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Title: Lets talk crapers
Post by: never_retreat on January 17, 2012, 03:08:42 PM
Getting ready to redo a bath and I need a good toilet.
I would really like to keep the ones from 1975 because I have NEVER stopped one up. But they are a really ugly yellow color.
So who makes the best can that doesn't cost a fortune, works, and does not have a v8 for turbo assist on it.

Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: HankB on January 17, 2012, 03:19:09 PM
Some years back I put in an American Standard "Champion" in one of my bathrooms . . . had a few minor issues initially the company replaced the internals under warranty it has worked well since. (Haven't needed a plunger yet.  ;) )

The Toto "Drake" is also supposed to be a good one.

Both of these have a larger-than-average-diameter waste passage and are less prone to clogging.

(BTW, yellow color or not, old toilets ARE in demand - I understand there's quite a thriving market for the "pre-low-flush" ones.)
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 17, 2012, 04:04:18 PM
A craper is what? Someone who makes crepes?

And god toilet, I don't even want to know what that is.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Harold Tuttle on January 17, 2012, 04:07:36 PM
the god toilet has a garbage disposal inline

Kittahs will quickly learn not to drink out of the toilet
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Tallpine on January 17, 2012, 04:21:25 PM
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god toilet

Well, I have heard of praying to the porcelain god  :lol:
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: AJ Dual on January 17, 2012, 05:41:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL2YRDzpTL4
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 17, 2012, 06:11:12 PM
the god toilet has a garbage disposal inline

Kittahs will quickly learn not to drink out of the toilet

When my son was a teenager I don't think that would have been enough even though we have old standard commodes. I was seriously tempted to ban him from the bathroom and make him dig a latrine down in the woods. As usual mama vetoed that plan.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: never_retreat on January 17, 2012, 07:43:28 PM
So 1 useful comment and 6 pieces of criticism. APS as usual.
This must me the newest version of the Champion.
http://www.americanstandard-us.com/bathroom-products/champion-4-toilet/ (http://www.americanstandard-us.com/bathroom-products/champion-4-toilet/)
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Meet the Champion® 4, the undisputed leader in high performance toilets. With the industry’s widest 2 3/8” trapway and 4” flush valve, it virtually eliminated clogged toilets for homeowners and call backs for plumbers. The Champion 4 will move a mass 70% larger than the industry standard. It achieves the highest bulk removal rating of 1,000 grams and will even flush a bucket of golf balls! Which means you can flush with confidence!
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 17, 2012, 07:46:18 PM
So 1 useful comment and 6 pieces of criticism. APS as usual.
This must me the newest version of the Champion.
http://www.americanstandard-us.com/bathroom-products/champion-4-toilet/ (http://www.americanstandard-us.com/bathroom-products/champion-4-toilet/)

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The Champion 4 will move a mass 70% larger than the industry standard.



Now that's a load of crap!
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on January 17, 2012, 07:49:00 PM
http://www.kohler.com/numi/
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: never_retreat on January 17, 2012, 08:22:48 PM
http://www.kohler.com/numi/
It looks like a bread maker and it 6 grand. let me see.... Nope
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 17, 2012, 08:23:39 PM
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The Champion 4 will move a mass 70% larger than the industry standard.

Oh great, now there's an industry standard for that, too. I guess I better make sure I measure up.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 17, 2012, 08:25:00 PM
http://www.kohler.com/numi/

OK, now that is just the best thing ever. Love the juxtaposition of the two beautiful people, their toilet, and their glass walls.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: wuluf on January 17, 2012, 08:26:54 PM
our plumber installed a Toto.  it works well, and I stop it up way less often than the low flow crappy crapper that preceded it. What can I say, I'm a productive guy....
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 17, 2012, 08:40:00 PM
wow  the music was over the top

i thought the one i installed was bad  it was 3 k
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: seeker_two on January 17, 2012, 09:13:28 PM
Another vote for American Standard here....in fact, I'm using one right now.....

Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 17, 2012, 09:24:39 PM
http://www.kohler.com/numi/

Why is it that there are some products that the advertising never shows in actual use?

And what kind of tard would put the crapper out in the open like that?
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: never_retreat on January 17, 2012, 09:29:32 PM
Another vote for American Standard here....in fact, I'm using one right now.....


Thats multi tasking.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: 230RN on January 17, 2012, 09:30:39 PM
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kohler.com%2Fnumi%2Fimages%2Fhalf_open_toilet_back.jpg&hash=4e09df61ea48bcd9d495d058d562c3aaf9fd2c22)


Hey, that looks like my drafting table!
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: CNYCacher on January 17, 2012, 10:10:41 PM
My parents installed one a few years back that has a pressure tank inside the rear tank.  When you take the lid off the back there's no water, just a plastic pressure tank inside.  It stores the line pressure from the water line and uses it to fire the flush water down the sides of the trap, sucking the water out of the bowl with a kind of venturi effect.  A little bit of water runs out from the rim of the bowl just for cleaning and to refill the bowl.  Sounds like some kind of jet engine and shakes the floor.  I think it could suck a  small child down.  Not sure the brand, etc.  Oh it also is ready for a follow-up in a few seconds.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: 230RN on January 18, 2012, 03:57:54 AM
My Apt managers installed a new water-saving ballcock valve in my crapper.

Gotta flush it twice, now.

Sometimes thrice.

It's at its maximum water level adjustment.

I feel sooooo good and noble now that I'm saving all that water.



Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: French G. on January 18, 2012, 06:11:15 AM
Find a good old construction rip-out from the pre 1.6 gallon days.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: HankB on January 18, 2012, 08:51:38 AM
Why is it that there are some products that the advertising never shows in actual use?

Sometimes a thread is best WITHOUT pictures - seriously. In fact, consider the following:

Another vote for American Standard here....in fact, I'm using one right now.....

And then there's this question . . .

And what kind of tard would put the crapper out in the open like that?
IT HAPPENS!

About 25 years back when I lived in MN, I toured an open house ($400k plus, which was a lot back then) where the MBR was on the 2nd floor. One corner was slightly "bumped out" and surrounded by floor-to-ceiling glass. A raised platform included a spa tub and . . . you guessed it, a porcelain throne. You'd climb up a couple of steps, turn around and sit . . . where you could look around and wave to your neighbors, face forward and talk to your spouse without even so much as a curtain in the way.

(Forget whether or not there was an exhaust fan.)   :facepalm:

I stayed there for about 20 minutes just to watch the reactions of other people when they walked in and saw the facilities.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: roo_ster on January 18, 2012, 10:41:36 AM
http://www.kohler.com/numi/images/half_open_toilet_back.jpg


Hey, that looks like my drafting table!

Are you telling us something about your drafting skills?

Oh great, now there's an industry standard for that, too. I guess I better make sure I measure up.

What with the heavy cabbage and beet consumption, the Russkies (toward the end of the COld War) had opened up a crap gap with the USA.

Find a good old construction rip-out from the pre 1.6 gallon days.

This.  The only toilet clog I have had wiht my old-school old-stool 3.5gal flush toilet was when a child tried to flush a bottle of shampoo.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 18, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Find a good old construction rip-out from the pre 1.6 gallon days.

I ripped out a good many of those, rehabbing apartments. Unfortunately, they only came in pink and blue.  =|
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Boomhauer on January 18, 2012, 09:20:19 PM
I've got white pre-ban toilets...and I'm not giving them up!


What you need, friend, is a Sloan valve toilet like they use in commercial facilities. I don't think I ever did have to plunge one of those...
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: never_retreat on January 18, 2012, 09:47:00 PM
What you need, friend, is a Sloan valve toilet like they use in commercial facilities. I don't think I ever did have to plunge one of those...
I really don't want to listen to one of those things in my house in the middle of the night.

If anyone wants one of my yellow pre-ban cans send me a UPS label and you can have it. I promises no extras included.
I heard a roomer they have real cans in Canada. Anyone know if this is true? If so I see a road trip in the future.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: TechMan on January 18, 2012, 10:13:28 PM
I really don't want to listen to one of those things in my house in the middle of the night.

If anyone wants one of my yellow pre-ban cans send me a UPS label and you can have it. I promises no extras included.
I heard a roomer they have real cans in Canada. Anyone know if this is true? If so I see a road trip in the future.


Very old article (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,996507,00.html)

Check out Home Depot Canada (http://www.homedepot.ca/catalog/toilets/173219) it appears that Canada has the same 1.6 GPF requirements.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 19, 2012, 01:31:09 AM
Find a good old construction rip-out from the pre 1.6 gallon days.

^^^ This.

See if you can find an old American Standard Cadet.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 19, 2012, 01:39:19 AM
What you need, friend, is a Sloan valve toilet like they use in commercial facilities. I don't think I ever did have to plunge one of those...

I've plunged out a few of those. Snaked a few more. The residential toilets are more complicated, but still easier to work on.
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Blakenzy on January 19, 2012, 04:22:42 AM
H2Option Siphonic Dual Flush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZeSxGYCDTk&feature=related
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Sawdust on January 19, 2012, 12:47:59 PM
I've replaced all of my toilets with Toto.

I can think of only one clog since; that's truly a miracle, consideirng how Mrs. Sawdust would regularly clog the old multi-gallon toliets with all of the paper products that we would carpet bomb with each session.

Sawdust
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Boomhauer on January 25, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
I've plunged out a few of those. Snaked a few more. The residential toilets are more complicated, but still easier to work on.

Our Redneck Hell campers who loved to destroy a bathroom...couldn't clog ours.

So instead they'd take a hammer and smash them.



Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Northwoods on January 25, 2012, 09:50:12 PM
I CANNOT believe that this has not been posted yet.  We're already on the second page.  Y'all disapoint me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VifAHQFLVVE
Title: Re: Lets talk crapers
Post by: Perd Hapley on January 25, 2012, 10:57:23 PM
A perennial classic. Victoria Jackson FTW.