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Title: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 30, 2012, 05:00:38 PM
http://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-news/press-releases/2012/10/disney-acquire-lucasfilm-ltd

Star Wars VII in 2015.

Say it ain't so. :facepalm:


<binks>Meesah gonna guess thisa gonna be bombad awful!</binks>
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Brad Johnson on October 30, 2012, 05:28:02 PM

<binks>Meesah gonna guess thisa gonna be bombad awful!</binks>

Can't be any worse than Jar Jar Binks... or the awful "cleanup" additions done for the re-releases... or Greedo shooting first... or Ewoks... or Christian Haydensen...

Brad
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Post by: roo_ster on October 30, 2012, 05:30:40 PM
In my reality, only episodes 4-6 were made.
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Post by: Ben on October 30, 2012, 05:31:11 PM
Can't be any worse than Jar Jar Binks...


GAH! How many times do I have to say that mentioning that name on APS is a ban-able offense!!!
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: MechAg94 on October 30, 2012, 05:39:26 PM
Maybe they could do Star Wars VII:  Attack of the Gungans

Then we could see an older luke and the rest of them fight back and slaughter all the Gungans.  That might be fun. 
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: erictank on October 30, 2012, 05:39:57 PM
http://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-news/press-releases/2012/10/disney-acquire-lucasfilm-ltd

Star Wars VII in 2015.

Say it ain't so. :facepalm:


<binks>Meesah gonna guess thisa gonna be bombad awful!</binks>

Let's be fair - they're doing pretty damn well with their Marvel properties, and their Pixar stuff has always been top-shelf (even if I didn't like the Cars movies myself). It's quite possible that they can manage Star Wars, which they've had a strong association with for YEARS, in the same sort of "Do your thing, and make it good" manner.

Cautiously optimistic here...
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: birdman on October 30, 2012, 05:40:14 PM
Given disney's typical iron hand of control, perhaps they will be able to keep Lucas at arms reach and make it good.  I want to see the Thrawn arc be made into a trilogy.  Maybe Peter Jackson or (fingers crossed) Kevin smith directing?  
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: roo_ster on October 30, 2012, 05:41:20 PM
OK, if I were to admit this reality...only for a short time, mind you...I have a challenge for you all.

I will have none of this happy talk about Marvel & Jackson.

Think of what horrifying cross-overs are now possible!

I bet you can't help but think of one or two...



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Post by: bedlamite on October 30, 2012, 05:41:44 PM
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Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Brad Johnson on October 30, 2012, 05:43:52 PM

Think of what horrifying cross-overs are now possible!





'Mater and Jar-Jar's Goofy Movie

Brad
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: mtnbkr on October 30, 2012, 05:47:09 PM
The next Disney Princess will be from Alderaan. :D

Chris
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: MechAg94 on October 30, 2012, 05:48:22 PM
Are any of you worried that Disney will remove the Jedi and the Force from furture movies?  I mean, they have a reputation for taking religion out of all the stories they turn into movies.  

 =D
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: bedlamite on October 30, 2012, 06:04:17 PM
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Post by: drewtam on October 30, 2012, 06:22:24 PM
Imagine a world where Joss Whedon directs Episode 7.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: charby on October 30, 2012, 06:46:38 PM
http://thewaltdisneycompany.com/disney-news/press-releases/2012/10/disney-acquire-lucasfilm-ltd

Star Wars VII in 2015.

Say it ain't so. :facepalm:


<binks>Meesah gonna guess thisa gonna be bombad awful!</binks>

You know last time I checked you don't have to buy a ticket, rent a DVD, or even watch it on TV.
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Post by: lee n. field on October 30, 2012, 07:07:53 PM
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That could be an interesting story.  Minnie dies tragically, giving birth to a small litter.  Rodent 1 and Rodent 2 get sent away to be raised by Donald Duck and Pluto. ....
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: seeker_two on October 30, 2012, 09:53:51 PM
Given disney's typical iron hand of control, perhaps they will be able to keep Lucas at arms reach and make it good.  I want to see the Thrawn arc be made into a trilogy.  Maybe Peter Jackson or (fingers crossed) Kevin smith directing?  

Now you're talking!.....
The next Disney Princess will be from Alderaan. :D

:D
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 30, 2012, 10:26:26 PM
This seems appropriate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns1m_aXJa58

(Yes, it's the "Han Shot First" complaint for the umpteenth time)
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: T.O.M. on October 30, 2012, 10:46:09 PM
I'm in the cautiously hopeful group.  Loved the original trilogy.  Hated most of the next, even though it had such tremendous potential.  The rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker is such a platground for the imagination.  Lucas apparently ran out of good creativity in the 80's, though, and gave us a bunch of crap.

What we've seen out of Disney in the recent past is a real drive towards excellence.  The Pixar films were by and large, awesome.  Great stories told well.  If this same mindset is applied to Star Wars, the possibilities are great.  And, I don't know what the actual contract said, but knowing how much of a control freak the Disney Empire is, I can't see Lucas having any say in anything they put out.

To borrow the title of Episode IV, there is "A New Hope."
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: K Frame on October 30, 2012, 10:48:46 PM
"GAH! How many times do I have to say that mentioning that name on APS is a ban-able offense!!!"

Meesah say yousah too uptite, boss!
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Regolith on October 30, 2012, 11:00:20 PM
I'm in the cautiously hopeful group.  Loved the original trilogy.  Hated most of the next, even though it had such tremendous potential.  The rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker is such a platground for the imagination.  Lucas apparently ran out of good creativity in the 80's, though, and gave us a bunch of crap.

What we've seen out of Disney in the recent past is a real drive towards excellence.  The Pixar films were by and large, awesome.  Great stories told well.  If this same mindset is applied to Star Wars, the possibilities are great.  And, I don't know what the actual contract said, but knowing how much of a control freak the Disney Empire is, I can't see Lucas having any say in anything they put out.

To borrow the title of Episode IV, there is "A New Hope."

There's a pretty good argument that Lucas's creativity only extends to coming up with good ideas, and he sucks at actually refining and executing them, and that it has always been so. The first two Episodes (IV and V), were good precisely because Lucas didn't have total control over them. He wasn't writer, director and executive producer, so there were people there who could tell him "no" and make it stick. Basically, he had some creative feedback that he had to listen to.

That started changing around Episode VI, which is how we wound up with Ewoks. By Episodes I-III, Lucas had total control over the project as writer, director and executive producer, which is why they sucked so hard.

Perhaps with Lucas taking a backseat Episode VII won't be so bad.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: kgbsquirrel on October 30, 2012, 11:12:57 PM
There's a pretty good argument that Lucas's creativity only extends to coming up with good ideas, and he sucks at actually refining and executing them, and that it has always been so. The first two Episodes (IV and V), were good precisely because Lucas didn't have total control over them. He wasn't writer, director and executive producer, so there were people there who could tell him "no" and make it stick. Basically, he had some creative feedback that he had to listen to.

That started changing around Episode VI, which is how we wound up with Ewoks. By Episodes I-III, Lucas had total control over the project as writer, director and executive producer, which is why they sucked so hard.

Perhaps with Lucas taking a backseat Episode VII won't be so bad.


I pointed that out to my friend who told me about this. Of course I immediately noted that as a Disney production the likely-hood is high that the film will be oriented to an even younger audience than Episode 1 was.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Regolith on October 30, 2012, 11:24:43 PM
I pointed that out to my friend who told me about this. Of course I immediately noted that as a Disney production the likely-hood is high that the film will be oriented to an even younger audience than Episode 1 was.

Maybe, but as I've seen pointed out elsewhere Disney also owns the Marvel Comics franchise, and they've been pretty good about not doing that with the comic book movies so far.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Marnoot on October 30, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
Of course I immediately noted that as a Disney production the likely-hood is high that the film will be oriented to an even younger audience than Episode 1 was.

The Iron Man movie franchise is a Disney property, and they've not pandered to younger audiences with that. Though I suppose the temptation for them to do so with Star Wars may be higher.

Edit: Oops, Regolith beat me to it. Disney has done pretty well in segregating their properties to various age groups, rather than reducing everything to kiddie fodder. The question for this is what they're going to file Star Wars along with. In the little kids' file, or the teen+adult file.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: BobR on October 30, 2012, 11:47:38 PM
Target the 8-10 year old group, that way you should be able to get up to Star Wars 37 (or so) before they grow too old to continue watching. The you just start all over.

bob
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: kgbsquirrel on October 31, 2012, 12:04:31 AM
Target the 8-10 year old group, that way you should be able to get up to Star Wars 37 (or so) before they grow too old to continue watching. The you just start all over.

bob

Don't forget the moirchendice!
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: zxcvbob on October 31, 2012, 12:07:52 AM
I don't understand the felt on the pogo stick.   ???   =D
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Strings on October 31, 2012, 12:23:04 AM
>Of course I immediately noted that as a Disney production the likely-hood is high that the film will be oriented to an even younger audience than Episode 1 was.<

Yeah... just like their Vivid properties are so well geared towards younger... er...

Nevermind
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 31, 2012, 12:31:01 AM
I don't understand the felt on the pogo stick.   ???   =D

That's so the graboids don't hear it.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: kgbsquirrel on October 31, 2012, 01:17:55 AM
That's so the graboids don't hear it.

Walk Hop without rhythm.
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Post by: Balog on October 31, 2012, 02:49:58 AM
The Marvel properties have been good mindless blockbusters, but not really good movies. Pixar has gone steadily downhill since the acquisition. They'd have to work hard to screw it up worse than Lucas did. But the best case scenario is pretty decent mindless blockbusters. And that's a sad fate for such an intelligent and in depth extended universe.

Also, not just SW but all LucasFilms. So they have the rights to Indiana Jones too.
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Post by: Battle Monkey of Zardoz on October 31, 2012, 05:06:05 AM
I'm not optimistic. Not at all. Unless they pick up from after Return of the Jedi, it's going to be major suckage. Major. Now, as mentioned, A thrawn trilogy would be nice.
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Post by: T.O.M. on October 31, 2012, 06:50:17 AM

Also, not just SW but all LucasFilms. So they have the rights to Indiana Jones too.

I'm not real concerned about Indiana Jones. That franchise slipped badly with Temple of Doom, then crashed hard with that Crystal Skull crap.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: MechAg94 on October 31, 2012, 08:30:24 AM
Yeah, they could combine Indy and Laboof with the Ancient Aliens guys and come up with a great movie.   :P :mad: [tinfoil] [barf]
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Jamisjockey on October 31, 2012, 08:35:54 AM
I don't understand the felt on the pogo stick.   ???   =D

Quieter than a flaming pogo stick. Stealthy.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Ben on October 31, 2012, 09:26:45 AM
Walk Hop without rhythm.

I see what you did there. :)
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Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 31, 2012, 11:31:05 AM
I'm sure they'll be allowing mewling lickspittle wannabes such as Kevin Anderson, Barbara Hambly and Kathy Tyers write the screenplays for future movies...

(Argh!  I hate Kevin Anderson!  What he's done to Dune is every bit as bad as what all these hack "authors" have done to Star Wars, including Anderson...)

Dollars to donuts, this is Star Wars VII from Disney:

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Or some similar tripe that gives us more 10 year olds acting in the Star Wars Universe on screen.


Will not watch unless it's Timothy Zahn's books.
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Post by: BryanP on October 31, 2012, 11:40:56 AM
Will not watch unless it's Timothy Zahn's books.

I don't see how they can do the Tim Zahn stuff without recasting. The actors for Luke, Han, Leia etc.. are all way too old to star in a movie set not all that far after Return of The Jedi.

So far my the best thoughts I've read on the Disney buyout have come from John Scalzi:

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/10/30/quick-thoughts-on-disney-buying-lucasfilm/
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Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 31, 2012, 12:26:03 PM
I don't see how they can do the Tim Zahn stuff without recasting. The actors for Luke, Han, Leia etc.. are all way too old to star in a movie set not all that far after Return of The Jedi.

So far my the best thoughts I've read on the Disney buyout have come from John Scalzi:

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/10/30/quick-thoughts-on-disney-buying-lucasfilm/

Oh, I totally understand that it would have to be re-cast.

Although Mark Hamil and Harrison Ford aren't much older than Liam Neeson, and Neeson played a Jedi.

Still, it's fine with me if they re-cast Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Leia Organa and the whole crew.

Think about what a privilege it would be as a newish actor to get to play Han Solo!
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Post by: mtnbkr on October 31, 2012, 01:02:43 PM
Liam didn't play a jedi 30 years later in a movie that takes place just a few years later in the story.

Chris
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Post by: French G. on October 31, 2012, 03:01:52 PM
Well Carrie Fisher is def washed up, we need a casting call. I'm thinking Jessica Biel will do.
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Post by: MechAg94 on October 31, 2012, 03:02:59 PM
Paramount did the new Star Trek movie a couple years back with all new actors.  It turned out pretty good.  I think they would just need to be careful about casting and acting to make damn sure they were true to the original characters.  I notice there is a new Star Trek movie coming out next year.

Also, if they did an Episode VII with new actors, what would you like to see for ships and special effects?  Would you want to see everything the same or would you like to see them improve the design to show the guns and such?  I think they could do some neat things to the fighters and shuttles also.  
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 31, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
Paramount did the new Star Trek movie a couple years back with all new actors.  It turned out pretty good.  I think they would just need to be careful about casting and acting to make damn sure they were true to the original characters.  I notice there is a new Star Trek movie coming out next year.

Also, if they did an Episode VII with new actors, what would you like to see for ships and special effects?  Would you want to see everything the same or would you like to see them improve the design to show the guns and such?  I think they could do some neat things to the fighters and shuttles also.  

Same "generation" of ships as IV/V/VI.  X-wing, Y-wing, A-wing, B-wing, TIE, TIE-interceptor, TIE-bomber, etc.  I could accept perhaps a 1-generation leap forward, but designs need to be derivative of the above fighters, Correlian Corvettes, YT-1300's, Dreadnaughts, Nebulon Frigates, Victory-class Star Destroyers and such.

I'd be okay with updating cockpit displays, HUD units and things like that.  I did notice that Lucas had the prequel cockpit computers much more advanced looking than those of the original series, despite being set 30 years earlier.  That's true for both Imperial systems and Rebel, so it's not like people are home-brewing analog computers for black market hyperspace calculators or anything like that.

Though it could be said that the intervening 30 years between the prequels and originals ended up seeing a simplification of computing technology rather than increasing complexity, and the computers in IV/V/VI are simpler and more reliable and purpose-built.

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Post by: seeker_two on October 31, 2012, 03:29:27 PM
Why not do an animated version with Ford, Fisher, Hamill, & Daniels voicing their roles? The CLONE WARS animated movies have been great technically, but weak on storyline.

If we're talking EU, I'd like to see THE TRUCE AT BAKURA as Ep. VII....and also see the Brian Daley Han Solo Trilogy books made into a movie series.....the first EU...and still the best....

Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on October 31, 2012, 03:44:33 PM

If we're talking EU, I'd like to see THE TRUCE AT BAKURA as Ep. VII...


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Truce at Bakura by Kathy Tyers turned Han Solo into a flower-twiddling wimp.  Nah-uh.  Keep her away from any Star Wars plots.  Her license is revoked for character assassination. 
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Post by: seeker_two on October 31, 2012, 05:43:35 PM

Truce at Bakura by Kathy Tyers turned Han Solo into a flower-twiddling wimp.  Nah-uh.  Keep her away from any Star Wars plots.  Her license is revoked for character assassination. 

Are you sure you're not thinking about THE COURTSHIP OF PRINCESS LEIA? That book was a total chic flick....TWILIGHT with spaceships.  :facepalm:
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Post by: MicroBalrog on October 31, 2012, 05:55:46 PM
I loved the prequels. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Post by: Ben on October 31, 2012, 07:33:08 PM
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Post by: MechAg94 on October 31, 2012, 07:35:53 PM
I loved the prequels. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
i don't know if I would say they were that bad.  There are parts and scenes that I can watch over and over, but other parts I won't.  I can certainly see the things that get criticized the most.  
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Post by: Fitz on October 31, 2012, 09:04:59 PM
Interesting tidbit.

Christie golden, author of some of the expanded universe novels, as well as some trek stuff and Warcraft stuff, is my friend Jeff's ex, and a friend of mine
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Post by: BlueStarLizzard on October 31, 2012, 09:34:14 PM
I am hesitatingly optimistic. I've never seen a Disney character as annoying as Jar Jar Binks.

I may live to regret these words but, how could it get worse?
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Post by: kgbsquirrel on October 31, 2012, 09:34:39 PM
Thrawn Trilogy FTW.

Also most anything written by Zahn, but a lot of the EU books pandered to the invincible against all odds rebel fighter jock schtick.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: lee n. field on October 31, 2012, 09:58:29 PM
Same "generation" of ships as IV/V/VI.  X-wing, Y-wing, A-wing, B-wing, TIE, TIE-interceptor, TIE-bomber, etc.  I could accept perhaps a 1-generation leap forward, but designs need to be derivative of the above fighters, Correlian Corvettes, YT-1300's, Dreadnaughts, Nebulon Frigates, Victory-class Star Destroyers and such.

Slip in some stuff from the B5 universe.  Starfuries, Vorlon ships, etc.

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Post by: seeker_two on October 31, 2012, 11:06:47 PM
Slip in some stuff from the B5 universe.  Starfuries, Vorlon ships, etc.



How about a ship that can destroy stars?.....

 http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_Crusher
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Post by: AJ Dual on October 31, 2012, 11:31:34 PM
Just do it all anime, and hire this guy to make it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBM2ZfncoU
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Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 01, 2012, 01:55:37 AM
Just do it all anime, and hire this guy to make it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tBM2ZfncoU

Long live the Empire!  >:D
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Post by: erictank on November 01, 2012, 05:30:31 PM
I'm not optimistic. Not at all. Unless they pick up from after Return of the Jedi, it's going to be major suckage. Major. Now, as mentioned, A thrawn trilogy would be nice.

Episode 7 was always supposed to be after ROTJ. The only question is, how MUCH after? Disney is apparently going to be working from Lucas' notes for 7-8-9, so we're likely looking at a generation or more after ROTJ - which is good if the intent is to bring in Carrie, Mark, and/or Harrison for cameos or starring roles. If they want to do the Heir to the Empire trilogy, they'll have to recast Han, Luke, and Leia.

Not holding my breath, but I'm quite willing to give them a chance.
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Post by: birdman on November 01, 2012, 07:04:25 PM
Episode 7 was always supposed to be after ROTJ. The only question is, how MUCH after? Disney is apparently going to be working from Lucas' notes for 7-8-9, so we're likely looking at a generation or more after ROTJ - which is good if the intent is to bring in Carrie, Mark, and/or Harrison for cameos or starring roles. If they want to do the Heir to the Empire trilogy, they'll have to recast Han, Luke, and Leia.

Not holding my breath, but I'm quite willing to give them a chance.

Crap.  Lucas's notes?  Oh well (throws up hands in disgust)
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: Marnoot on November 01, 2012, 07:17:54 PM
George actually isn't (or at least wasn't, with the original movies) bad at coming up with general ideas for a movie. It's when he takes the (script-)writing and/or directing reins that things take a horrible turn for the worse.
Title: Re: Dear sweet fluffy Jesus on a felt-covered pogo stick...
Post by: erictank on November 01, 2012, 07:34:36 PM
Crap.  Lucas's notes?  Oh well (throws up hands in disgust)

Lucas was always a great idea guy - he just can't write dialogue or direct to save his life. And Kathleen Kennedy is in charge of LFL now.
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Post by: birdman on November 01, 2012, 09:20:59 PM
George actually isn't (or at least wasn't, with the original movies) bad at coming up with general ideas for a movie. It's when he takes the (script-)writing and/or directing reins that things take a horrible turn for the worse.

Really?  Did you -read- his original ideas for solo and the rest of the movie?
Solo as a lizard?

Really the only "general ideas" he had were borrowed from Kurosawa and flash Gordon. 

Basically, episode IV was mad ethe way it is -in spite of- rather than because of Lucas.

When he was given more reigns, we ended up with ep1-3.  So you tell me, when his "ideas" are given full reigns...did it turn our better?  Misa dona think so.
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Post by: Marnoot on November 02, 2012, 01:50:11 AM
Really?  Did you -read- his original ideas for solo and the rest of the movie?
Solo as a lizard?

Really the only "general ideas" he had were borrowed from Kurosawa and flash Gordon.

The basic premise of Star Wars is good; I couldn't possibly care less that it was stolen from Kurosawa and Flash Gordon. The "general ideas" behind 95% of movies are borrowed from previous works, people, and ideas.

When he was given more reigns, we ended up with ep1-3.  So you tell me, when his "ideas" are given full reigns...did it turn our better?  Misa dona think so.

Did you -read- what I wrote? You're saying exactly what I was saying. When he's given power beyond the initial idea it all turns to crap, and quick.
 
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Post by: birdman on November 02, 2012, 09:28:28 AM
The basic premise of Star Wars is good; I couldn't possibly care less that it was stolen from Kurosawa and Flash Gordon. The "general ideas" behind 95% of movies are borrowed from previous works, people, and ideas.

Did you -read- what I wrote? You're saying exactly what I was saying. When he's given power beyond the initial idea it all turns to crap, and quick.
 


I agree with your first statement.  The second, I was referring to his original ideas for things other than the basic premise.  In ep4, those general ideas were restrained, with good result.  In ep1-3, not so much.  But it goes beyond script and directorial, to general ideas for characters and plot development, even before script writing, hence my statement.

So we are in violent agreement I would say :)
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Post by: Marnoot on November 02, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
I agree with your first statement.  The second, I was referring to his original ideas for things other than the basic premise.  In ep4, those general ideas were restrained, with good result.  In ep1-3, not so much.  But it goes beyond script and directorial, to general ideas for characters and plot development, even before script writing, hence my statement.

So we are in violent agreement I would say :)

I think we can all agree Star Wars is better off without George Lucas  =). I hadn't read up on his more horrible ideas (solo lizard!  =|), so that's moderated my initial opinion a smidge.
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Post by: Ben on November 02, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wGR4-SeuJ0&list=PL528026B4F7B34094&index=1&feature=plpp_video
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Post by: Angel Eyes on November 02, 2012, 04:17:20 PM
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of nerds suddenly cried out in terror ..."