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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: mtnbkr on December 16, 2011, 11:28:25 AM
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I've wanted one in 22lr since the 38 came out.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ruger-lcr-22-new-gun-review/
Chris
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Cool. I like the .38 version, though I could never really justify buying a third .38SP revolver.
A .22 OTOH ...... =D
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That's cool! I could be tempted myself, if for no other reason than I would practice A LOT more with a .22 version and maybe improve my ability with that platform. The .38 LCR is a great pocket gun, but frankly, shooting a box of factory .38s, or worse, +Ps, wears me out more than 100 rounds through my .44mag.
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I'm looking forward to it as a lightweight plinking gun I can toss in my daypack while I carry a larger gun on my hip. My Bearcat is a touch too heavy for that IMO. The LCR-22 is 10oz lighter than my Bearcat and carries 2 more shots. :D
I never bought the 38 version because I have a nice M37 that has been my CCW for years. However, the trigger on the LCR is about the nicest DA trigger I've come across.
Chris
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I've wanted one in 22lr since the 38 came out.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/ruger-lcr-22-new-gun-review/
Chris
Interesting. Wonder what else is in the queue. A longer barrel revolver on the LCR platform, perhaps?
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Meh.
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9mm would be very interesting........
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Put me on the "!WANT!" list....and for the 9mm version, too... :cool:
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why 9mm? You'd have 5, maybe 6 shots and it wouldn't be anymore potent than a good 38 or 357mag, which already exists. I think it overlaps the existing calibers too much and lacks the capacity that makes 9mm attractive.
Chris
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why 9mm? You'd have 5, maybe 6 shots and it wouldn't be anymore potent than a good 38 or 357mag, which already exists. I think it overlaps the existing calibers too much and lacks the capacity that makes 9mm attractive.
Chris
'Cause I can't get one now, dammit!
I would like a revolver that shares a common caliber with my auto.
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Perfect. I have been wanting to get my wife a small revolver in .38 along with a .22 that she can use for training.
This definitely tips the balance from M&P to LCR.
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9mm would be very interesting........
Taurus made a 9mm back aways. There is one in my "tool" chest. ;/
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Here is a listing on Gunbroker: Auction # 265312909 $459.00 + FFL and shipping. =(
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'Cause I can't get one now, dammit!
I would like a revolver that shares a common caliber with my auto.
+1 to both statements.....that, and I could use it for practice cheaper than I can get .38SPL ammo and still have similar recoil & performance....and it would make a good backup gun....esp. if it didn't need moon clips to operate....
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+1 to both statements.....that, and I could use it for practice cheaper than I can get .38SPL ammo and still have similar recoil & performance....and it would make a good backup gun....esp. if it didn't need moon clips to operate....
After seeing Jerry Miculek reload with full moon clips, I would consider them now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLk1v5bSFPw
Of course, Jerry shoots .45.
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After seeing Jerry Miculek reload with full moon clips, I would consider them now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLk1v5bSFPw
Of course, Jerry shoots .45.
If I could wear Jerry's rig as my CHL carry, I might consder it.....however, Texas says we still have to conceal our guns.... :facepalm:
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I'm looking forward to it as a lightweight plinking gun I can toss in my daypack while I carry a larger gun on my hip.
+1
Seems like the Bersa .22 will be staying in the drawer.
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The problem with "LCR as plinking/farm gun" for me is that I can't hit the broad side of a barn with a DAO snubby, and thus it's not really that useful.
When I can get an ultralight .22 revolver with a 4 inch barrel and single-action trigger, I will have something to displace the MKII.
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The problem with "LCR as plinking/farm gun" for me is that I can't hit the broad side of a barn with a DAO snubby, and thus it's not really that useful.
I can. I shoot nearly 100% DA with revolvers ranging from J-frame snubbies up to a Ruger Redhawk with hunting loads. All it takes is practice and a commitment to not use the SA crutch. That said, I made a decision about 12 years ago to not rely on SA with my DA revolvers. The first few months were ugly, but after a while, my trigger pull became smoother and my accuracy returned. Nowadays, I'm more accurate shooting DA than SA. The primary exception is my K38 which has Herrett Target Stocks. They're a bit awkward for DA use.
The LCR trigger is so light and smooth, I suspect it'll be an easy shooter. The front sight is pinned and there are already aftermarket replacements (Ashley Dot sight for example). That will make the sight picture better.
Chris
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I have been reading reports of folks getting these guns for prices in the low $400s. I thought they'd be at least $450 to start. I may end up with one sooner than I realized.
Chris
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The problem with "LCR as plinking/farm gun" for me is that I can't hit the broad side of a barn with a DAO snubby, and thus it's not really that useful.
When I can get an ultralight .22 revolver with a 4 inch barrel and single-action trigger, I will have something to displace the MKII.
Ruger Bearcat ???
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The Bearcat is 10oz heavier than the LCR 22. I have the Bearcat and will be adding the LCR 22 to my collection.
Chris
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if I ever have $ again I want one, I have been thinking about a lcr in .357 mag as a carry gun.
Some one on calguns I think mentioned "crimp jump" as a possible problem in a light frame .357 wheelgun with serious defense rounds-can anyone explain what that means?
seems like the lcr in .22lr is a great practice gun for the lcr in either .38/.357.
I want a Bearcat too, because they look awesome.
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if I ever have $ again I want one, I have been thinking about a lcr in .357 mag as a carry gun.
Some one on calguns I think mentioned "crimp jump" as a possible problem in a light frame .357 wheelgun with serious defense rounds-can anyone explain what that means?
Crimp jump is when the recoil of the gun causes a bullet to gradually unseat from the casing. This has, in some cases, led to a bullet sticking out of the cylinder and stopping the cylinder from turning. There have been documented instances of ultralight .357 handguns with full power loads with lead bullets having this problem. All of the documented cases I have seen have been with S&W scandium snubbies with full power 125gr Lead bullets. It results in the gun not being able to fire the 5th round.
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if I ever have $ again I want one, I have been thinking about a lcr in .357 mag as a carry gun.
Some one on calguns I think mentioned "crimp jump" as a possible problem in a light frame .357 wheelgun with serious defense rounds-can anyone explain what that means?
Crimp jump is when the bullet, due to inertial forces from the fird round, projects a bit farther out of the casing - it "jumps" the crimping that was supposed to hold it in place. Pretty much as RHS has described, but it can happen with any handgun and any load.
Loads that jump the crimp may not do so to a great extent on the next round in rotation, but by the time you work all the way around the cylinder you can end up jammed because the bullet projects too far out.1
The same thing can happen if you keep your top round in the magazine of a bottom-feeder, but regularly extract it and then reload by letting the slide go (like you are supposed to). One day it has too much OAL and will not chamber and you have a wonderful malfunction to try and clear.2
Easiest way to check for 1 is to shoot 5 and pull #6 and compare it to a round out of the box. If OAL is greater, you have crimp jump. Checking for 2 is easier - just compare your top round's OAL with one fresh out of the box.
"Curing" crimp jump can be done by, as counter-intuitive as it may seem, using a heavier bullet.
stay safe.
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I used to have a sp101 .357 that would stop rotating after a few dozen rounds-I thought it was simply dust or particles from the bullets & it would go away with a quick cleaning ( usually ) I would shoot mostly fed hydrashok at the time-was that crimp jump?
( man I wish I still had that gun )
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I used to have a sp101 .357 that would stop rotating after a few dozen rounds-I thought it was simply dust or particles from the bullets & it would go away with a quick cleaning ( usually ) I would shoot mostly fed hydrashok at the time-was that crimp jump?
( man I wish I still had that gun )
In that case, it is highly unlikely that it was crimp jump, as that typically happens with very lightweight guns, and not heavier all steel guns. Moreover, crimp jumping is a very intermittent problem even on gun/ammo combinations that are susceptible. From what you describe, I would suspect that your particular SP101 might have had too tight a tolerance between the cylinder and the forcing cone. When the tolerances are too tight there, the little bit of expansion of the metals due to heat, or the slightest amount of carbon fouling can result in the cylinder binding.
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In that case, it is highly unlikely that it was crimp jump, as that typically happens with very lightweight guns, and not heavier all steel guns. Moreover, crimp jumping is a very intermittent problem even on gun/ammo combinations that are susceptible. From what you describe, I would suspect that your particular SP101 might have had too tight a tolerance between the cylinder and the forcing cone. When the tolerances are too tight there, the little bit of expansion of the metals due to heat, or the slightest amount of carbon fouling can result in the cylinder binding.
My Security Six doesn't like waxed lead bullets but does fine with jacketed.
Sometimes a little slop isn't a bad thing.
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Ok, why does using a heavier bullet help crimp jump? It seems backward.
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My SP101 is one of my favorite weapons - very small, sturdy, and powerful.
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Ok, why does using a heavier bullet help crimp jump? It seems backward.
Agreed....esp. since the Airlite S&W .44SPL specifically limited bullets to 200gr. and less.....
my 396 AirLite Ti .44 Special clocked in at just 18 ounces...but boys and girls, the AirLites are a bitch to shoot. Plus, the. 44 Special are specifically marked for 200-grain or lighter bullets for fear of the heavy, super-fast recoil impulse causeing the bullet to jump the cripm and move forwward in the casing, locking the gun up.
http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2008/02/period-exclmation-point-on-concept-of.html (http://michaelbane.blogspot.com/2008/02/period-exclmation-point-on-concept-of.html)