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Title: That was exhilarating
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 29, 2011, 01:55:12 PM
At the childrens museum of Richmond and "misplaced" my 4 year old for about 5 mins. She was right where she was supposed to be the whole time. I just couldn't see her. She was within 20 feet till I started frantically searching. That was an educational moment


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Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Strings on December 29, 2011, 01:57:41 PM
I ever have children, they'll be lojacked...
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 29, 2011, 02:06:55 PM
Damn fine idea. How fast cam lojack process a find it right now request?   Much over 70 seconds is too long . My heart might not hold up


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Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Harold Tuttle on December 29, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
Find my iPod connected to a backpack mounted claxon FTW
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: mtnbkr on December 29, 2011, 02:21:47 PM
Low Tech Solution:
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Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: French G. on December 29, 2011, 02:26:33 PM
Only time I lost my kid was at home, I was in the garden, kid in the sandbox, 3 yeas old. I look up, no kid. My GSD, great historical protector of the family, was right next to me, looking for attention.  ;/ ;/ ;/  I freaked out a little, searched for 5 minutes, I have great line of sight, so covered a lot of ground. I finally found the kid, she had let herself back inside and was sitting in the good chair watching Dora, sand and all.  :facepalm:

I public I get evil stares because I'll let the kid get about 15 yards away without hovering over her. I don't have the heart to tell the old biddies that closely watched and within pistol shot is my personal standard.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on December 29, 2011, 02:41:47 PM
I ever have children, they'll be lojacked...

Word

And have a beeper like the cordless phone.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 29, 2011, 02:52:51 PM
Word

And have a beeper like the cordless phone.

What, no automatic pilot, return-to-base mechanism, that takes over their motor functions?
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: CNYCacher on December 29, 2011, 03:00:38 PM
Before cell phones got fancy, they got really really small and light.  Snag a 5-6 year old phone, the kind that just had the one-line lcd screen and that you could accessorize with replaceable covers, body panels and keypads and you can strip it right down to the battery and electronics.  Very small package that is fully functional as a phone.  Before you remove the keypad, program it to silent mode and also if you want auditory spying ability set it to auto-answer.  For $20 on ebay and $10/mo to activate you can have something not much larger than a domino that can be tracked by a cell company / police, and runs for 4-5 days on a battery charge.  Bonus: you can call it to listen in.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on December 29, 2011, 03:32:29 PM
What, no automatic pilot, return-to-base mechanism, that takes over their motor functions?

Still working on it, but the tech isn't 100% functional yet.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: vaskidmark on December 29, 2011, 03:50:42 PM
Umm, folks?  They sell these http://www.specialtyalarms.com/site/1313932/page/470306

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1.        Child Guard Monitor - Electronic Child Leash
Have you ever experienced the terror of thinking your child is missing or lost? We have all had the gut-wrenching feeling of turning around in a busy street and finding that our child is nowhere in sight. Now this could be prevented with the new improved Child Guard.
Item No. 30-210  Sale: $19.99 - regularly $26.99


just for this sort of situation.  Kid moves more than x feet away and everyone will be mopping up ear wax for the next few days, but you will surely know where your kid is.

Or a less-obvious style http://www.lightinthebox.com/Anti-theft---Anti-loss-Wireless-Security-Luggage-Alarm--TRA-237-_p97663.html

I am surprised and disappointed that none of the rest of you knew about this sort of gizmo.  My disappointment was slightly tempered by the suggestion of a leash.  The lack of mention of det cord, duct tape and/or lasers was appalling.

stay safe.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: dogmush on December 29, 2011, 04:00:45 PM
I public I get evil stares because I'll let the kid get about 15 yards away without hovering over her. I don't have the heart to tell the old biddies that closely watched and within pistol shot is my personal standard.

I do.

I was babysitting at a playground (no kids of my own) and had a little grandma berate me because the kid was 30 ft away "and if someone grabbed her you couldn't possibly get there in time!"  I smiled my best predatory smile and said "The bullet can."

Then she waited (about 20 ft away) till my friend came back (almost 45 min) and ran up to her stammering "Did you know that man has a g-g-gun around your child!"

My friend looked confused and said "Yeah, that's why he can babysit." Grandma's face was priceless.

Maybe its because I don't have kids, but I don't understand how someone would take responsibility for a little one in public and NOT have a weapon.  Just seems reckless to me.


ETA: Oh and CSD, from your stories....Were you worried about the girl, or the museum? =D
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: CNYCacher on December 29, 2011, 04:30:08 PM
My disappointment was slightly tempered by the suggestion of a leash.  The lack of mention of det cord, duct tape and/or lasers was appalling.

I'm not going to argue with their results in an academic sense, but on a personal level, I won't be adopting Spetsnaz-style kidnapper negotiation techniques when it comes to my own children.  M-AD via detcord child leash isn't that great of an idea.  Now if I was running a daycare that would be another thing.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: seeker_two on December 29, 2011, 04:53:30 PM
Low Tech Solution:
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I like that idea....but I'm not sure the wife would go for having our child attached to YoSafBridg.......
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 29, 2011, 05:34:40 PM
I was babysitting at a playground (no kids of my own) and had a little grandma berate me because the kid was 30 ft away "and if someone grabbed her you couldn't possibly get there in time!"  I smiled my best predatory smile and said "The bullet can."

This I don't quite understand. Sure, you could hit the bad guy from that far away, but your kid would also be downrange.  ???
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 29, 2011, 05:52:35 PM
DD. I was worries about the kid first then my liability if someone got hurt. It was a real heart stopper for a couple mins. I went predator for a short while. Took a while to mellow out. It would behoove me to watch myself when in that mode lest I do something felonious .
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Waitone on December 29, 2011, 08:06:43 PM
From personal experience I prefer the kid-on-a-leash method.  It is easier on the kid, more secure for me, and it gives busybodies a case of the vapors.   "how cruel, putting a child on a leash.  It is a child not a dog." 

OK lady (typically),  hold your arm over your head until I get tired and let you drop it.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 29, 2011, 10:01:53 PM
Low Tech Solution:
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That's the way we did it with ours and still do with the grands.
Get some funny looks and a few rude comments but a simple "go *expletive deleted*ck yourself" to the rude comments usually shuts them up.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 29, 2011, 10:08:45 PM
train kid to say f off
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: MicroBalrog on December 29, 2011, 10:17:44 PM
That's the way we did it with ours and still do with the grands.
Get some funny looks and a few rude comments but a simple "go *expletive deleted* yourself" to the rude comments usually shuts them up.

Seriously? I thought this was a joke picture.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: RevDisk on December 30, 2011, 10:23:01 AM
Seriously? I thought this was a joke picture.

No, works surprisingly well.  Except the little critters find entertainment in wrapping the leash around objects or legs.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: 41magsnub on December 30, 2011, 10:34:18 AM
The kid leash is a great thing when they are too young to understand they need to stay close.  It is better than a stroller, at least the kid is getting exercise.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Tuco on December 30, 2011, 12:08:17 PM
The gr'ups tried that leash crap with me back in '67 or '68.  
Wanting no part of their bizarre bondage fantasies, I sat on the floor of the grocery store and refused to budge.  
They tried dragging and I began screaming.
It was one of my few battlefield victories.

Shortly thereafter a dog was purchased to fulfill their need for a leashed companion.
I was returned to my locked chambers until I was needed for yard work.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Fitz on December 30, 2011, 12:23:48 PM
We use a leash that's connected to a fuzzy, plush puppy backpack. Brooke likes it because it has a puppy and she can run around.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: AJ Dual on December 30, 2011, 12:51:44 PM
We use a leash that's connected to a fuzzy, plush puppy backpack. Brooke likes it because it has a puppy and she can run around.

With our two sets of twins, we had tried those. They'd just run to the end of the leash and then clothesline themselves. Or they'd sit down and try to get us to drag them.

We just gave up on that and strapped them all into the quad stroller until they were all over 5 years old. 

It's still a problem at 6 and 7, they still run around wild, and the amount of yelling and smacking that actually gets them to listen for more than 5 minutes before doing it again tends to get you on the news, or talking to the cops these days.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on December 30, 2011, 02:18:47 PM
No, works surprisingly well.  Except the little critters find entertainment in wrapping the leash around objects or legs.

They can't possibly be worse then some dogs i've walked.

To be honest, I lile the idea of buzzers and lowjacks better.
If cows are better free range, then I would bet its good for kids too.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Tallpine on December 30, 2011, 05:06:33 PM
How about a shock "collar" (belt under clothes instead) that zaps the little one when he/she/undecided gets more than N feet from the parent controller ? >:D
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: vaskidmark on December 30, 2011, 05:10:41 PM
How about a shock "collar" (belt under clothes instead) that zaps the little one when he/she/undecided gets more than N feet from the parent controller ? >:D

Even I could make that adjustment once the connection to the siren was located and rerouted to the outside of the case.  A little slicon sealant to put the case back together and it's good to go.  Only issue would be deciding how long to let it go until I turned the zapping off - it'd teach the little rug rat not to stray!

stay safe.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: RoadKingLarry on December 30, 2011, 09:59:04 PM
How about a shock "collar" (belt under clothes instead) that zaps the little one when he/she/undecided gets more than N feet from the parent controller ? >:D

I was all for the shock/training collars for the little darlings but the wife vetoed it. She also vetoed the Hotshot as a substitute or spanking.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: French G. on December 30, 2011, 11:09:57 PM
After seeing how well invisible fencing works on the dog child I've suggested it, to a chilly reception, for the bipedal version. Seems it would be more effective than lectures on why it is dangerous to play in the street.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: roo_ster on December 31, 2011, 01:04:33 AM
It's still a problem at 6 and 7, they still run around wild, and the amount of yelling and smacking that actually gets them to listen for more than 5 minutes before doing it again tends to get you on the news, or talking to the cops these days.

"Why can't you control your children?"

"I can't believe he just spanked his child.  I'm calling 911!"

Even the best kids need to know what lines not to cross and that there are immediate and unpleasant consequences when they do so.  Sadly, our sorry excuse for a society makes that more difficult every day.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: KD5NRH on December 31, 2011, 01:26:58 AM
At the childrens museum of Richmond and "misplaced" my 4 year old for about 5 mins. She was right where she was supposed to be the whole time. I just couldn't see her. She was within 20 feet till I started frantically searching. That was an educational moment

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Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on December 31, 2011, 07:17:42 AM
My Kid would think the grenade was cool. "do it again !"
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: Tallpine on December 31, 2011, 10:52:21 AM
I was all for the shock/training collars for the little darlings but the wife vetoed it. She also vetoed the Hotshot as a substitute or spanking.

Women are so unreasonable sometimes  ;/
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on December 31, 2011, 02:00:52 PM
Women are so unreasonable sometimes  ;/

Not that unreasonable.

I mean, really, how often to trips to the er start with the statement "I triple dog dare you..."

Add in the means of eletricuting themselves andget double the er visits.
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: MillCreek on December 31, 2011, 02:13:14 PM
Not that unreasonable.

I mean, really, how often to trips to the er start with the statement "I triple dog dare you..."

Add in the means of eletricuting themselves andget double the er visits.

No, no, no.  A sizable chunk of trips to the ER start with 'hold my beer and watch this....."
Title: Re: That was exhilarating
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on December 31, 2011, 03:20:33 PM
No, no, no.  A sizable chunk of trips to the ER start with 'hold my beer and watch this....."

That's what "triple dog dare" is when it grows up.