sensitive subject for Airbus, back when they put a plane into the trees at a European air show a few years back. If I recall correctly, this was the reason.
My understanding was that the computer said, MS Word PaperClip-like: "It looks like you're landing the plane. Now is not the time to increase the throttle setting." and over-rode the throttle input. ;/
It was a great landing except for the trees and lack of a runway.
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Out of curiousity, how long does it take the engines to spool up to power after throttle up?
Brad
8 to 10 seconds.
I believe this is a sensitive subject for Airbus, back when they put a plane into the trees at a European air show a few years back. If I recall correctly, this was the reason.
Not sensitive, other than embarassing. During my initial training on the Airbus, we discused the hows and whys of this crash. IIRC, the pilots executed a soft go-around instead of a hard go-around. In other words, they used half throttle instead of full throttle. The plane reacted/acted as it was programmed to do. There were other contributing factors, but the pilots were the primary cause.
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Still, it has to be annoying for the software to override the pilots like that. I wonder if there is a 'I really mean it' button you can press to override the software.
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Still, it has to be annoying for the software to override the pilots like that. I wonder if there is a 'I really mean it' button you can press to override the software.
Advancing the throttle will abort the landing. Are you sure?
[OK] [Cancel]
:lol:
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Still, it has to be annoying for the software to override the pilots like that. I wonder if there is a 'I really mean it' button you can press to override the software.
Yes, turn off the computers to put the plane in Direct Law. Then you can fly it like a normal plane.
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Yes, turn off the computers to put the plane in Direct Law. Then you can fly it like a normal plane.
I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.
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Yes, turn off the computers to put the plane in Direct Law. Then you can fly it like a normal plane.
Don't you mean you can fly it like a normal flight simulator?
Side stick actually strikes me as ergonomically good, but no feedback has to suck when things get delicate. IMO, even CG feedback would be better than nothing, but still not the same as really feeling what the airstream is doing on the ailerons and elevator.
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I am a leaf on the wind.
I see what you did there. :O
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Dust. Wind. Dude!
Brad
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Don't you mean you can fly it like a normal flight simulator?
Side stick actually strikes me as ergonomically good, but no feedback has to suck when things get delicate. IMO, even CG feedback would be better than nothing, but still not the same as really feeling what the airstream is doing on the ailerons and elevator.
Yeah, it isn't quite a real plane, even with the computers off, but it is as cloase as you can get in an Airbus. We still have to have a computer, electricity, and hydraulics to make it fly.
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We still have to have a computer, electricity, and hydraulics to make it fly.
I notice the word "pilot" didn't make your list. *snicker*
Brad
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I notice the word "pilot" didn't make your list. *snicker*
Brad
Nope. Those are optional. =D For now, all we need is programmer.
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Ha!
I went and visited Houston TRACON this morning by the way. Didn't hear a single pilot get called "retard". You must be special. :-*
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Extra special. I've heard "retard" five times in one landing.
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*grump* I want to be a retard, too. *grump*
Brad
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*grump* I want to be a retard, too. *grump*
Brad
Never go full retard.