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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: vaskidmark on January 31, 2012, 04:52:51 PM
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stay safe.
Compare and contrast:
A) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/31/tsa-agents-wait-hours-to-_n_1244185.html?ref=travel&icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D131494
TSA agents at New York's La Guardia airport reportedly discovered possible pipe bombs in a passenger's bag, but failed to notify police for six hours, according to the New York Post.
The discovery occurred at 11:30 a.m. Monday in a male passenger's carry-on. Inside, screeners saw one gold and one silver object, both six inches long with "springs" inside. Thinking they could be bombs, the agents called their supervisor. (Check out a photo of the pipes here.)
The items were screened for explosives and determined not to be a threat, reports CNN. The passenger said the pipes were for homeopathic medicine. The pipes were removed from the bag and set aside. The supervisor let the passenger pass without taking any information.
According to the Post, the supervisor didn't think to notify the police until 3:00 p.m. After which it took an additional two hours for the bomb specialist to arrive. However, CNN reports that when the next shift arrived, officers thought they were test dummies for TSA training. When they learned otherwise, the Port Authority Police Department was called.
By both accounts the objects were removed from the airport between 5:00 and 5:30 p.m. They were taken to the police bomb range and determined not to be a threat.
According to a TSA spokesperson, the police were called only "out of an abundance of caution."
B) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/british-tourists-deported-for-tweeting_n_1242073.html?1328034740&icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl3%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D131494
Careful what you tweet.
Two 20-somethings arriving from the U.K. learned a harsh lesson about the American government's sense of humor on Monday, Jan. 23, when they were detained and then forced to return home due to comments they made on Twitter.
According to the Daily Mail, Leigh Van Bryan, 26, and Emily Bunting, 24, were going through Customs when they were detained.
The two spend the next 12 hours locked up in a cell and being grilled by Homeland Security officials. Bryan was charged with intending to come to the U.S. to commit crimes, while Bunting was charged for traveling with him.
Paperwork for the incident indicates that Bryan's name was on a "One Day Lookout" list maintained by Homeland Security.
According to the New York Post and World News Daily, this refers to an auto-generated temporary list of inbound travelers that are already in the official terror watch list database.
The paperwork also referred to Bryan's tweets, incorrectly stating they came from his account on "Tweeter."
From the official paperwork:
During secondary examination, Mr. Bryan was placed under oath and his sworn statement was taken by CBP Officer Wahmann, Mr. Bryan confirmed that he had posted on his Tweeter [sic] website account that he was coming to the United States to dig up the grave of Marilyn Monroe. Also the tweeter account of Mr. Bryan posted that he was coming to destroy America.
The tweets had been sent a week before their trip, indicating the U.S. government had flagged the pair well before their arrival.
Both claimed the messages were lost in translation.
"They asked why we wanted to destroy America and we tried to explain ['destroy'] meant to get trashed and party," Bunting told the Daily Mail.
Bryan also said he was asked about a tweet that he says is a quote from the television show 'Family Guy' that read, "3 weeks today, we're totally in LA p***** people off on Hollywood Blvd and diggin' Marilyn Monroe up!"
"I almost burst out laughing when they asked me if I was going to be Leigh's lookout while he dug up Marilyn Monroe," Bunting told the Daily Mail. "It got even more ridiculous because the officials searched our suitcases and said they were looking for spades and shovels."
But things quickly became less humorous to Bryan and Bunting.
Speaking with the Daily Mail, Bryan said officials told him, "You really f***** up with that tweet, boy," before handcuffing and putting him in what Bryan described as a "cage" inside of a van. He said he was then transported to a prison with other border offenders.
"It's just so ridiculous it's almost funny but at the time it was really scary. The Homeland Security agents were treating me like some kind of terrorist," Bryan told the Mail.
"We just wanted to have a good time on holiday. That was all Leigh meant in his tweets," Bunting told The Sun.
This isn't the first time a tweet has gotten someone in trouble with the U.S. government.
And other social media outlets, such as Facebook, have also been used by police to prevent potential crimes. Just last week, an Arizona policeman drew a Secret Service probe for posting a photo of a man holding a T-shirt with the image of President Obama riddled with bullet holes.
This news comes at a time when Internet privacy and censorship are hot issues. Just last week, controversy erupted when Twitter revealed it would comply with censorship laws in countries like China and Thailand where much of the content on the internet is restricted.
UPDATE: Leigh Van Bryan is originally from Ireland but currently lives in Coventry, U.K., while Emily Bunting resides in Birmingham, U.K.
Take a look at the tweets that got the couple in hot water (below):
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The second story is already up in politics.
The first one, though?
:facepalm:
And the pictures show something, that too the uneducated on this subject, is "call the extperts NOW!"
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Inside, screeners saw one gold and one silver object, both six inches long with "springs" inside.
Ball point pens ???
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Rods of ra, where is Mike Irwin?
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Inside, screeners saw one gold and one silver object, both six inches long with "springs" inside.
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^^^ It is unclear to me how these objects are related to homeopathic medicine. They look like no sort of medication administration device with which I am familiar.
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^^^ It is unclear to me how these objects are related to homeopathic medicine. They look like no sort of medication administration device with which I am familiar.
They work on the same principle as other homeopathic remedies. Which is to say they may have a placebo affect and nothing more.
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^^^ It is unclear to me how these objects are related to homeopathic medicine. They look like no sort of medication administration device with which I am familiar.
The latent energy of the coiled springs emanates through you body and puts a bounce in your step ;)
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^^^ It is unclear to me how these objects are related to homeopathic medicine. They look like no sort of medication administration device with which I am familiar.
Shun the non-believer! Praise be to Ra and His Holy Rods!
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Know what they call homeopathic medicine that actually works?
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Medicine.
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(from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUQn0HhGEk)
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Shun the non-believer! Praise be to Ra and His Holy Rods!
Ooh Ra!
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Know what they call homeopathic medicine that actually works?
I am a proponent of moving homeopathic "medicine" to the bottled water aisle. More honest, that way.
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http://xkcd.com/971/
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The latent energy of the coiled springs emanates through you body and puts a bounce in your step ;)
Wouldn't that be potential energy of the spring?
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Know what they call homeopathic medicine that actually works?
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Medicine.
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(from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujUQn0HhGEk)
I giggled.
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http://xkcd.com/971/
I laughed.
Shun the non-believer! Praise be to Ra and His Holy Rods!
I :facepalm:
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Wouldn't that be potential energy of the spring?
Yeah, they take care of that problem, too ;)
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The items were screened for explosives and determined not to be a threat, reports CNN. The passenger said the pipes were for homeopathic medicine.
At this point, why were they confiscated?
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At this point, why were they confiscated?
From the mouth of TSA: But the officer prevented the metal item from going through because of its "material and appearance," a TSA official said.
So, after "screening" the Rods of Ra and determining that they did not contain explosives because they were not emitting whiffs of explodey stuff that the bomb-sniffing-for machine checks for, the TSA drone decides that they "look" dangerous because they are made out of metal.
What's so difficult to understand about that? If "assault weapons" can be banned because of cosmetic features, why not Rods of Ra?
stay safe.
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At this point, why were they confiscated?
Because TSA-types like the shiny stuff.....
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All I can say is, thanks be to the deity of your choice that the AC Gilbert Company is out of business. Can you imagine the collective brain aneurysms the TSA drones would have if people traveling to see their grandkids or nephews were carrying ERECTOR SETS for Christmas presents?
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