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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Angel Eyes on May 24, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
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Just a heads-up for anyone who's interested: Cabela's has the Pietta 1851 Navy .44 revolvers (brass frame) on sale for $129:
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&N=0&fsch=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=Pietta%20Model%201851%20Confederate%20Navy&x=0&y=0&WTz_l=Header;Search-All%20Products&avad=48247_c2d41ee1&WT.mc_id=al35987&rid=12&WT.tsrc=AFF
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Hmmm, and free shipping on >$99 orders too. Pistol and spare cylinder are $190 shipped. Very tempting, I've wanted one of these for years.
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I've wanted to try out a BP revolver for quite some time. This may not be a replica, but it looks like a cheap way to find out if I want to go further.
I think the starter kit option makes sense with the regular price, but I am not sure with the sale price. I'll have to research this later.
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They're very nice. I have one of them as well as the all steel 1851. You do have to shoot reduced loads in the brass revolver, but it's fine for "fun" shooting. I forget the grains i use in the brass one, but usually just add some cream of wheat between the powder and the ball to get the ball up to a good seating depth.
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Are the Pieta Remingtons good?
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Are the Pieta Remingtons good?
I have one. It shoots reliably and it's accurate enough (not a target pistol, but fine for plinking). The Kirst conversion cylinder drops right in and it eats .45 Colt cowboy loads without a hitch. Be mindful of surface rust; the bluing on the Pietta is not particularly rust-resistant.
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Are the Pieta Remingtons good?
Yes. Very nice. Especially with the Remington 1958s, it's wise to pay a bit more for the steel frame so you can have the option of a conversion cylinder to fire .45 Colt cartridge ammo ("Cowboy" level loads only, though).
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The 1858 New Army isn't all that much more and the start kit package is $250. Considering I have absolutely no black powder stuff now, that might be a better starting point to try it out.
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I have one. It shoots reliably and it's accurate enough (not a target pistol, but fine for plinking). The Kirst conversion cylinder drops right in and it eats .45 Colt cowboy loads without a hitch. Be mindful of surface rust; the bluing on the Pietta is not particularly rust-resistant.
Yes. Very nice. Especially with the Remington 1958s, it's wise to pay a bit more for the steel frame so you can have the option of a conversion cylinder to fire .45 Colt cartridge ammo ("Cowboy" level loads only, though).
Thanks. I have been wanting a set-up like that for the longest. What barrel length do you all prefer?
Uh-oh. Just looked at the prices. I had no idea the conversion cylinder cost as much as (or more than) the gun. :O Doesn't leave much money for snake grips. =(
(Yes, I know the Man With No Name used a Colt. Don't care.)
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I prefer the 1858 Remington just because of the sturdier construction (it has a top strap) and you don't have to fight the stupid wedge to disassemble it.
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Do they make rails for these?
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Do they make rails for these?
I want the chainsaw version.
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Great...thanks...another pistol I don't need and will likely buy.
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I do have to say my 1858 (I want to say mine was made by Uberti, not Pietta) is a downright fun pistol to shoot. And surprisingly accurate out to about 30 yards or so. The heft of the pistol makes it pretty comfortable, even with max loads.
I've got another pistol that's a Kentucky Pistol that came in kit form. It's *really* fun to shoot, especially since it can pretty easily take a fairly decent powder charge...
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Thanks. I have been wanting a set-up like that for the longest. What barrel length do you all prefer?
I've only shot the 8" barrel version. It feels a bit nose-heavy, but there's very little muzzle rise.
By the way, the "Target" model has adjustable sights and offers a better sight picture.
Uh-oh. Just looked at the prices. I had no idea the conversion cylinder cost as much as (or more than) the gun. :O Doesn't leave much money for snake grips. =(
(Yes, I know the Man With No Name used a Colt. Don't care.)
Well, you don't have to buy everything all at once.
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Do they make rails for these?
I want the chainsaw version.
I want one with the bayonet lug and that shoulder-shoudy thing.
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Do they make rails for these?
And I want a black ACOG TA31 ECOS mounted on mine.....
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I wish they didn't require a license here. I'd like an 1858 revolver. No, make it two.
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The 1858 New Army isn't all that much more and the start kit package is $250. Considering I have absolutely no black powder stuff now, that might be a better starting point to try it out.
The 1858 New Army is also a black powder pistol. The only downside to the cartridge conversion cylinders is that they cost more than the gun.
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(Yes, I know the Man With No Name used a Colt. Don't care.)
True ... but Preacher (in Pale Rider) used an 1858 Remington.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1aA3ziqNrQ&feature=related
The original only came with a 7-1/2" barrel (or maybe it was 8"). Cabela's introduced a variant with a 5-1/2" barrel a couple or three years ago. It's totally bogus as far as historical authenticity, but IMHO it balances a lot better.
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The longer barreled revolvers just look better IMO. I think I am going to have to order that 1858 model.
Maybe it is the beer, but I am picturing a tactical rifle with a revolving black powder cylinder, bayonet, tactical light, red dot scope, pistol grip, and adjustable stock. :lol:
The alternative is a Tactical Flintlock rifle with all the rails, plastic, and tactical accessories a retro mall cop would need.
Of course, then they would have to make the "Danial Boone" model Tactical Flintlock rifle with wood stock and grips with picatinny rails carved into the wood and a flint bayonet. I guess if you really wanted to go retro, you would make a Greek Hoplite spear with tactical light and taser attached.
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Maybe it is the beer, but I am picturing a tactical rifle with a revolving black powder cylinder, bayonet, tactical light, red dot scope, pistol grip, and adjustable stock. :lol:
Don't forget the Lasergrips.
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True ... but Preacher (in Pale Rider) used an 1858 Remington.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1aA3ziqNrQ&feature=related
The original only came with a 7-1/2" barrel (or maybe it was 8"). Cabela's introduced a variant with a 5-1/2" barrel a couple or three years ago. It's totally bogus as far as historical authenticity, but IMHO it balances a lot better.
I believe I spotted one (or more) in the trailer for the Hatfield and McCoy miniseries.
http://www.youtube.com/user/historychannel?v=yxDXB2zr_a0
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tactical rifle with a revolving black powder cylinder, bayonet, tactical light, red dot scope, pistol grip, and adjustable stock
Don't forget some sort of flash shield to keep from setting the sleeve of your camoflage buckskins on fire ;)
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The brass frame Pietta 1851's - be very gentle with the little spring steel thingy that resets the cylinder advance pawl. Mine broke after 2 seasons or so.
18-22 grains of FFF for the .44. (Check a loading manual just to be safe. That is the range I recall, though) Soft enough recoil kiddo could even shoot it when she was ~ 7 y.o. Played around with paper cartridges for a bit. Fell by the wayside when it broke, and haven't fiddled with it since.