I predict it being called early by several outlets for the President in an attempt to dissuade west coast voters.
Sadly, it seems like that's been Standard Operational Procedure for the "forward leaning" MSM outlets regarding Democrat candidates for the last several elections.
It's interesting though, that in my little world of liberals here, yesterday I heard several talking in the hall at work that tomorrow would be "the end of the world as we know it". Seems like even the staunchest libs are worried about today's results.
I think unless one of them clearly gets a clear majority of swing states early on, that this will get ugly and drag out. I also think this election has a good chance of one candidate winning the popular vote, and the other winning the Electoral College (which will really get ugly).
I think the decision will be dragged out because the NJ/NY axis will call foul due to the hurricane and its effects on polling places and voter access.
I think the decision will be dragged out because the NJ/NY axis will call foul due to the hurricane and its effects on polling places and voter access.
They can cry foul. Their electoral votes won't make any difference. It won't drag out the process even if they want to keep voting open till January 1.I'll stay on the confident side and just say that Mitt's electoral numbers will mean those states don't matter in the final count.
I think the decision will be dragged out because the NJ/NY axis will call foul due to the hurricane and its effects on polling places and voter access.
9pm EST.
Unless this is a landslide, and probably even then, a whole lot of people are not going to believe or accept the outcome. Elections don't change cultures, they merely reflect the realities. One of the realities is the magnitude of the mendacity and manipulation that now constitutes American "public life."
That goes both ways. Lots of "conservatives" refused to believe the legitimacy of the President getting elected.
Iono. There's still lots of birther screaming to this day
That goes both ways. Lots of "conservatives" refused to believe the legitimacy of the President getting elected.
It does, and what means to me is that we now live in a society where we can't trust much of what is said or published. That is not a great basis for a free nation or a constitutional republic. One doubts it will last: either we will get more free and more honest, or we will devolve into complete suppressive tyranny.
It says to me that most people don't realize how *expletive deleted*ed the represenatitive democratic republic is as a form of modern government. Mob elections for mob rule = unsatisfactory results for the remaining 49%.
. . . we now live in a society where we can't trust much of what is said or published.
Well, I'm wrong about the time. At least it looks like I'm right about Virginia. I just don't understand how Virginia has come to its senses while Ohio and Pennsylvania have not.
Romney is sunk.
That was the consensus after the primaries, I don't believe it ever really changed. You don't beat a big government liberal with a big government "conservative".
I wish I could change my vote to "Yes, we'll know today." Romney is done. Four more years of Obama. I'm going to bed.
NBC is calling WA, OR and CA for President Obama. Polls just closed on the West Coast.
So they said to one another, “Let us appoint a leader and return to Egypt.”Numbers 14.4
Looks like I got this one wrong. More wrong than I could have imagined.
Time to hunker down and weather the storm.
I hope those people who voted "anybody but Romney" can live with their choice.
Since it didn't matter anyway, I wish I would have voted Gary Johnson
Instead, I wasted a vote on a RINO who should have easily won this election but couldn't, nominated by a spineless party
I will never... Never vote republican again
Well that didn't take long
This loss is the GOPs fault. Not people who voted their principles
Since it didn't matter anyway, I wish I would have voted Gary Johnson
Instead, I wasted a vote on a RINO who should have easily won this election but couldn't, nominated by a spineless party
I will never... Never vote republican again
Do you think maybe if those that had said that 4 years ago had voted, maybe Romney might have won?
Think.
Would it really matter all that much?
There aren't too many differences between romney and obama to start with, I find it amusing that republicans pinned their hopes on a candidate that passed socialist medicine before obama did.
Would it really matter all that much?There were plenty of differences between Romney & Obama. Romney has actually RUN a business or two and understands how to make them work while Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand -- he's NEVER run a lemonade stand!
There aren't too many differences between romney and obama to start with, I find it amusing that republicans pinned their hopes on a candidate that passed socialist medicine before obama did.
I went to the polls, held my bile down and voted for romney with nothing more than 'hope' that he wouldn't screw things up worse than obama, and had no illusions that he'd fix or even want to fix the problems caused by obama.
In WI, we ended up with a rino candidate for senate because the party of stupid was too dumb to double down on another candidate cut from the same solid conservative bar stock as Ron Johnson, so now we present to America an empty headed whack-job socialist for a senator in tammy baldwin. [barf] [barf]I feel a lot more let down about that than obama winning.
...this country made it through a Great Depression and a World War.
There were plenty of differences between Romney & Obama. Romney has actually RUN a business or two and understands how to make them work while Obama couldn't run a lemonade stand -- he's NEVER run a lemonade stand!
Romney's health care plan applied to a few % of the people and had no new taxes, Obama's applies to everyone and has 21 new taxes.
Look, I'm too pissed off right now to continue. Just understand how wrong you are in my opinion.
It's a little pointless to get into a deeper pissing constest as we're both in the same boat -- and it is sinking.
Yes there are plenty of differences- romney had better hair, romney would probably appoint a couple of Roberts clones to SCOTUS, romney was from massachusetts which is known to be a lot more conserv... wait, nevermind....
Repeat this mantra: The party of stupid only wins when it nominates conservatives.
I'm consoling myself with the confirmation that the guy I voted for in 1992 turned out to be right. He predicted the current state of things, nobody wanted to hear it, and he was right in ways that are still being fulfilled.
"But nobody is listening."
Still true today.
Pardon my lack of recollection, but I was only 14 back then. '92 was obviously Bush I vs Clinton, with Perot as a spoiler. Was it Perot, and what speech is it you are referring to? Genuinely curious.
If it is not possible to change people's ideas, then we are all screwed.
It also barely made it through a civil war. I just hope there's not another, but the odds against it get slimmer every day.
If it is not possible to change people's ideas, then we are all screwed.
To have ideas to change at all requires one to think. Takers do not think for the most part. At best they emote.
If you gennuinely think that 50% of your own countrymen need only to be thought of as some kind of evil, and stupid, 'takers' that cannot be reasoned and bargained with, you do not deserve political victory.
If you gennuinely think that 50% of your own countrymen need only to be thought of as some kind of evil, and stupid, 'takers' that cannot be reasoned and bargained with, you do not deserve political victory.
And indeed, Romney literally thought this way, and did not deserve political victory, and did not win.
And people like Romney do not deserve to win. It is just sad that Obama was the other candidate.
If you gennuinely think that 50% of your own countrymen need only to be thought of as some kind of evil, and stupid, 'takers' that cannot be reasoned and bargained with, you do not deserve political victory.
And indeed, Romney literally thought this way, and did not deserve political victory, and did not win.
And people like Romney do not deserve to win. It is just sad that Obama was the other candidate.
If you gennuinely think that 50% of your own countrymen need only to be thought of as some kind of evil, and stupid, 'takers' that cannot be reasoned and bargained with, you do not deserve political victory.
And indeed, Romney literally thought this way, and did not deserve political victory, and did not win.
And people like Romney do not deserve to win. It is just sad that Obama was the other candidate.
That war started in the '60s. Headline: We lost.
Romney's loss is perhaps the surest proof that he was right.