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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Jamisjockey on November 07, 2012, 09:12:03 AM
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How did the senate and house races go down?
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Republicans hold the house (lose 2 seats). Democrats pick up 2 seats in the Senate.
Makes no sense.
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Republicans hold the house (lose 2 seats). Democrats pick up 2 seats in the Senate.
Makes no sense.
Sure it does. The American people are retarded.
I just read a quote from Harry Reid that the American people "rejected obstructionisim". Um, the Senate has been refusing to vote on pretty much every bill from the house.
:facepalm:
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I kind of wish the R's would have lost the House also.
The next two if not four years will the MSM and Dems scapegoating the House for all that is wrong in the country.
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Sure it does. The American people are retarded.
I just read a quote from Harry Reid that the American people "rejected obstructionisim". Um, the Senate has been refusing to vote on pretty much every bill from the house.
:facepalm:
Just for kicks last month I read Animal Farm and 1984. The techniques for controlling the masses have been known for ages. Orwell did a brilliant job of showing us how those techniques would be used in a more modern setting.
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Republicans hold the house (lose 2 seats). Democrats pick up 2 seats in the Senate.
Makes no sense.
Wait, what? When I went to bed last night, the newz was showing Republican gains in the House. The looters really are winning. Where do I go to turn in the keys to my house and car for redistribution?
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Google has a good page for the results.
http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results
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I might actually email all the R's in the house encouraging them to roll over and give Obama and the Dems all they ask.
Lets get this party started.
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New republican up and coming favorite here (Mia Love) failed to unseat the incumbent democrat congressman (Jim Matheson). The longterm incumbent Senator Hatch retained his seat, I was greatly displeased Hatch didn't lose the primaries. As to Matheson, he's at least a DINO, so mostly votes conservatively except when he lets Pelosi bully him into something.
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Wait, what? When I went to bed last night, the newz was showing Republican gains in the House. The looters really are winning. Where do I go to turn in the keys to my house and car for redistribution?
Republicans also now hold 30 governorships. I'm just confused, the message from last night was bad and muddled.
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New republican up and coming favorite here (Mia Love) failed to unseat the incumbent democrat congressman (Jim Matheson). The longterm incumbent Senator Hatch retained his seat, I was greatly displeased Hatch didn't lose the primaries. As to Matheson, he's at least a DINO, so mostly votes conservatively except when he lets Pelosi bully him into something.
When I lived in Utah is when they tried to redistrict Matheson out of office. Only D I've ever seen run commercials bragging about how much he voted with Bush!
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When I lived in Utah is when they tried to redistrict Matheson out of office. Only D I've ever seen run commercials bragging about how much he voted with Bush!
They just tried to gerrymander redistrict him out of office again this year. Didn't work this time either. Yeah, the commercials were similar this year. Lots of republican endorsements, etc. Surprised he makes it through the democratic primaries.
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There are two countries. Old news, huh? Let's face what that really means.
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There are two countries. Old news, huh? Let's face what that really means.
Enlighten us, oh wise one! In plain language with less parable, please, for I am but a simpleton!
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No, you're not, JJ. There are those who believe we "adapt" to the New Normal, and those who think we withdraw from it. Those are our options. The New Normal was orchestrated since the '60s and it is now playing at full volume. There is no way to honorably adapt to it without losing what is left of our liberty as a people. If that's wisdom, take it for free and run with it. I have talked for years on this forum about the momentum of "demographics and culture." You saw that in full Monty last night.
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English please.
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Enlighten us, oh wise one! In plain language with less parable, please, for I am but a simpleton!
No parables. We cannot co-exist with the Hard Left. Not if we want to be free. Some will fight, some will demand a divorce, some will emigrate, some will go underground, some will "convert."
I'm sure you can add more options. And I'm also sure that despite your japes you actually agree with me.
What came last night just came a little earlier than some of us thought, but we needed a hard shock and we got it.
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Yeah, but how compelling is the story of a black, female Mormon as a part of the Black Caucus?
Damnit. She was a sure winner, I thought.
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Parables? English?
You do understand me. I know you do. Those of us who want liberty need to form a nation that believes in it. We had one and we lost it. Face facts. I realize the gravity and magnitude of this, but it is what it is. The rest is rationalization and escapism.
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No parables. We cannot co-exist with the Hard Left. Not if we want to be free. Some will fight, some will demand a divorce, some will emigrate, some will go underground, some will "convert."
I'm sure you can add more options. And I'm also sure that despite your japes you actually agree with me.
What came last night just came a little earlier than some of us thought, but we needed a hard shock and we got it.
Thats all I was looking for.
Don't consider this an attack:
I'd sure like to see specifics on how you think those things will come about.
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I might actually email all the R's in the house encouraging them to roll over and give Obama and the Dems all they ask.
Lets get this party started.
i'm to the point where i really don't give a #$%^, as long as we balance the budget. big chunks being taken from earnings is a great deterent for the next election.
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i'm to the point where i really don't give a #$%^, as long as we balance the budget. big chunks being taken from earnings is a great deterent for the next election.
Letting them have their way with taxes so that they can fail miserably might be interesting. Because there is no way it would work, there simply is no long enough of others people money with the economy this far in the shitter and these spending levels.
Though, it might have minimal effect. The people that kept the narcissist in chief in the white house last night, by and large, aren't the ones that would feel the effects of this. They'd just be on the other end with their free crap in jeopardy.
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With almost 90 percent of the 435 House races called by The Associated Press, Republicans had won 224 seats and were leading in 15 more. For a majority in the chamber, a party must control 218 seats. Democrats had won 170 seats and were leading in 25 others.
It appeared likely that the two parties' margins in the new Congress would closely resemble the current tally. Republicans control the chamber by 240 to 190, plus five vacancies: two seats once controlled by the GOP and three by Democrats. Early this morning, it remained in doubt whether either party would ultimately have a net gain.
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/11/election_news_republicans_keep.html
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At the beginning of the night, Republicans needed a net pick-up of at least four seats to turn a 53-47 deficit in the upper chamber of Congress into a majority of 51 seats or more.
As of the latest posting of this article, however, the tally actually reflects a net swing of 2 votes in the Democrats’ favor with only a few close races yet to be decided.
Among the 33 seats contested, 21 have been held by Democrats, 10 by Republicans and 2 by independents who typically caucused with the Democrats.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/control-of-senate-on-pins-and-needles/
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So, in reality, we're in the exact same position as we were before. Gridlock is our friend for at least 2 more years.
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No, you're not, JJ. There are those who believe we "adapt" to the New Normal, and those who think we withdraw from it. Those are our options. The New Normal was orchestrated since the '60s and it is now playing at full volume. There is no way to honorably adapt to it without losing what is left of our liberty as a people. If that's wisdom, take it for free and run with it. I have talked for years on this forum about the momentum of "demographics and culture." You saw that in full Monty last night.
There's a lot of truth to this. A lot of folks are saying it's evidence we've hit the "tipping point" of takers vs. producers going over 51% etc. What some on less genteel forums are referring to as the "FSA" or Free S*** Army.
However, I do think there's a few unique things that contributed to this election that went above and beyond the tipping pont and we are still at the 47% level there.
Race was a factor. One can't look at the various YouTube vids of urban blacks being interviewed about Obama, and having all of Obama's policies switched with the Republican challenger etc. and them agreeing vociferously. Then there was the black preacher movement against Obama over gay marriage and abortion. And the blue-collar unions just felt the GM/UAW bailout was a bigger boon than the Obama downturn in the economy and attack on the energy sector was. Then there was simple Incumbent inertia devoid of any policy considerations whatsoever. And I suspect that folks who simply thought turning out our "first black POTUS" after only one term would "look bad" were a factor too.
None of these are significant on their own, but I bet they added up to a point or three in at least some of those swing states.
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There's a lot of truth to this. A lot of folks are saying it's evidence we've hit the "tipping point" of takers vs. producers going over 51% etc. What some on less genteel forums are referring to as the "FSA" or Free S*** Army.
However, I do think there's a few unique things that contributed to this election that went above and beyond the tipping pont and we are still at the 47% level there.
Race was a factor. One can't look at the various YouTube vids of urban blacks being interviewed about Obama, and having all of Obama's policies switched with the Republican challenger etc. and them agreeing vociferously. Then there was the black preacher movement against Obama over gay marriage and abortion. And the blue-collar unions just felt the GM/UAW bailout was a bigger boon than the Obama downturn in the economy and attack on the energy sector was. Then there was simple Incumbent inertia devoid of any policy considerations whatsoever. And I suspect that folks who simply thought turning out our "first black POTUS" after only one term would "look bad" were a factor too.
None of these are significant on their own, but I bet they added up to a point or three in at least some of those swing states.
My first exposure to the "FSA" term. Interesting. I agree with you, but I will add that I don't have any reason to think the turnout trends which supported Obama will reverse materially by 2016. They will accelerate. So, the FSA vote will be established at 51% or more in 2016. All they need is a champion with sufficient charm and rhetorical ability to sway the media, and we will continue the current slide unabated.
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back to my theory that if you take money from the .gov, you lose your right to vote!
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Okay, I am going to say it, since we're hearing warped echoes of it in the communications ether and in big media:
Whites--yes, the much maligned--are still 70 per cent of the electorate and probably have 90 per cent of the wealth (and skills). Why would they agree to participate in a political process that compels them to subsidize people who not only claim their labor and treasure but contemn them? Is it good will? Is it cowardice? is it ignorance? Is it indoctrination?
And, secondly, how long will this continue?
I am asking this as point of cultural curiosity, nothing more...
I think last Tuesday may be a wake-up call for a lot of people.
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No parables. We cannot co-exist with the Hard Left. Not if we want to be free. Some will fight, some will demand a divorce, some will emigrate, some will go underground, some will "convert."
Thats all I was looking for.
Don't consider this an attack:
I'd sure like to see specifics on how you think those things will come about.
Just look at the history of Germany 1918-1945.....a very interesting political evolution....remember, Hitler was elected too....