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Title: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: vaskidmark on June 13, 2012, 09:22:44 AM
Over all, I think the closing paragraph is the best comment on the situation.  But I just do not know how to separate the two constructs - it's like the Nature v. Nurture debate with just no good answer.

But if this keeps either/both sides from bothering the sex tourists I guess it won't be too bad for their economy.  [somewhat sarcasm, somewhat not]

stay safe.

http://www.volokh.com/2012/06/12/buddhist-muslim-violence-in-burma/

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Buddhist-Muslim Violence in Burma
Eugene Volokh • June 12, 2012 2:02 pm

The L.A. Times reports:

The unrest was sparked Friday following last month’s rape and murder of a Buddhist girl, allegedly by three Muslims, and the lynching of 10 Muslims in retaliation. The weekend saw rival Muslim and Buddhist mobs burn houses. The government said about 4,100 people have lost their homes, many taking refuge in schools and Buddhist monasteries.

Analysts said that while the problem surfaced over the past week, the underlying conditions have developed over decades. A longstanding narrative of the military junta that had ruled the country for more than half a century was the preeminence of the ethnic Burman majority, which makes up about 68% of the population of Myanmar, also known as Burma.

“The rest, the non-Burmans, were pretty much persecuted,” said Jan Zalewski, a London-based South Asia analyst with IHS Global Insight, a forecasting firm….

As is common in such situations, it’s not clear to what extent the crimes reflect religious ideology and to what extent they are ethnic clashes where the ethnic groups are defined partly by religion. Thanks to Prof. Howard Friedman (Religion Clause) for the pointer.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: HankB on June 13, 2012, 10:28:24 AM
Coming next a TV mini-series . . . "Taliban Jihadis vs. Shaolin Kung Fu Monks."
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: Ned Hamford on June 13, 2012, 12:39:46 PM
Coming next a TV mini-series . . . "Taliban Jihadis vs. Shaolin Kung Fu Monks."
[popcorn]
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: griz on June 13, 2012, 01:44:26 PM
Until now i though "Buddhist mob" was an oxymoron.  Live and learn I guess.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 13, 2012, 01:56:17 PM
Until now i though "Buddhist mob" was an oxymoron. 


I don't know about that. It makes more sense than "Buddhist individual," doesn't it?
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: seeker_two on June 13, 2012, 02:05:43 PM
Coming next a TV mini-series . . . "Taliban Jihadis vs. Shaolin Kung Fu Monks."

I'd watch that team-up on DEADLIEST WARRIOR.....  :cool:
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: griz on June 13, 2012, 03:08:39 PM

I don't know about that. It makes more sense than "Buddhist individual," doesn't it?


I was thinking more along the lines of the word mob meaning unruly. 
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: zxcvbob on June 13, 2012, 03:29:17 PM
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Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence

You know that's gotta end badly.  (great title)
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: Boomhauer on June 13, 2012, 04:05:26 PM
Cripple Fight! Cripple Fight!

Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: Balog on June 13, 2012, 05:46:32 PM
One of the most violent and bloodthirsty people in my old unit (which is something of an accomplishment in the USMC infantry) was a professing Buddhist. I think their pacifist nature is over rated.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 13, 2012, 09:46:37 PM
One of the most violent and bloodthirsty people in my old unit (which is something of an accomplishment in the USMC infantry) was a professing Buddhist. I think their pacifist nature is over rated.

Need I point out the long list of battle implements, martial arts, and torture implements invented by self-professed Buddhists?
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: TommyGunn on June 13, 2012, 11:41:07 PM
Need I point out the long list of battle implements, martial arts, and torture implements invented by self-professed Buddhists?
Yes, please! >:D  It could be SUCH a learning experience.........  [popcorn] [tinfoil]
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: MicroBalrog on June 14, 2012, 11:49:04 AM
Yes, please! >:D  It could be SUCH a learning experience.........  [popcorn] [tinfoil]

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shaolinwolf.com%2Fbilder%2Fweapons%2Fweapon10monksspade.jpg&hash=c1e18c8650a5ae1af52cc0a1f1ba3ee1947c14fd)

Here we have a Budhhist monk learning to decapitate his enemies with a shovel in flight.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: zxcvbob on June 14, 2012, 04:01:36 PM
I gotta get me one of them flying shovels.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: agricola on June 14, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
some background:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people

so probably not Talibs, then.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: vaskidmark on June 15, 2012, 07:11:47 AM
some background:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people

so probably not Talibs, then.

Which, in my book, makes it even worser.

Talibs, being fanatical crazy people, have an "excuse" for behaving badly.  The descendants of shipwrecked Arabs not so much.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Religion of Peace meets Religion of Non-Violence
Post by: gunsmith on June 15, 2012, 10:27:17 AM
I met a lot of folks from Burma, they were always very nice.
They never called their country Myanmar.