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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: wmenorr67 on January 19, 2012, 09:39:27 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/19/perry-to-drop-out-gop-presidential-race/
Wow, is it going to come down to a two man race of Paul and Romney this quick?
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/19/perry-to-drop-out-gop-presidential-race/
Wow, is it going to come down to a two man race of Paul and Romney this quick?
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Yes, THAT's what Perry dropping out signifies.
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Maybe we can propose to Ron Paul that when he wins the nomination that he picks Fred Thompson as his VP. I think that would be a very formidable ticket that would win voters from all walks of life.
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Well, do we want a man who can't remember the names of three agencies? :angel:
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Well, do we want a man who can't remember the names of three agencies? :angel:
Better than the one who thinks there are 57 states.
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Better than the one who thinks there are 57 states.
We need to get people to understand what Obama actually said, which was that he'd been to 57 states, with one more to go, and that his handlers wouldn't let him to go Hawaii or Alaska. So, he thinks there's 60 states.
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We need to get people to understand what Obama actually said, which was that he'd been to 57 states, with one more to go, and that his handlers wouldn't let him to go Hawaii or Alaska. So, he thinks there's 60 states.
I think it's quite clear he misspoke and meant to say 47. He's a lot of things, but only the most partisan actually believe he actually thinks there are more than 50 states. There's enough to criticize him for without jumping on an honest flub like that.
That's the sort of things liberals do (see GWB for examples).
Chris
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I think it's quite clear he misspoke and meant to say 47. He's a lot of things, but only the most partisan actually believe he actually thinks there are more than 50 states. There's enough to criticize him for without jumping on an honest flub like that.
That's the sort of things liberals do (see GWB for examples).
Chris
Is there someone who doesn't think that?
He also talked about all the states between Illinois and Kentucky or something like that. Obama has had almost as many gaffes as Biden. The press just is not interested in reporting any of it.
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With the way people bring it us as evidence of some sort, I was beginning to wonder. Flogging gaffes are weaksauce no matter who makes them.
Chris
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Perry came out of the gate hot, saying all the right tea party kind of things and hitting Obama hard. But, he proved to be much ado about nothing.
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I think it's quite clear he misspoke and meant to say 47. He's a lot of things, but only the most partisan actually believe he actually thinks there are more than 50 states. There's enough to criticize him for without jumping on an honest flub like that.
That's the sort of things liberals do (see GWB for examples).
Chris
No, he said what he meant...... :O
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I think it's quite clear he misspoke and meant to say 47. He's a lot of things, but only the most partisan actually believe he actually thinks there are more than 50 states. There's enough to criticize him for without jumping on an honest flub like that.
That's the sort of things liberals do (see GWB for examples).
Chris
Yes it is.
Playing nice with liberals obviously doesn't work. If they will not assume good faith and intellect from conservatives, they have no right to expect those assumptions back.
Thus, for every Obama zombia/GWB deranged, I will highlight their hypocrisy right back to them.
"Make your enemy live up to their own rulebook." Time the left's tactics were used on the left.
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Not really. It just makes the accuser look stupid and petulant.
Just like it does to liberals.
Chris
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So if I say "Obama said the US has 57 states," I'm being stupid and petulant? How does this work? Does Obama take a powder in this because he's wrong, or does he get a free pass because of the color thing?
...but only the most partisan actually believe he actually thinks there are more than 50 states.
I don't have any idea what he's THINKING, I can't read his mind. I can only go by what he said.
Seems fair enough to me. :angel: ..... all things considered......
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Remember GHWB citing 7 September as Pearl Harbor day in a speech? It was a simple gaffe/brainfart. Was he a doofus in all other respects because of it? There are plenty of substantive issues on which to criticize.
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Remember GHWB citing 7 September as Pearl Harbor day in a speech? It was a simple gaffe/brainfart. Was he a doofus in all other respects because of it? There are plenty of substantive issues on which to criticize.
I don't believe Obama to be a doofus because of his mis-speakings, just as I didn't believe President Bush to be a doofus because of his mis-speakings.
However, many people did. Those same people, dispite similar mis-speakings by President Obama believe him to be god incarnate. (I left that purposely uncapitalized.) I use instances like this to point out the hypocrisy and MAYBE make them see their illogic. I don't bring up Obama's muffed phrases or words except to his acolytes.
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The debates have proven little except that the GOP is either afraid of or in cahoots with Big Media (or both). Who in his right mind would permit a left-leaning media establishment to orchestrate the choosing of the Republican candidate? We should have demanded that Obama be interviewed at length by a panel of conservative journalists and pundits in exchange if we were going to play the American Idol game at all. The whole thing is a travesty. It won't be long now before it comes down to Romney and Paul, and that means Romney.
If there were ever a time for Sarah Palin, Allen West, Marco Rubio, or the equivalent to ride in, it's now. It's time to change the rules before the rules change us and the nation forever.
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I don't believe Obama to be a doofus because of his mis-speakings, just as I didn't believe President Bush to be a doofus because of his mis-speakings.
However, many people did. Those same people, dispite similar mis-speakings by President Obama believe him to be god incarnate. (I left that purposely uncapitalized.) I use instances like this to point out the hypocrisy and MAYBE make them see their illogic. I don't bring up Obama's muffed phrases or words except to his acolytes.
No, you're essentially playing a slightly different version of "he started it," and it's as retarded when we do it as it is when they do it.
There's plenty of reasons to criticize our opponents. We don't need to manufacture them
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The debates have proven little except that the GOP is either afraid of or in cahoots with Big Media (or both). Who in his right mind would permit a left-leaning media establishment to orchestrate the choosing of the Republican candidate? We should have demanded that Obama be interviewed at length by a panel of conservative journalists and pundits in exchange if we were going to play the American Idol game at all. The whole thing is a travesty. It won't be long now before it comes down to Romney and Paul, and that means Romney.
If there were ever a time for Sarah Palin, Allen West, Marco Rubio, or the equivalent to ride in, it's now. It's time to change the rules before the rules change us and the nation forever.
Rubio, the freedom lover!
Oh ... i mean, Rubio , one of the architects of one of the most godawful pieces of legislation ever.
Yeah. People like him and Palin are the ones we should hope for. ;/
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Rubio, the freedom lover!
Oh ... i mean, Rubio , one of the architects of one of the most godawful pieces of legislation ever.
Yeah. People like him and Palin are the ones we should hope for. ;/
Rubio has withdrawn his support for SOPA and PIPA, as you know.
Better Palin than Obama.
But perhaps you have better prospects?
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Not really. It just makes the accuser look stupid and petulant.
Just like it does to liberals.
Chris
That really only works when the 3rd party observers (aka voters) understand who is being stupid and petulant and has the moral and ethical standing to act (vote) against it. When those observers are either the S&P themselves, apathetic to the events, or simply too slow witted/brain washed to understand and act accordingly, then the distinction becomes irrelevant and you remain with the choice of maintaining the higher moral and ethical standing, and still being brow-beaten with the low tactics and losing, or adopting the low tactics yourself.
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Remember GHWB citing 7 September as Pearl Harbor day in a speech? It was a simple gaffe/brainfart. Was he a doofus in all other respects because of it? There are plenty of substantive issues on which to criticize.
Sure I do. And do you know why? Because the media wouldn't let go of it. We've been over this a million times: there are different standards applied by the media to conservatives than there are to liberals, and there are very different standards applied to Obama. Those include glossing over criminal actions, which really steams me.
As for him really thinking there are 60 states, no, I don't think he does. If he was the product of public schools, I'd consider the possibility.
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Crap.....now he's gonna come back & be our governor again..... :facepalm:
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I saw a busload of coyotes heading for the border.
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Rubio has withdrawn his support for SOPA and PIPA, as you know.
Better Palin than Obama.
But perhaps you have better prospects?
Rubio only withdrew his support because he realized he couldn't help sneak this freedom hating legislation into law.
Guess what: the "anybody but obama" idea is just as damaging as Obama. The idea that some would hold their noses and vote for someone who they didn't like is appalling
To tell you the truth, i'm starting to think 4 more years of obama will be a good thing. It will either force the GOP (and conservative idiots around the country) to actually start nominating REAL conservatives, or it will bring us closer to the collapse, where we can get a *expletive deleted*ing do-over.
"Better palin than obama."
Lol.
"I'd rather get kicked in the balls than the face!"
LOL
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Perry was toast as soon as he defended his idiotic action of signing legislation that gives preferential treatment to ILLEGAL ALIENS over Americans; ever since that day, his campaign theme was "Dead Man Walking."
Guess what: the "anybody but obama" idea is just as damaging as Obama. The idea that some would hold their noses and vote for someone who they didn't like is appalling.
I think it's appalling that a nation that gave us men like Thomas Jefferson and Theodore Roosevelt as POTUS (when we were much smaller!) can't muster anything better than the current crop today. In fact, ever since I've been voting, I've only cast a positive ballot ONE time for POTUS, and that was for Reagan's first term. Every other time - every other time - I voted against someone rather than for someone.
I don't like it - I don't like it one bit. But when the only alternatives are bad, you unhappily choose the one that's less bad.
Pay taxes - bad. Go to jail - worse. I hate my pocket being picked for things that don't benefit me, even indirectly . . . but Club Fed as an alternative? Uh uh.
Romney/Gingrich/Whoever - not so good. Obama - horribly worse. BHO may be the first POTUS that actually doesn't like America, it's traditions, or its institutions.
If you can realistically suggest a GOOD alternative to holding my nose and voting for someone other than Obama, please do so.
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I'm starting to drift toward the "let it all come crashing down and start the hell over" crowd.
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Politics, as you've heard, is the art of the possible.
Obama is not an option for anyone who values liberty. There are no perfect candidates on the GOP side but none offer the jeopardy to this nation that a second Obama term would.
I may be too pessimistic, but my view is that another Obama term will not bring forth "real conservatives" but rather spell the end of not only the GOP as an effective opposition party but any semblance of America as a Constitution-driven polity. We need to work with what we have while we have it.
If you've read my posts in the past you know that I expect not only collapse but the prospect of a serious secessionist movement in America. This will happen regardless of who's elected this November, but predicting secession is not predicting sweetness and light, it is predicting bloody disorder given the fact that there is no way that patriotic and productive Americans are going to be permitted to go their own way by the American Left.
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I'm starting to drift toward the "let it all come crashing down and start the hell over" crowd.
If it wasn't for the whole SCOTUS thing I would be in agreement. But it is a very real possibility that the next four years could see 3-4 Justices retire if they don't die on the bench. Do you really want Obama picking them?
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Perry was toast as soon as he defended his idiotic action of signing legislation that gives preferential treatment to ILLEGAL ALIENS over Americans; ever since that day, his campaign theme was "Dead Man Walking."
This.
Also, the way he defended it was beyond the pale.
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This.
Also, the way he defended it was beyond the pale.
Yep. He could have actually turned it into a win. States right issue, GFY. Ya know. But "compassionate" conservatisim is GWB all over again, and nobody wants that *expletive deleted*it. I was a tenative supporter when he came out. Calling me heartless made me turn on him like a beaten pit bull.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21z30aNO3cA
I'm still trying to figure out who he was channeling during his infamous New Hampshire speech.
Jon Stewart admonished that he was either drunk during this speech, or during all of his other speeches.
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Obama's gaffes should be flogged for the same reason that Bush's gaffes were flogged - because superficial people vote.
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Obama's gaffes should be flogged for the same reason that Bush's gaffes were flogged - because superficial people vote.
Much truth in that.
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Romney/Gingrich/Whoever - not so good. Obama - horribly worse. BHO may be the first POTUS that actually doesn't like America, it's traditions, or its institutions.
Eh, it'd be a toss up between whether Santorum or Obama would be worse. I'd honestly say I'd prefer four more years of Obama if forced at gun point.
Just saw that Newt got 40% of the votes in the SC primary? :facepalm: