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Title: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: Jamie B on December 15, 2011, 02:20:58 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-feds-arpaio-violated-civil-rights-164947314.html

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PHOENIX (AP) — The federal government issued a scathing report Thursday that outlines how Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office has committed a wide range of civil rights violations against Latinos, including a pattern of racial profiling and discrimination and carrying out heavy-handed immigration patrols based on racially charged citizen complaints.

The civil rights report said federal authorities will continue to investigate complaints of deputies using excessive force against Latinos, whether the sheriff's office failed to provide adequately police services in Hispanic communities and a large number of sex-crimes cases that were assigned to the agency but weren't followed up on or investigated at all.
No surprises here. Joe always loved the media attention. Be careful what you ask for...

CD, I am sure that this makes your day!  =D
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on December 15, 2011, 02:39:11 PM
Meh.

Obama and Napolitano hate Joe.  This is politically motivated.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: zxcvbob on December 15, 2011, 03:29:49 PM
"Scathing report" means nothing.  Either prosecute him, or get off the pot.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 15, 2011, 03:41:17 PM
state courts don't like him much either
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2011/12/joe_arpaio_racial_profiling_ca.php

http://immigrationmexicanamerican.blogspot.com/2011/04/arpaio-loses-district-court-judge-david.html


hes lost hundreds of suits in statecout

or tv shows
Improper clearance of MCSO cases

Reports show that, under Arpaio, the MCSO may be improperly clearing as many as 75% of cases without arrest or proper investigation.[49][50][51][dead link][52] The sheriff's office has failed to properly investigate serious crimes, including the rape of a 14 year old girl by classmates,[53][54] the rape of a 15 year old girl by two strangers,[55][56] and the rape of a 13 year old girl by her father.[55][57][dead link] These cases were "exceptionally cleared" without investigation or even identifying a suspect in one case which are not in accordance with the FBI standards for exceptional clearance.[55][58] The case of the 15 year old girl, the case was closed within one month and before DNA testing was even complete, the 13 year old's because her mother did not want to "to pursue this investigation," and the 14 year old's because a suspect declined to come in for questioning.[53][55] In a statement to ABC15, the Sheriff's Office claimed, "The Goldwater Institute’s report cites the FBI’s Uniform Code Reporting handbook, which is a voluntary crime-reporting program to compile statistical information and reports. The UCR is not intended for oversight on how law enforcement agencies clear cases...The Sheriff’s Office has its own criteria for clearing cases."[59]

In an interview on the ABC Nightline news program, when asked to explain why 82 percent of cases were declared cleared by exception, Arpaio said "We do clear a higher percentage of that. I know that. We clear many, many cases -- not 18 percent." Nightline contacted the MCSO after the interview and was told that of 7,346 crimes, only 944, or 15%, had been cleared by arrest.[60]


and look at how well it works!

In 1998, Arpaio commissioned a study, by Arizona State University criminal justice professor Marie L. Griffin, to examine recidivism rates based on conditions of confinement. Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those under his predecessor, the study found "there was no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989-1990 and those released in 1994-1995."[67]
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: Gowen on December 15, 2011, 03:42:06 PM
Meh.

Obama and Napolitano and C&SD hate Joe.  This is politically motivated.

Sorry, I had to fix it for ya.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 15, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
i am amazed  joe does this

On July 23, 2004 SWAT served a search warrant looking for "a stockpile of illegal automatic weapons and armor-piercing pistol ammunition" that they believed was hidden at an upscale home. In the course of serving the warrant, multiple tear gas cartridges were launched into the home. The result of which was the home catching fire. During the fire, SWAT forced the homeowner's 10-month-old pit bull puppy back into the home with a fire extinguisher, causing the dog's death. It was reported that the officers laughed over the incident. Also, the armored personnel carrier used during the assault ran over and damaged a neighbor's vehicle when its brakes failed. Police recovered two weapons; one antique shotgun; and one 9mm pistol. Both weapons are legal to own in Arizona. After failing to find illicit weapons the police served an arrest warrant for the owner who was also wanted on a misdemeanor warrant for failing to appear in Tempe Municipal Court on a couple of traffic citations.[


and gets backing from folks who would be talking tar feather and rails if anyone else did it. 

http://www.lyricstime.com/living-colour-cult-of-personality-lyrics.html
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on December 15, 2011, 03:52:12 PM
state courts don't like him much either
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2011/12/joe_arpaio_racial_profiling_ca.php

http://immigrationmexicanamerican.blogspot.com/2011/04/arpaio-loses-district-court-judge-david.html



And these are, of course, well-refereed bastions of journalistic integrity. ;/
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 15, 2011, 04:03:30 PM
feel free to refute those cases or any of the hundreds of other cases hes lost in state and federal court.  use as large type as you need too.  its quite effective
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: lee n. field on December 15, 2011, 04:10:56 PM
i am amazed  joe does this

On July 23, 2004 SWAT served a search warrant looking for "a stockpile of illegal automatic weapons and armor-piercing pistol ammunition" that they believed was hidden at an upscale home. In the course of serving the warrant, multiple tear gas cartridges were launched into the home. The result of which was the home catching fire. During the fire, SWAT forced the homeowner's 10-month-old pit bull puppy back into the home with a fire extinguisher, causing the dog's death. It was reported that the officers laughed over the incident. Also, the armored personnel carrier used during the assault ran over and damaged a neighbor's vehicle when its brakes failed. Police recovered two weapons; one antique shotgun; and one 9mm pistol. Both weapons are legal to own in Arizona. After failing to find illicit weapons the police served an arrest warrant for the owner who was also wanted on a misdemeanor warrant for failing to appear in Tempe Municipal Court on a couple of traffic citations.[

Waco standoff, in miniature.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 15, 2011, 04:19:32 PM
good analogy  just wonder what is it that makes the same folks who" zomg! the gun grabbing atf bastages!!" give joe so many mulligans
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: Tallpine on December 15, 2011, 05:31:00 PM
I never was much of a Joe fan ...

County jail is mostly where you hold folks for trial, not a place for torture and punishment and humiliation.  A work camp out in the desert for serving sentences might be all right though.

About ten years ago when I was staying in a hotel for work, I was pretty weirded out by their local Maricopa County Sheriff TV show   :O
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 15, 2011, 07:58:30 PM
i was once a fan. then reality once again slapped me straight
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: JonnyB on December 16, 2011, 09:08:19 AM
Joe's an asshat and should be fired, if not tossed in his own jail.

He's a grandstanding, civil-rights-bashing attention whore.

And yes, that's how I really feel.

jb
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: RevDisk on December 16, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
County jail is mostly where you hold folks for trial, not a place for torture and punishment and humiliation.  A work camp out in the desert for serving sentences might be all right though.

Buddy of mine served time there. Actually, the tent city is apparently more laid back and nicer than most prisons. According to the other inmates, also the easiest place to score drugs. No walls mean you can throw the drugs over the fence.

Very easy time, I'm told.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: longeyes on December 16, 2011, 12:33:14 PM
Regimes like Obama's bring out Joe Arpaios.

There are rational and legal ways to deal with the illegal immigration invasion, but when you have government that goes rogue on this issue you are going to end up with a certain number of renegades with badges. 

Anyone who seriously bucks The Invasion is going to end up, while the current types are in power, as de facto enemies of the state.  I don't think anyone is too surprised that the Feds finally came down on this troublesome rebel.  We can expect a lot more of this so long as Obama and his DOJ are around.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: mtnbkr on December 16, 2011, 12:34:32 PM
Regimes like Obama's bring out Joe Arpaios.

O Rly?  Care to point to any others that didn't exist well before Obama?

Chris
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: longeyes on December 16, 2011, 12:41:21 PM
No one said Obama's brand of tyranny was original.  What's your point?

Mine is that we have had a tacit policy of ignoring illegal immigration for at least 25 years, and that eventually people are going to react to the embrace of lawlessness, and, in fact over-react.  If the Federal Government--and this was as true under Clinton and Bush as it is under Obama--enforced the rule of law and obeyed the wishes of the American citizenry, we would not have guys like Arpaio playing fast and loose with his tactics.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 16, 2011, 01:35:51 PM
joes buffoonery and egomania predates obama a good bit
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: Tallpine on December 16, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
Buddy of mine served time there. Actually, the tent city is apparently more laid back and nicer than most prisons. According to the other inmates, also the easiest place to score drugs. No walls mean you can throw the drugs over the fence.

Very easy time, I'm told.

Cheap winter vacation ???
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: longeyes on December 16, 2011, 02:40:12 PM
joes buffoonery and egomania predates obama a good bit

No wonder; Bush was also weak on illegal immigration.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 16, 2011, 06:12:43 PM
keep going back.... and keep trying
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: HForrest on December 16, 2011, 06:59:09 PM
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Very easy time, I'm told.
Well, the tent city part of it might be that way, dunno.

I caught a segment of MSNBC's "Lockup" that was featuring an indoor section of the jail. There was a scene where multiple prisoners were gathered in a room, I think the cafeteria at meal time, seated at tables, followed by the jail's "Special Response Team" storming the area to conduct a surprise contraband search. I took particular issue with the method in which the SRT entered and 'gained compliance': They basically did a dynamic entry into the room with no warning, and immediately upon entry, fired an ALS Technologies "Bore Thunder" flashbang/distraction round out of a 12 gauge shotgun. Now, reportedly this round produces a "175-182db concussion" upon firing (typical .308 rifle being, what, 160db?). And they are in a fairly small, entirely enclosed room with flat metal and concrete surfaces. Clearly, exposure to blasts like that will cause permanent hearing loss and tinnitus.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhOv37gjEbE&lc, raid starts at 0:45)
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on December 16, 2011, 07:52:31 PM

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhOv37gjEbE&lc, raid starts at 0:45)
The SRT chick has more tats than the prisoners. I thought you were supposed to cover that stuff up in LE.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: MicroBalrog on December 16, 2011, 09:01:28 PM
The SRT chick has more tats than the prisoners. I thought you were supposed to cover that stuff up in LE.

You'd be surprised how many LE and military members have tattoos.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: longeyes on December 17, 2011, 01:30:26 PM
joes buffoonery and egomania predates obama a good bit

When it comes to buffoonery and egomania I'll put Clinton, Bush I and II, and Obama against Joe Arpaio anytime.  Too bad it doesn't stop there but rises to the level of outright treason.  The day will come when those who kept our borders open and defied the rule of law and the will of the American people will not be getting a pass for their betrayals.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on December 17, 2011, 04:13:56 PM
You'd be surprised how many LE and military members have tattoos.
True, but I was under the impression that they had to be covered up while you were in uniform.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: gunsmith on December 17, 2011, 04:47:15 PM
Lot's of folks don't like "Joe" but the attack seems political
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 17, 2011, 05:20:36 PM
Lot's of folks don't like "Joe" but the attack seems political

which of the literally hundreds of cases hes lost in federal and state courts are you referring to?  or maybe you refer to the hundreds that have been settled outa court?  are all of them political?
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: red headed stranger on December 17, 2011, 05:47:53 PM
Sorry, I had to fix it for ya.

Radley Balko hates Arpaio too.  That should make for some good cognitive dissonance for C&SD.  :D 

Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 17, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
Radley Balko hates Arpaio too.  That should make for some good cognitive dissonance for C&SD.  :D  



even a blind pig finds an acorn sometimes.
i don't hate him. i hate what the "system" he squatted and gave birth to does.  hes 80  he lost it and he need to go away

before more folks die preferably
http://www.arpaio.com/why-arpaios-gotta-go/2.php
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: gunsmith on December 18, 2011, 12:26:29 AM
which of the literally hundreds of cases hes lost in federal and state courts are you referring to?  or maybe you refer to the hundreds that have been settled outa court?  are all of them political?

The one I am referring to is the recent B.O admin political attack.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 18, 2011, 01:31:39 AM
the investigation leading to charges started pre obama i believe
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: longeyes on December 18, 2011, 03:43:05 PM
You keep repeating the same thing.  Arpaio exists because a lot of Americans are up to here with the tolerance and encouragement of illegal immigration and frankly don't care any more how it's stopped.  Arpaio wouldn't be doing what he's doing if we didn't have a confluence of forces in government and business determined to make the lawless lawful and to ignore what the American citizenry wants.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 18, 2011, 04:15:44 PM
  really?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/poll-numbers-suggest-gingrichs-humane-immigration-stance-could-help-him/

http://www.pollingreport.com/immigration.htm

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/poll-numbers-suggest-gingrichs-humane-immigration-stance-could-help-him/

Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: longeyes on December 18, 2011, 04:21:27 PM
Get out more.  Talk to people.  Illegal aliens are not viewed positively.
Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 18, 2011, 04:51:13 PM
ironic that

maybe expand your circle of friends?

joe might need to try that too
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2010/04/phoenix_police_chief_jack_harr.php

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/joe-arpaio-and-nazis-there-working-r

http://tucsoncitizen.com/three-sonorans/2011/01/30/video-neo-nazis-caught-with-explosives-jt-ready-warns-about-domestic-terrorism/

seems the people spoke here too

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/21/russell-pearce-recall-certified_n_1106233.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/arizona-recall-why-russell-pearce-lost/2011/11/09/gIQALj6a5M_blog.html


historic moment huh?

whats message do you hear there?



Title: Re: Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 18, 2011, 05:32:02 PM
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/related/to/Larry+Black/

lots more good news