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Title: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: gunsmith on November 09, 2011, 01:01:17 AM
a friend down loaded an aduio book called citidel, I listened to part of the first book last yr-live free or die  ( sorry about my spelling I'm using a friends pc & she has no  spell check & no lights)
... what the heck is the johnasens virus? I cant remember & its driving me nuts.
I'm not a huge fan of audio books but-heck its free- I'm going to try to get some print versions someday-I'm totally enjoying the heck out of these books 
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: Matthew Carberry on November 09, 2011, 01:11:33 AM
From googling, no name but it makes blond women horny or something?
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: gunsmith on November 09, 2011, 01:15:32 AM
I tried google without much luck but I did get to read a few chapters of LF or D which was a treat...looking for a more succinct answer but I think you're on the right path
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: 280plus on November 09, 2011, 07:06:04 AM
Pete Best...

Oops, wrong Ringo.  :angel:
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: Ben on November 09, 2011, 08:00:37 AM
From googling, no name but it makes blond women any females of any species horny or something?

It's John Ringo, so I FTFY.
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: Jocassee on November 09, 2011, 09:20:34 AM
From googling, no name but it makes blond women horny or something?

Pretty much. It was an alien-induced virus that made all the blonde blue-eyed women extremely, erm, hormonally charged. In the book the aliens intended it to repopulate the earth with Scarlet Johansen look-alikes.
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: French G. on November 09, 2011, 09:24:11 AM
Pretty much. It was an alien-induced virus that made all the blonde blue-eyed women extremely, erm, hormonally charged. In the book the aliens intended it to repopulate the earth with Scarlet Johansen look-alikes.

I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords!
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: never_retreat on November 09, 2011, 09:28:29 AM
There is a town named after him next door to me.

The Ringo Family History Series reflects John Ringo, son of Philip Janszen Ringo, came to an indian cross road that is now Ringoes, NJ in about 1684. John Ringo was hiding out from some pirates who were after him for hijacking their ship with their loot. John Ringo died there in 1725. The rest of the descendants of Philip Janszen Ringo left New Amsterdam in 1701 and moved to the settlement at Assunpink Creek, now known as Trenton, where Philip Ringo, born 11-2-1682 started a grist milling business. He later moved to what is now known as Hunterdon County, where he continued his grist milling business and purchased a tavern in the village of Ringoes. His son, John Ringo operated the tavern. In 1774 a meeting of the Son's of Liberty" met at John Ringo's tavern where they wrote a petition to King George of England complaining of their treatment. Two years later America and England were at war. The American's won the war.The English lost their colony and stopped spending money in America. The Ringo family lost their farm, tavern and grist mill in a foeclosure by 1785. Almost all male members of the Ringo family served in the Revolutionary War and were given a 500 acre land grant in Kentucky. They all moved to Kentucky or Virginia.
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: MechAg94 on November 09, 2011, 09:31:11 AM
Supposedly, these aliens weren't too smart and the only people they came in contact with who were helpful to stealing Earth's resources were blond blue eye South Africans if I remember correctly.  I think they were after platinum and other heavy metals mined in Africa.  They thought they would kill off all the other humans and then "enhance" the re-population of the earth with humans that were helpful.

That trilogy was a fun read.  I hope he keeps it going a little while.  
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: erictank on November 09, 2011, 02:13:15 PM
a friend down loaded an aduio book called citidel, I listened to part of the first book last yr-live free or die  ( sorry about my spelling I'm using a friends pc & she has no  spell check & no lights)
... what the heck is the johnasens virus? I cant remember & its driving me nuts.
I'm not a huge fan of audio books but-heck its free- I'm going to try to get some print versions someday-I'm totally enjoying the heck out of these books 

Original (alien-created) version of the virus, named for the human doctor who discovered it and its effects, was lethal to all humans who weren't blond and induced a monthly mating season (think "going into heat") on humans who were blond - Ringo described it as giving females subject to heat as being like human teenage boys were all the time.  It also permitted additional fertilizations/implantations as a result of sex while pregnant, since the heat didn't stop during pregnancy, with lethal results for the woman in question since humans aren't designed to do that.

Mech's right, the Horvath (the aliens in question) wanted Earth's heavy/precious metals, and South Africa was one of the primary mining and pickup points for them.  The South Africans were cooperating, though under protest, while the US was where the primary resistance to Horvath occupation was centered, so the Horvath were willing to kill off 90% of Earth's population, including virtually all of the US, and use the rest to (rapidly) repopulate the planet as their slaves. They (the aliens) were not particularly smart, but were just a little ahead of us technologically, giving them the ability to invade and monitor our electronic systems at will, perform genetic engineering via tailored virii, and of course throw big rocks down the gravity well at us.  Humanity's response was made possible by a single man cornering the market on alien purchases (by the Glatun, who were further ahead of the Horvath than the Horvath were ahead of us) of... maple syrup.  Hilarity ensues.
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: Jocassee on November 09, 2011, 02:32:48 PM
Hilarity ensues.

The series was very well written, even if it does read like conservo-libertarian philosophical porn at times. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

The stuff I enjoy by Ringo I can blow through in one sitting. For some reason I didn't enjoy the Posleen series. The Citadel series was great and my other favorite is The Last Centurion, a modern-day parallel to the epic journey of Xenophon and his Greeks across Mesopotamia.

I won't say whether or not I've read the Ghost series.  ;/
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: geronimotwo on November 09, 2011, 04:01:49 PM
although the title was misleading, i enjoyed "there will be dragons", which i believe he co-authored.  summation: a high technology world that has its resources redirected such that the inhabitants end up in tribal wars with short swords and such.  no blonds in heat,  sorry.
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: MechAg94 on November 09, 2011, 11:24:06 PM
Well, there really wasn't much of anything in the way of sex in that book.  The interesting question at the beginning was that if alien traders showed up on Earth, what could we make or sell that they would want? 

I agree about Ringo's books.  I read those Citadel books in a couple days.  Hard to put down.  Some of David Drakes books are like that also.  The With the Lightnings books about Lt. Leary come to mind.  It is good and bad.  They are good books and I was happy to read them but the enjoyments seems way too short lived. 
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: HankB on November 10, 2011, 10:49:03 AM
Liked Ringo's Aldenata books, the first two Looking Glass novels were a good read (I think he phoned in #3), The Last Centurion was a pretty good read, Von Neuman's War was just OK, and I only read one Ghost book - that was enough.  His Empire of Man novels (written with David Weber) were generally good.  The Council Wars series started good, but began running out of steam by the end of the second book.

Reading Citadel right now - "thumbs up" so far.

Thanks to mention in his books, I found a youtube video music video of Winterborn by Cruxshadows - liked the music, though the singer has been appropriately (and unofficially) nicknamed "Darth Pineapple" for reasons that are immediately apparent.  ;)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVNjx4k8mWk

If you like Ringo, you owe it to yourself to take a look at the Heritage, Legacy, and Inheritance trilogies of Ian Douglas. (Best read in order.)
Title: Re: can someone answer a John Ringo question for me?
Post by: MechAg94 on November 10, 2011, 12:07:31 PM
I've read a number of those Ian Douglas books.  They are good reads with an interesting look at tech in the near future.

The only quirk on his books is all his "heroes" are either atheists or follow some alternative religion, and the crazy mob types are Christians.  He definitely has a negative view of the major religions.  I can overlook that, but the series you mentioned cover centuries and it would crop up every time he decribed what had been happening.  There were some other Govt Intrusion issues that were pretty scary by today's standards.  
http://www.amazon.com/Earth-Strike-Star-Carrier-Book/dp/0061840254/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
This is a newer series by him with 2 books so far that is pretty good.  A side story in this one is all evangelism was banned.  The tech and fighting stuff is pretty cool though.


http://www.amazon.com/Dauntless-Lost-Fleet-Book-1/dp/0441014186/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_4
Jack Campbell writes a good story also with less side story commentary.  The book covers have little to do with the stories.