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I'm not going to pretend I actually like hot weather, it isn't my favourite, but I'm going to indulge in an anti-British moan.
This country seems to grind to a halt for each of the following:
- A light dusting of snow. First few flakes come down and people start to abandon their cars.
- Temperatures over 25C (77F) Instantly people start to assume that they are going to die of heat stroke.
The only weather we seem equipped to deal with, and enjoy moaning about, is driving persistent rain. Which is a shame because I've hardly seen any this year.
The BBC are telling me that the weather today in my locality is max 28c, an 8mph easterly, 45% humidity. Sunrise was at 0449, sunset is at 2131. I expect this is nowt for some of you.
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I know what you mean. When we were in London in June a few years ago, we were delighted by the weather--85 degrees (30 C) and sunny, little rain. The locals were acting like it was Armageddon and they were about to expire from heat exhaustion!
Now here...we really have something to bitch about: it's 82 already at 0730, and going to 96 degrees with humidity and little breeze. Great day to be putting up cedar siding on the barn, Eh?
TC
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I would gladdly welcome that weather report.
Actually, today isn't going to be too bad here. The high is only 94 degrees.
Maybe I need to think about moving.
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I expect this is nowt for some of you.
Is nowt a typo or a Britishicism?
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Nowt is a northern thing - 'Bread with nowt taken out' is a famous slogan.
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Try north-central Louisiana today . . . actual temperature 91°; with humidity, etc. factored in, the heat index will make it feel like 103°!
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Sorry, yes it means 'nothing'. I don't use it often, just occasionally it fits right into a sentence.
Heh, the weather here is very similar to the weather in Las Vegas today.
Preacherman - how do you cope? I'm sounding like any other Brit now, but I've just got no comprehension of how people operate. I went dragon boating yesterday morning (should I admit this in your presence?), temperature probably got up to around 25c by the time we were off the water, I was extremely grateful everytime someone behind me screwed up and deposited large amounts of river on me.
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i'm heading to Northern Austraila in 2 weeks
i have been warned about the sun and the snakes
i'm thinking of wearing flip flops, a sleaveless wife beater T, and one of my kilts
come on try and get me!
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yeah, there is an english lady on another forum that i frequent that has been whining about global warming because it hasn't been raining all the time this year ....
our outdoor thermometer scale goes from -60 to +120, and we dang near need all that range in the course of a year in Montana
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The neighbor's POOL water was 84*F this morning. LOL...
We're headed for the mid 90's today I think. It's not too bad when it's dry but the humidity is what causes the most discomfort. You just get used to it. Why is jolly old England so much cooler? No gulf stream?
Harold, be careful, you don't want things slithering in places you don't like slithering.
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The UK has a relatively mild climate in part due to the gulfstream as I understand it. I live on a more northerly latitude than all the states but Alaska.
Can't begin to make analyses based on global weather trends, but it has been reasonably dry here of late. Not as dry as some stats would suggest, but dry nonetheless.
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I'm pretty impervious to high temps as long as I have water to drink.
Now cold weather is another thing entirely. When the temps get much below 25degrees (farenheit), I pretty much shut down.
Chris
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So nowt means "nothing"?
Owt is to Nowt what Aught is to Naught. Best as I can explain it, anyway...
I know what you mean, Iain. I'm sure people weren't as hysterical about weather and temperature when we were kids (I think we're roughly the same age).
Yesterday, I went round a local music festival with a friend who seemed convinced that her children were going to die of sunstroke or cancer if she exposed them to direct sunlight. (But then, she is mental... ) Had to wonder if she'd inadvertantly given birth to Mogwai rather than children...
"Brightlight!! Brightlight!!"
Personally, I've got lousey circulation so I much prefer hot weather to cold. I'm sure we'll be back to "overcast" and "drizzle" before you know it, though!
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As Michael Flanders once observed about the English summer:
"It's almost summer again. Missed it last year - I was in the bathroom."
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Owt is to Nowt what Aught is to Naught...
Or summat...
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Dragon boat...
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I've seen that picture before, but I only just noticed the woman on top of the dragon. Apparently in some traditions you can be the first to the line and still lose if that person fails to snatch a flag suspended at the finish line. They've got a good bow wave going, although they don't have a 'well oiled machine' look about them.
It's a sport I'm only dabbling in right now, did a race for my brothers company a fortnight ago and went along to an open session yesterday. Paddled with a mixed crew, a mixture of gender and experience. Right now my traps are sore, my lats are sore, my spinal erectors are sore and I have a bruised bottom. It was good though.
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DRy? Did someone say, "Dry"? Hey, Terlingua's had seven-tenths of one-as-in-uno inch of rain since last early September. It's been so dry that the quail coveys haven't really broken up into pairs to go do the egg-and-quail-chick thing. Saw a coyote running down the bed of Terlingua Creek, with a cottonwood tree in hot pursuit.
But it's cooling down some six to ten degrees these next ten days, per
http://www.intellicast.com/IcastPage/LoadPage.aspx?seg=LocalWeather&loc=ustxct25463&product=Forecast&prodgrp=Forecasts&prodnav=none
That's a helluva URL if the whole thing prints out. http://www.intellicast.com and type in my ZIP code, 79852.
Anyhow, I was seeing 108 to 112 at my house, in May and June. Saw a coyote chasing a jackrabbit, and they were both walkin' ral slow.
, Art
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It's a Chinese thing that seems to have become an international sport. American high schools have crews, and I think the Canadians are big into it. The boat in that picture is more flashy the ones I've been in - http://www.heurist.freeserve.co.uk/main/Pictures/dragon/ - the second picture shows the kind of boats I've been in, and the first shows the exact place that I've been getting in and out of the water.
Art - looks like we both have some thunderstorms on the way.
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- Temperatures over 25C (77F) Instantly people start to assume that they are going to die of heat stroke.
I'm really beginning to think that air conditioning is addictive. Stay in it too much and you lose your ability to deal with normal summer temperatures.
And if you get it too cold, your body thinks winter is coming on and starts preparing accordingly. Take a look at the human dumplings waddling around the shopping malls and you'll see what I mean...
- NF
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Down in Florida there are what we called "air conditioning hermits". They never venture outside, they have everything delivered: food, clean laundry, etc. They usually have this pasty white complexion. I could never understand why someone would work all their lives, move to Florida when they retire and never go outside again because it's so friggin hot. What's the sense? But I agree with you NF. If you spend most of your time in the AC you lose acclimation to heat. I worked on the stuff all my life but only recently started using it. Why? Because I wanted to stay acclimated to the heat, I had to work in it all day. Same with the cold.
Funny, The Weather Channel was JUST talking about the big heat wave hitting England. They expect temps in the upper 80's and the last time this happened ~27,000 perished there because of it. Here upper 80's is perfect summer weather. Strange planet we live on.
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27,000 sounds a bit of an exaggeration. In the same year that Paris had those famous deaths Britain experienced something like 2,000 'additional' deaths, but not to sound harsh, the heat and the cold merely tend to accelerate things for some older folk short of full-on exposure or heat exhaustion.
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Maybe I didn't hear the number right. I'll keep a lookout to see if they run the clip again. Seemed awful high to me too. You think we would have heard more about it if it was that severe. Stay cool!
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I'm really beginning to think that air conditioning is addictive. Stay in it too much and you lose your ability to deal with normal summer temperatures.
I recall, before my Dad installed AC in our house, I had a lot more tolerance for heat than the other kids at school. Now, I can't stand to be hot.
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own in Florida there are what we called "air conditioning hermits". They never venture outside, they have everything delivered: food, clean laundry, etc. They usually have this pasty white complexion. I could never understand why someone would work all their lives, move to Florida when they retire and never go outside again because it's so friggin hot.
I have some friends in Va Beach like that, though they're not quite as extreme (they at least go out to get food, laundry, etc). However, we went to the Outer Banks one summer and it was tough getting them outside for more than a couple hours at a time.
I recall, before my Dad installed AC in our house, I had a lot more tolerance for heat than the other kids at school.
Funny you mention that... When I had a VW Beetle without AC, I could tool around all summer without feeling particularly hot, but now, I have to have the AC on and cooling as soon as I get in the car.
BTW, I just got back from a 16 mile bike ride (road) while towing my daughter in a Burley trailer. Current temp is 86degF and humidity is 61%. I drank about 60oz of water during the ride. I made darn sure Abby drank water periodically. The water was back there with her, but I stopped every 2-3 miles and had her drink some while I watched.
Chris
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Nowt is a northern thing - 'Bread with nowt taken out' is a famous slogan.
Naught?
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280 plus, maybe your figure is from one of the other european countries that got hit with that same heat wave. I recall grotesque figures reported from France and Spain.
As Ian pointed out you have to put a skeptical perspective on figures of deaths reported. While having 2,000 additional deaths amongst elderly and other medically sensitive people is relevant, you'll rarely see the same news hype following any such events that deaths amongst such people in the following months declined, because those teetering on the brink already died in the heat wave (or flu epidemic or whatever).
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I watched for the same clip and it never came around exactly the same again. I'm thinking MAYBE they said 2,700 but I was still surprsied at the number given that those temps are not considered life threatening here in the US. I never realized Britain was so high up in the latitudes either. I always thought they were like directly east across the "pond" from where I am (CT). Here, for an official "heat wave", we need at least 3 days of 90*F + .
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I'm in Georgia, at the moment. 2nd marriage; the BossLady & I each have our own micro-empires. We're back and forth between South Jawgia and SW Tay-ux-ess. Terlingua is hot and dry in the summer; Thomasville is very warm and humid. Hey, summer in the south.
Age is a factor in heat tolerance. I've noticed that during the last ten years, my onw tolerance is reduced.
Hey, if the Comanche Indians were smart enough to go north in the summer and south in the winter, it seems to me that they were at least as smart as birds. Shame today's folks aren't even up to "bird-brain".
, Art
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I drove through Quartzsite AZ last weekend on my way to Prescott. 112 F.
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Shame today's folks aren't even up to "bird-brain".
Waddaya mean? Why just the other day I followed a Cadillac with a Florida plate and a little white head just baaarrrely sticking up over the top of the steering wheel. It was doing about 20 in a 35. Oh, that would be a SNOW bird brain!
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Can't take the heat at all. Last time I was really sick, was a year ago on a boat in 100+ weather.
Cant wait for it to fall below 0 (thats -18C to you), and snow to pile up over my head though.
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Whining about the weather? *snicker* If we in Indiana were allowed that womanly pasttime, it is all we would do.
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Hey, if the Comanche Indians were smart enough to go north in the summer and south in the winter, it seems to me that they were at least as smart as birds. Shame today's folks aren't even up to "bird-brain".
, Art
Even the Texas Indians who were permanent to the area spent their summer days moving really slow or sleeping, along the deep shade of the creek banks I'll bet.
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Send your weasley countrymen here.
I just finished (mostly) mowing the grass at my parent's house. Full sun, temperature in the high 80s, and humidity pretty much off the scale.
I feel like an old dishrag.
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I know that feeling. I hope you won't all think less of me if I admit to being somewhat prone to being a sweaty oik. That's my problem with hot weather, I have to peel clothes off, I stick to car seats and you can wring my shoes out. The nice thing is that this weather is so uncommon that I can largely refuse to engage in non-essential manual labour on the grounds that it is too darned hot.
It seems a shame to complain about weather we rarely experience at home, and often pay money to experience abroad.
On a totally different topic, I'm feeling proud of my contribution to the BBC Have Your Say debate on North Korea - 5th most recommended comment. This must mean that I kick ass.
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we finally saw rain yesterday at my house for the first time in 2 months. It rained earlier in the week a few miles away, and across the Metroplex (over in Foat Wuth) I heard it rained awhile back.
I think we're still down about a foot or so for the year. Not nearly as bad as Art, but hey, everybody knows Terlingua is in what passes for a Taumalipan/Sonoran desert.
We're mowing the lakes around here.
Of course, standard equipment on a bass boat in east Texas is a chainsaw and a an ATV. No well-equipped one gets off the trailer without at least one of each. The chainsaw is to cut away the fallen trees and the ATV is to pull it through the rocky parts of the lake where the grass isn't slick enough for the boat to glide over.
Dallas has had several weeks of level orange ozone days, with humidity in the 80% range and temperatures in the mid 90's. I'm kinda used to it, though. I never trusted air I couldn't drink.
Then there's Houston, where plastic rusts.
Dallas is only miserable. Houston is oppressive. Wouldn't live anywhere else for the world.
Regards,
Rabbit.
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First rain in Dallas in months??? WTF???
It did nothing but rain while I was down there!!! Oh, well, perfect timing.
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This human dumpling's auto A/C is out, and I've been bumming a ride to work on occasion to avoid the Memphis heat and humidity. I suppose the heat is helping me sweat off a few pounds, but I ain't diggin' it. I get to fix my air next weekend as I will have gotten a paycheck by then, but, dammit, that was gonna be gun money! Ah, well. C'est la vie. [/whine]
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we finally saw rain yesterday at my house for the first time in 2 months. It rained earlier in the week a few miles away, and across the Metroplex (over in Foat Wuth) I heard it rained awhile back.
I think we're still down about a foot or so for the year. Not nearly as bad as Art, but hey, everybody knows Terlingua is in what passes for a Taumalipan/Sonoran desert.
We're mowing the lakes around here.
Of course, standard equipment on a bass boat in east Texas is a chainsaw and a an ATV. No well-equipped one gets off the trailer without at least one of each. The chainsaw is to cut away the fallen trees and the ATV is to pull it through the rocky parts of the lake where the grass isn't slick enough for the boat to glide over.
Dallas has had several weeks of level orange ozone days, with humidity in the 80% range and temperatures in the mid 90's. I'm kinda used to it, though. I never trusted air I couldn't drink.
Then there's Houston, where plastic rusts.
Dallas is only miserable. Houston is oppressive. Wouldn't live anywhere else for the world.
Regards,
Rabbit.
We got two inches at the north end of cedar creek lake yesterday
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This human dumpling's auto A/C is out, and I've been bumming a ride to work on occasion to avoid the Memphis heat and humidity. I suppose the heat is helping me sweat off a few pounds, but I ain't diggin' it. I get to fix my air next weekend as I will have gotten a paycheck by then, but, dammit, that was gonna be gun money! Ah, well. C'est la vie. [/whine]
I guess I don't know what the Memphis heat is like, but honestly I prefer windows to air. About the only time the air gets used is going down the highway with other people in the car with me.
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Memphis heat=imagine being locked in a trunk in downtown Detroit overnight in a carwash in August.
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The heat and humidity finally broke here in Central Pennsylvania. The temperature/humidity went from about 93/70 on Tuesday to 80/40 yesterday. Today its a little more humid, but still not bad. Hell, last night it was actually kind of chilly, as the temperature dropped into the high 50s.
I'm schvitzing pretty heavily, though, as I just hung blinds on the side porch (sun BEATS into the living room during the afternoon if they're not up) and pruned the pear tree.
Now I'm going to start dinner, a special pot roast recipe.
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Yeah, the TWO thunderstorms that came through here Monday night split up and passed east and west of Casa Del Fireant. I saw lots of nice lightning, but it was all dry within a mile radius of my house. At least I had enough rain Tuesday to mess up the windshield while driving out to see the fireworks in Richardson.
I decided that instead of trying to please my neighbors and covertly water my lawn at 0300 like they do, I'll just wait, pave it and paint it green. That way I can mow it with a leaf blower.
I don't think it got over 93 here today, either. Had a cold front move through last night.
Badger, you were simply in the right place at the right time. 3 miles east and you could have played sauna instead of worrying about your 'do getting wet.
Regards,
Rabbit.
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Yeah, the TWO thunderstorms that came through here Monday night split up and passed east and west of Casa Del Fireant. I saw lots of nice lightning, but it was all dry within a mile radius of my house. At least I had enough rain Tuesday to mess up the windshield while driving out to see the fireworks in Richardson.
I decided that instead of trying to please my neighbors and covertly water my lawn at 0300 like they do, I'll just wait, pave it and paint it green. That way I can mow it with a leaf blower.
I don't think it got over 93 here today, either. Had a cold front move through last night.
Badger, you were simply in the right place at the right time. 3 miles east and you could have played sauna instead of worrying about your 'do getting wet.
Regards,
Rabbit.
According to the guys on the "opie n anthony' show, that's popular in Italian neighborhoods back east. I'd never heard of it before I heard them joking about it.
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I'm digging this up because the complaining has begun again, and this time I'm inclined to more sympathy.
Monday - 30C - 29% humidity
Tuesday - 33C - 24% humidity
Wednesday - 33C - 26% humidity
That's the forecast, 33C is 91F. It's more than I can deal with, not because it's extreme but because it is unusual for the UK. I'm happiest when the temperature ranges between 5 and 25 degrees celsius. The fan is on and all I can think about is showering.
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We're supposed to be getting a "heat wave" here on the East Coast. High 90's for part of the week. I don't mind the heat so much, it's actually one of the things I miss the most about Texas but the humidity right here is disgusting. And yes, the people here are complaining as well. Pansies.
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Iain, is air conditioning common over there?
Dannyboy, you've got to be kidding about missing the Texas heat. But maybe you weren't in a uniform with long sleeves every day (especially the chemical-protective type).
In Saint Louis, we've had 99-101 degree highs for the past few days, with more on the way. Might get a break on Friday, if there's a thunderstorm. It has been uncharacteristically dry, though, here in the confluence of the Mississippi and Missouri Rivers.
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Dannyboy, you've got to be kidding about missing the Texas heat. But maybe you weren't in a uniform with long sleeves every day (especially the chemical-protective type).
Au contraire, mon frere. My last 2 years in the Army were at Ft. Hood. Then there was the 3+ years at Ft. Sill. I love hot weather.
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Workplaces are often air conditioned, well more up-scale establishments usually are. Shops, shopping centres, supermarkets are air-conditioned. A/C is very uncommon in homes though, really only a few days a year that justify it.
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Dannyboy, the heat has gotten into your head. Please seek therapy. I was 2-5 Cav. You?
Iain, I guess we Yankie Doodles should be glad for British wimpiness in this regard - it worked to our advantage about 230 years ago. Didn't slow y'all down in India, though.
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Jeez, last night it was still 96 deg at nine oclock. And we were happy about it!
I've heard dad talk about a time (before MY time) when they traveled through Death Valley during the dead of summer. He said the thermometer at the Furnace Creek ranch was hovering darn near 130. He said it was the same feeling you get when you open up your oven and get that hot blast of air in your face. Only it never ends - he said the low temp while they were there was around 100.
On the upside, swamp coolers work really, really well when the relative humidity is friggin' ZERO!!
Brad
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I'm about to drag a mattress downstairs and sleep on the floor in the lounge with the french windows open. Way too hot upstairs.
Hottest I've ever experienced was 40C in a Spanish desert. I'd taken my shoes off in the car, when we stopped I stepped out of the car onto the tarmac, and then right back into the car again. Amazing to watch the thermometer on that trip, out of the desert at 1500 when it was 40C and then off to Iruna where the early evening temperature was 15C.
Can't begin to imagine how people function above 40C or so, I'm a lazy sweaty sod at 32C.
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..Can't begin to imagine how people function above 40C or so, I'm a lazy sweaty sod at 32C.
Well I do it every night during the summer, at work, with 100% humity for short periods of time. I have 5 or 6 work stations that range from about 95 to 120 with 60-100% humidity and a control room which is about 60 degrees. After about 15 minutes in the 120 degree temps, the dryer 95 degree air is o.k. Usually I go to the control room and guzzle quarts of cold water and wait intil my soaking clothes have gotten me shivering before going back to work.
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Dannyboy, the heat has gotten into your head. Please seek therapy.
I was 2-5 Cav. You?
2-20 FA 4ID, other side of post. Now, don't get me wrong. I didn't really enjoy being in the field in 90-100 degree temps but it sure as hell beat being in the field in below freezing temps. I look at it like this, I can walk into an air conditioned room/building/whatever and instantly FEEL better. The same can't really be said for walking inside from the freezing cold. You're still going to feel cold for a while. That's how it works for me, anyway. I friggin hate the cold...with a passion.
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I hate both, high heat and temps below freezing. Not a good thing for a commercial HVAC guy, lol.
We had 97F today with a "feels like" heat factor of 110.
Spent ten hours on various roofs today repairing commercial a/c units.
Normally I don't like the heat but function fine, today was just a little too much. Measured 107 in the shade on one roof today. Lost my appetite and drank Gaterade all day. Ate this morning but that is it, just too dang hot to eat.
My house is cool, the a/c has been on for over a month now.
This line of work ruins the summer for me.
It is still 85 with 70% humidity at 11:15pm as I write.