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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Jamie B on September 19, 2012, 11:58:17 PM
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-univision-campaign-100-percent-america-234334429--election.html
MIAMI--Still in damage control mode over his "47 percent" remark captured by a hidden camera, Mitt Romney repeatedly insisted Wednesday that he is running to represent "100 percent" of America and that he has a record of being inclusive.
It's 100%, it's 53%, forget the 47%....what number is it really?
Over the last week or so, Romney seems to have proven numerous times that he is incapable of running a national campaign.
This latest foot-in-mouth episode, coupled with damage control, still sends a message of confusion, at best.
Looks like he has wasted a lot of money so far.....
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Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D
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Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D
You can't criticize anything Obama does or says, or you're a racist. (you should know that by now) Obama could kill a *baby* and eat it on live TV and he would get a pass.
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I've listened to the audio from that so called "gotcha".
What I heard was that as a candidate in a primary race his job was to win over the potential supporters that didn't constitute the 47% that will for Obama no matter what.
As a candidate his job is to convince hornswaggle voters, represent 100% of Americans.
His damage control and spin attempts are made of Latinum plated suckage.
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I think the media is driving the narrative and everyone getting all flummoxed about his bad campaign aren't taking that into account.
The scandal is the 47% of the folks who are going to vote to keep their gravy train running despite the long term consequences.
Bunch of sheep.
You need to edit the title of this thread. It violates the forum rules.
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Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D
Among all 57 states ...
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I hope he doesn't backpedal on this.....it's the first time he's tried to win the conservative base since his campaign opened.....
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I think the media is driving the narrative and everyone getting all flummoxed about his bad campaign aren't taking that into account.
The scandal is the 47% of the folks who are going to vote to keep their gravy train running despite the long term consequences.
Bunch of sheep.
You need to edit the title of this thread. It violates the forum rules.
Sure, it is fixed. Still does not change the facts.
He still is tanking by not being able to run a national campaign.
The newest polls are hitting today, and he is loosing serious ground.
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The newest polls are hitting today, and he is loosing serious ground.
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Really?
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Yes, really.
Here is a Fox News poll that I saw on the news this morning:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/obama-has-edge-over-romney-in-three-battleground-states/
Here are more polls by state where Mitt is behind:
http://www.pollheadlines.com/
It is quite obvious that romney would be sitting much better if he was running a good national campaign.
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It is quite obvious that romney would be sitting much better if he was running a good national campaign.
Of course, so would obama.
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Yes, really.
Here is a Fox News poll that I saw on the news this morning:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/obama-has-edge-over-romney-in-three-battleground-states/
Here are more polls by state where Mitt is behind:
http://www.pollheadlines.com/
It is quite obvious that romney would be sitting much better if he was running a good national campaign.
Since I'm familiar with Virginia, sample in the Fox News poll: 38% D/ 33% R/ 26% I
It has Democrats with a +5 advantage in Virginia. Actual registrations in Virginia? +3 Republican.
Yeah... I'm worried about that poll. Notice the Independents are almost exactly even (41-42 or 43-43), yet SOMEHOW Obama ends up with a significant lead? Not buying that.
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-univision-campaign-100-percent-america-234334429--election.html
It's 100%, it's 53%, forget the 47%....what number is it really?
Over the last week or so, Romney seems to have proven numerous times that he is incapable of running a national campaign.
This latest foot-in-mouth episode, coupled with damage control, still sends a message of confusion, at best.
Looks like he has wasted a lot of money so far.....
wth is the problem? this is america, where all you need is a slight advantage to win. so who needs the little guy? =| what an idiot. every election i am amazed at how close the vote really is. whoever wins likes to make a big deal about them getting the majority, but in the end they only win by a few percent or less.
The scandal is the 47% of the folks who are going to vote to keep their gravy train running despite the long term consequences.
i haven't looked at the demographics, but i don't think that is the case. around here the people getting the majority of public assistance could care less, and are likely not the ones to vote. it seems that most of the voters just want to give their money away.
Meanwhile no one cares that there's a video of Obama out there stating his belief in redistribution of wealth..... >:D
at least he thinks he is talking to 99% of the people.
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Since I'm familiar with Virginia, sample in the Fox News poll: 38% D/ 33% R/ 26% I
It has Democrats with a +5 advantage in Virginia. Actual registrations in Virginia? +3 Republican.
Yeah... I'm worried about that poll. Notice the Independents are almost exactly even (41-42 or 43-43), yet SOMEHOW Obama ends up with a significant lead? Not buying that.
Most of the polling outfit seemto oversample dems throughout most of the campaign season and then get a litttle more realistic the last week or two to salvage some credibility.
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honestly, i think being behind in the polls adds fervor to the campaign.
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i haven't looked at the demographics, but i don't think that is the case. around here the people getting the majority of public assistance could care less, and are likely not the ones to vote. it seems that most of the voters just want to give their money away.
The "47%" that aren't paying Federal Income Tax aren't all on assistance. I know at least one solidly middle-class (maybe "upper middle class" judging by the toys he buys, he has bikes that cost more than some folks' cars) who didn't pay Fed Income Tax a couple years ago (was bragging about it on Facebook). He wasn't cheating, just using all of the available deductions and such to his advantage. However, because didn't have to pay, he thinks we should all pay more. Him not paying is evidence in his mind that the tax rates are too low. That same year, I paid $14k in federal income taxes after itemizing deductions. MY suggestion to write a check to the Treasury Dept rather than lobbying for higher taxes overall is rebuffed as inefficient.
Chris
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Sure, it is fixed. Still does not change the facts.
He still is tanking by not being able to run a national campaign.
The newest polls are hitting today, and he is loosing serious ground.
Not by what I'm seeing. The narrative the MSM is putting out just ain't true. I think you'll see the polls getting closer to what the vote (really the only poll that counts) will be the closer we get to election day.
http://datechguyblog.com/2012/09/17/demoralized-as-hell-the-poll-the-media-isnt-talking-about-edition/
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WND but it's a nice thought anyway
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/secret-retirement-plans-does-obama-expect-to-lose/ (http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/secret-retirement-plans-does-obama-expect-to-lose/)
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http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/09/critical-audio-gap-in-complete-romney-tape-released-by-mother-jones/
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Not to mention the desperation e-mails I'm getting 2-3 times per day from the Obama campaign. I've got a feeling their internal polling shows them losing...
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I'm skeptical of polls in general (Didn't most polls have Mondale tied with Reagan until election night?) so I'm not going to get too excited when some pollster or analyst happens to put out something I happen like.
The bottom line is the only poll that counts is the one on election day, and in order to eke out a win, the Republican has to have enough of a margin to negate Democratic vote fraud. (Stuffed ballot boxes, hanging chads, etc., are the least of it.)
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All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board. Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period. Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.
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All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board. Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period. Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.
But then the system wouldn't be rigged! How can you win in a fair game?
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All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board. Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period. Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.
Run for office. Please.
The current policriters will never implement it, as there is insufficient opportunity for graft.
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All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board. Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period. Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.
Yeah, well way to go Grampster. You just took away 90% of what each candidate is campaigning for and/or against. They would then have to start debating about issues besides who gets free rides and who gets smacked with the tax burden. And what about those poor people at the IRS? What will they do? I have always said that if we have taxes, EVERYONE should have to pay taxes - even if it's only $100/yr. Skin in the game gives one a completely different perspective on things.
I know there is no workable way to do it (because good luck collecting), but I wish everyone would have to pay their taxes by sitting down and writing a check to the IRS, versus getting "X" dollars taken out of their paychecks and then "whoopee!!" getting some of it "refunded" at the end of the year. Too many of those people (and I am in the "taken out of my pay" crowd) simply have zero concept of their tax burden. If you're making $50K/yr and have to sit down on April 15th and write a check for $5000, I think you end up with a different perspective than if your employer deducts $7000 from your pay for taxes and the government gives you $2000 of it back. This is something the self-employed know all too well, four times per year.
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All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board. Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period. Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.
Yes, and while we are at it let's eliminate all tax exempt institutions.
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Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period.
What if the dollar is from your bank account ? :P
And you want businesses to pay taxes on gross revenue with no consideration of dollars spent for inventory, payroll, equipment, etc ??? :O
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I agree with Ben, but you have to pay your taxes on Election Day at your Polling Place.
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I agree with Ben, but you have to pay your taxes on Election Day at your Polling Place.
Oooh. :O Nice twist. :cool:
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All the whining about taxes from R's and D's, shows how much we need to scrap the present system and have a flat tax of 10% across the board. Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period. Everybody has a dog in the fight and there is no room for whining.
don't forget that the budget must not exceed the amount collected!
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I agree with Ben, but you have to pay your taxes on Election Day at your Polling Place.
All of them. Income, Social Security, Medicare, State, Local, Property. Will make for fun elections !!!
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I'm skeptical of polls in general (Didn't most polls have Mondale tied with Reagan until election night?) so I'm not going to get too excited when some pollster or analyst happens to put out something I happen like.
The bottom line is the only poll that counts is the one on election day, and in order to eke out a win, the Republican has to have enough of a margin to negate Democratic vote fraud. (Stuffed ballot boxes, hanging chads, etc., are the least of it.)
If you listen to Rush and others, most of the polls are over sampling Democrats by as much as 13% assuming Democrat voter enthusiasm is very high. From what I have heard, that is definitely not the case.
As already mentioned, only one poll counts. The polling outfits can be wrong all year and only have to be right close to election time.
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I agree with Ben, but you have to pay your taxes on Election Day at your Polling Place.
Oooh, SCOTUS is not enthused about anything that looks like a poll tax, going back to Reconstruction and Jim Crow.
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Oooh, SCOTUS is not enthused about anything that looks like a poll tax, going back to Reconstruction and Jim Crow.
Oh, you can still vote, you just get hauled away by the IRS afterward if you don't pay up...... :police: :police: :police:
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The narrative the media has built about Romney and the OMG! Gotcha! nature of their coverage might almost convince me to vote for him.
I'll grant you that the Romney campaign is no juggernaut but they are operating in an environment that is even more hostile than anything Bush had to deal with.
The gloves are off and the media isn't even hiding their bias. Most average Americans are so disconnected they don't see the bias. The media is propagandizing the uninformed, playing to their base (the left) and doesn't care about the conservatives or libertarians, except where they can sow conflict between them.
By beotching about the Romney campaign you run the risk of sounding like a member of our subversive Fourth Estate. That was really my point.
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I agree with Ben, but you have to pay your taxes on Election Day at your Polling Place.
I think a Constitutional Amendment that election day will now always be the first Tuesday before the final day that individual Income Taxes are due, would be a nice touch.
(Although it might backfire and remind freeloaders of exactly WHERE they got their $12,000 tax credit refund check after doing their taxes on their $30,000 of income that year...)
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I understand the objective behind having to paying taxes to vote, but I don't think that creating yet ANOTHER way to twist arms for collection of federal taxes is the way to go about it. It could have quite a few unintended consequences.
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Y'all are going too far. I think you can accomplish the same thing by just ending employer withholding. Everyone pays quarterly or annually.
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The narrative the media has built about Romney and the OMG! Gotcha! nature of their coverage might almost convince me to vote for him.
The gloves are off and the media isn't even hiding their bias. Most average Americans are so disconnected they don't see the bias. The media is propagandizing the uninformed, playing to their base (the left) and doesn't care about the conservatives or libertarians, except where they can sow conflict between them.
they're only biased when they not promoting my point of view! =D
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they're only biased when they not promoting my point of view! =D
Quoted. For. Truth.
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The media is taking the 47% thing out of context. Romney was at a fund raising event and those 47% would not likely contribute anything to his campaign.
Every individual and every every business that is not a Sole Proprietor pays 10% of every dollar, no deductions, no matter where that dollar comes from, period.
Less business expenses of course!
I actually prefer the "fair tax" with the states doing all tax collections on money spent. I don't want to depend on quarterly or annual tax paymens for the majority of Americans.
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Re media narrative. I watched CNN last night and they showed a poll to support their thesis that Mitt's bungled everything was giving the president a win despite his failings. The poll they used was likely voters in Nevada. Obama was 3% up. He won by 12% over McCain.
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In the immortal words of the great Iowahawkblog, all polls are bulls***.
I loathe Romney and can't see myself voting for him, but he's not actually doing a bad job considering how unabashedly the media is propagandizing for Obama.
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Don't vote for Romney.
Vote instead to neutralize the other guy who's voting for the Prevaricator In Chief.
Yes, that means checking the box by Romney's name, but just remind yourself that you're voting against the dude hitting America over the head with a brick.
As some of the other guys have already said, buy us some time. If Mr. O-Logo gets another term, that line from Independence Day -- "Time's up!" -- will take on real meaning.
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Don't vote for Romney.
Vote instead to neutralize the other guy who's voting for the Prevaricator In Chief.
Yes, that means checking the box by Romney's name, but just remind yourself that you're voting against the dude hitting America over the head with a brick.
As some of the other guys have already said, buy us some time. If Mr. O-Logo gets another term, that line from Independence Day -- "Time's up!" -- will take on real meaning.
Obama with a strongly R House and Senate would probably do less damage than Bush 2.0 and party voting. Or Mitt could be bullied by conservative Congressfolk into doing a decent job. Too close to call at this point.
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We haven't exactly seen House Republicans use the power they have to resist the Obama juggernaut, have we? Don't put too much faith in that "R."