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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Sergeant Bob on May 28, 2012, 09:42:49 PM
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On History Channel tonight through Wednesday (3 parts) with Kevin Costner and Bill Paxton.
I've got the DVR set.
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Same here. We'll give it a go, see if it's any good.
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Set the DVR a couple days ago.
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Recoding right now.
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Thanks for the reminder! Already missed catching the first showing, but have the dvr set for the repeat.
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Missed the show.
Going to Luchenbach, Texas.
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Well done, though a little hard to follow at first.
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I was impressed with the period correct weaponry. Friends invited me to watch with them so I could translate Appalachian to English for them. =D
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I thought this was a new movie. Is this a documentary you are talking about or a mini-series?
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I thought this was a new movie. Is this a documentary you are talking about or a mini-series?
It's a mini series. If you missed the 1st part, it will be playing again tonight (IIRC) and all three will be playing on Wed.
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Not exactly uplifting entertainment, but interesting and well-produced thus far. Kevin Costner hasn't screwed it up.
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So far so good, haven't watched part 2 yet though.
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long show about feud is long
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DVR set to record all three parts. Will watch later.
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long show about feud is long
Long fued ;)
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Long fued ;)
Ah, the renowned .75 caliber longfeud cartridge ..... [tinfoil]
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SWMBO and I finished part 1 this evening. Not bad at all. Costner has even done a decent job in this one. Looking forward to watching part 2 tomorrow. Everything on DVR.
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I'll be watching part 3 after the kids go to bed tonight. Once I had all the characters straight it was pretty good. A few areas where they took artistic license with the true history (e.g. the Civil War origins of the animosity can't be corroborated, and the lawyer's romantic interest in Roseanna is fiction), but overall reasonably close to what I've read about the actual history.
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Watched it. Good bit I didn't understand due to the language barrier.
It wasn't bad. I find my tolerance for BS gets lower the older I get. Several times during the series I found myself thinking, "Why don't y'all just kill each other and get it over with."
Was stunned to see a truce was signed in 2003. A fight with your neighbor that lasts more than 100 years? Geesh.
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Watched it. Good bit I didn't understand due to the language barrier.
It wasn't bad. I find my tolerance for BS gets lower the older I get. Several times during the series I found myself thinking, "Why don't y'all just kill each other and get it over with."
Was stunned to see a truce was signed in 2003. A fight with your neighbor that lasts more than 100 years? Geesh.
After the hanging and prison sentences the feud was basically over (early 1890's). The 2003 "truce" was purely symbolic, and likely tied to them being able to get publicity and therefore money.
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Not sure how well it correlates with the truth, but I found the mini-series portrayed Devil Anse Hatfield in the more positive (or perhaps just less negative) light. Randall McCoy was certainly shown as totally consumed by hatred and malice with no ability to forgive, or even call it quits. A less comical, and far more tragic Black Knight in a way. "Always victorious", even with all his limbs (in this case family members) cut off.
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Watched it. Good bit I didn't understand due to the language barrier.
You're kidding, right?
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My opinion: TOO MAY DAMN COMMERCIALS!! (and the same ones over and over to boot. let's take the caveman for instance... [barf]
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I really liked the show a lot, I've spent some time in West Va and Tennessee & sometimes think about what it might be like to live there, its beautiful country.
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The show was filmed in Romania. That was a surprise.
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The show was filmed in Romania. That was a surprise.
West By God Romania ???
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The show was filmed in Romania. That was a surprise.
I was wondering where they got that accent from :P
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My opinion: TOO MAY DAMN COMMERCIALS!! (and the same ones over and over to boot. let's take the caveman for instance... [barf]
That's what the fast-forward button on the DVR remote is for. Also cuts the overall time for the show down by quite a bit.
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yea, no fancy gadgetry here. =(
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yea, no fancy gadgetry here. =(
Then you'd best get with the program. :P
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My opinion: TOO MAY DAMN COMMERCIALS!! (and the same ones over and over to boot. let's take the caveman for instance... [barf]
TiVo. So easy even a caveman can do it.
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What's a TiVo? =D
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What's a TiVo? =D
It's an exercise program. ;)
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:lol:
I actually turned it off 15 minutes into part three I got so pissed off. I have no idea how it ended. >:D
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:lol:
I actually turned it off 15 minutes into part three I got so pissed off. I have no idea how it ended. >:D
there was some shootin, the end.
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Kinda what I figgered. :lol:
I have to say though, if the whole civil war situation is not confirmed by thorough research to have been the original start of this beef the History Channel has no business presenting it as such. Did they even actually fight together on the battlefield?
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So,,, (someone has to ask it) who won? [ar15]
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So,,, (someone has to ask it) who won? [ar15]
As usual, the lawyers.
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Ah, yup, I shoulda known. :facepalm:
:lol:
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As usual, the lawyers.
And a "journalist" or two.
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Kinda what I figgered. :lol:
I have to say though, if the whole civil war situation is not confirmed by thorough research to have been the original start of this beef the History Channel has no business presenting it as such. Did they even actually fight together on the battlefield?
There is absolutely no corroboration I've ever found for that part of the story. The idea that Devil Anse deserted is also rather unlikely, though not impossible - especially towards the end when many soldiers deserted. I have also not found any evidence that Randall McCoy was ever a POW, at least not for any real length of time.
The guy wearing the Union jacket that Jim Vance murdered in the show was Randall McCoy's brother, Asa Harmon McCoy. The real story there was a bit different. Who actually shot him is not known, but a group of men from the area, the "Logan Wildcats" tracked him down and killed him. They were mostly a Hatfield affiliated group, and it's quite likely that Jim Vance was involved. That said, none of the other McCoy's, including Randall, really minded that he was murdered. They all considered it an offense to the family that he'd fought for the North.
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So it should be called the "History, we'll make it up for ya!" channel... ;)
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Well, I consider some of that to be "artistic license" to help make the story a little easier to tell in a movie/mini-series format, or to make it seemingly more interesting. For relatively minor aspects of a larger story that doesn't bother me too much.
Most of the major parts of the story they did seem to get mostly correct.
And some of the Civil War related stuff may well be true. I just haven't found anything that confirms it. I also haven't found anything that specifically refutes it.
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Devil Anse and Randall McCoy did't fight together as it is portrayed in the MOVIE but, they did reportedly get together at one point to kill some General (don't remember the name). Randall led Anse to him.
I got that from another show about the H/C feud, with commentary from several historians who have studied it at length.
A lot of the details of the feud are sketchy anyway but I think the film followed history pretty well considering it is, after all, a MOVIE. ;)
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I understand the whole movie artistic license thing and I have no problem with it except showing it on the History Channel seems to lend it a validity it does not warrant.