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Title: typical perry?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 03, 2011, 01:17:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21z30aNO3cA
really?
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: roo_ster on November 03, 2011, 01:21:19 PM
I watched the first of 25 minutes and saw nothing remarkable.  Care to actually make a point or link to the bits of interest?
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Jamie B on November 03, 2011, 03:22:02 PM
I have seen cuts from this - Perry is either on a strange coke high, or he has been taking 'ludes at every other speech.

He acts like a 12 y/o girl, and it is quite strange.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Monkeyleg on November 03, 2011, 03:43:10 PM
I'm sure his handlers are trying to get him to be funnier and more "real". It reminds me of the makeover Gore got in 2000 that didn't work.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on November 03, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
I have seen cuts from this - Perry is either on a strange coke high, or he has been taking 'ludes at every other speech.
Tangential to this, I would love to see politicians getting regular drug tests.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: roo_ster on November 03, 2011, 07:26:39 PM
Tangential to this, I would love to see politicians getting regular drug tests beatings.

FTFY.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Jamie B on November 03, 2011, 07:34:21 PM
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Tangential to this, I would love to see politicians getting regular mind-numbing drugs drug tests beatings.

FTFY.
Oh no, Fixed That For You!
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 04, 2011, 12:06:14 AM
I would love to see politicians getting regular mind-numbing drugs

That seems to happen whenever a decent one gets to Washington.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Jamie B on November 04, 2011, 11:50:06 AM
Actually this "Drunken Speech" by Perry has saved Cain's bacon this week.

Folks are laughing so hard at Ricky that Herman is just sliding along, untouched!

Herman should send Ricky a nice Thank You note!
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: slingshot on November 04, 2011, 12:31:46 PM
My first reaction was this speech was really silly and a negative for a governor or candidate for president.  But, listened to it again and I feel the speech is actually pretty endearing in a positive way.  Perry just moved up a couple points in my book.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: longeyes on November 04, 2011, 12:53:05 PM
Perry has lost his audience.  He is still in the race only because it takes a while to spend down all that campaign money.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Jamie B on November 05, 2011, 02:42:05 PM
Perry has lost his audience.  He is still in the race only because it takes a while to spend down all that campaign money.
Bingoroonie!
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: slingshot on November 10, 2011, 09:26:46 PM
With the last debate slip up, I think he may well have lost his audience.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: seeker_two on November 10, 2011, 09:51:59 PM
This is typical Perry......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9BTPeZD40Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9BTPeZD40Q)

Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: HankB on November 10, 2011, 09:52:52 PM
Perry has lost his audience.  He is still in the race only because it takes a while to spend down all that campaign money.
Forget his debate performance - Perry lost the majority of the GOP base when he defended his boneheaded decision to sign a bill that gives illegal aliens preferential treatment over American citizens when it comes to college tuition in Texas.  :mad:
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Blakenzy on November 11, 2011, 01:44:27 AM
Painful...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLlT0fIqfek
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 11, 2011, 09:40:22 AM
Forget his debate performance - Perry lost the majority of the GOP base when he defended his boneheaded decision to sign a bill that gives illegal aliens preferential treatment over American citizens when it comes to college tuition in Texas.  :mad:

Oh, he could have defended it a dozen ways.  State's rights being numero uno that would resound fully with tea party voters.  Calling us all "heartless", though?  Eff him.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 11, 2011, 09:50:04 AM
illegal aliens preferential treatment over American citizens

when?  how?
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: longeyes on November 11, 2011, 10:55:46 AM
Losing one's audience is an actor's term, referring to a situation where people stop listening to you.  Yes, Perry lost his audience when he was identified with an unpopular program (illegal alien tuition).  After the recent debacle no one is going to trust him with "the football."  Fairly or unfairly he looks like a bumbler.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: MillCreek on November 11, 2011, 11:37:20 AM
I suspect this means that Romney has the nomination sewn up, assuming that no scandals or the like pop up for him.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 11, 2011, 12:03:59 PM
I suspect this means that Romney has the nomination sewn up, assuming that no scandals or the like pop up for him.

Not even close.

I'm still pulling for Paul, but I'm a dreamer.

I still think Cain has some significant potential in this race.  And Romney needs to beware it.  And we need to support it.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: roo_ster on November 11, 2011, 12:36:02 PM
illegal aliens preferential treatment over American citizens

when?  how?

Uh, that is the entire point to the matter, CSD.

Illegal aliens get to attend Texas state schools while paying only in-state Texas citizen tuition.  American citizens from outside of Texas, who are not Texas citizens) must pay out of state tuition.  That is giving an illegal alien preferential treatment over American citizens.

In addition to being a morally vile practice, it happens to be a violation of federal law if the state school takes any $$$from the federal taxpayers.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: roo_ster on November 11, 2011, 12:39:23 PM
Oh, he could have defended it a dozen ways.  State's rights being numero uno that would resound fully with tea party voters.  Calling us all "heartless", though?  Eff him.

He could claim state's rights if the Texas U system took no $$$ from the federales.

But, I agree, eff him for waxing dumbazz with the "heartless" mess.  Illegals were not barred from attending Texas state U schools (as they ought to be, IMO) before that law was passed.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: MillCreek on November 11, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
Not even close.

I'm still pulling for Paul, but I'm a dreamer.

I still think Cain has some significant potential in this race.  And Romney needs to beware it.  And we need to support it.

My opinion is that Mr. Cain may have suffered a fatal blow with the recent harassment allegations.  I will be interested to see if this is so.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: RocketMan on November 11, 2011, 01:43:41 PM
Most polls of late show the "generic" Republican candidate beating Obama by two or three points. However, when a specific Republican candidate is measured against him, Obama usually comes out on top by the same two or three points.  The best any R candidate does against Obama is Romney, generally with a tie.
Given the supposedly serious discontent with all things out of DC right now, why are the numbers not more lopsided in the R's favor?
The media will be trying their best to make the economy look better than it really is in the run-up Nov. 6, thereby boosting O's chances.  IMO, Obama stands a good chance of being re-elected.  I think we need to get our heads around that distasteful possibility.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: longeyes on November 11, 2011, 01:48:13 PM
What about Newt?  Yes, I know, I know, but...

I'd like to believe that given the momentousness of this coming Election we might get a January surprise of shock and awe.  Maybe Allen West decides to run...?  Something like that.

If it's Romney conservatives had better begin to muster its forces to shoulder this guy rightward.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 11, 2011, 02:10:26 PM
Uh, that is the entire point to the matter, CSD.

Illegal aliens get to attend Texas state schools while paying only in-state Texas citizen tuition.  American citizens from outside of Texas, who are not Texas citizens) must pay out of state tuition.  That is giving an illegal alien preferential treatment over American citizens.

In addition to being a morally vile practice, it happens to be a violation of federal law if the state school takes any $$$from the federal taxpayers.


If anyone moves to the state of Texas and spends three years there, they’re eligible for in-state tuition so no free ride,” Perry said.

Perry noted that the Texas legislature nearly unanimously passed the in-state tuition for illegal immigrants legislation in 2001.


how many years do i have to live there for in state tuition?  typically its one.  wheres that preference again?
he says realizing hes defending perry   shudder
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: roo_ster on November 11, 2011, 02:24:44 PM
If anyone moves to the state of Texas and spends three years there, they’re eligible for in-state tuition so no free ride,” Perry said.

Perry noted that the Texas legislature nearly unanimously passed the in-state tuition for illegal immigrants legislation in 2001.


how many years do i have to live there for in state tuition?  typically its one.  wheres that preference again?
he says realizing hes defending perry   shudder

CSD, you are smarter than that.

1. Illegals, no matter how long they live in Texas, are neither American nor Texas citizens.
2. Americans who move to Texas and live here more than a year are Texas citizens.
3. Documentation of that three years for illegals is, more than likely, held to the lower level of scrutiny the docs of most illegals get from most state officials, if experience is any guide.

And there is still the fact that this violates federal law, which requires that any tuition break given to illegal aliens must be give to out of state applicants.
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 11, 2011, 02:27:25 PM
if i moved here from another country legally how long would i have to live in texas to qualify as in state? assuming i remained a non us citizen?
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 11, 2011, 02:28:31 PM


And there is still the fact that this violates federal law, which requires that any tuition break given to illegal aliens must be give to out of state applicants.

Hold on:

There is a Federal Law, that:
-If you voluntarily claim to be an illegal alien;
-You prove that you are an illegal alien;
-You prove that you have been an illegal resident of a State for 3 years;

Stipulates you are to be given BENEFITS rather than picked up by ICE and thanked for providing all the documentation to toss your *expletive deleted*ss out of the country?

 ???


 ???


 ???


 :'(
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on November 11, 2011, 02:39:37 PM
And there is still the fact that this violates federal law, which requires that any tuition break given to illegal aliens must be give to out of state applicants

so if i come from outa state and live there for 3 years what rate do i pay?
Title: Re: typical perry?
Post by: TommyGunn on November 11, 2011, 07:34:08 PM
Most polls of late show the "generic" Republican candidate beating Obama by two or three points. However, when a specific Republican candidate is measured against him, Obama usually comes out on top by the same two or three points.  The best any R candidate does against Obama is Romney, generally with a tie.
Given the supposedly serious discontent with all things out of DC right now, why are the numbers not more lopsided in the R's favor?
The media will be trying their best to make the economy look better than it really is in the run-up Nov. 6, thereby boosting O's chances.  IMO, Obama stands a good chance of being re-elected.  I think we need to get our heads around that distasteful possibility.

A lot of polls exaggerate the number of liberals/democrats in their sample when they do polls.  These polls don't mean a whole heck of a lot right now anyway.