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Title: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: MicroBalrog on November 10, 2012, 02:22:37 AM
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2011/195555.htm

As we see here, global terrorist attacks declined from 14,000 to about 10,000 in the past few years, and global terrorist deaths declined from 22,700 to 12,533 in the same time period.

More hilariously, over 50% of terrorist attacks fail to kill anyone at all.

Clearly, humanity is doing *something* right.

Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 10, 2012, 08:19:02 AM
In regards to the last few threads you've started; thanks for trying to cheer us up.  =)
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 10, 2012, 11:17:06 AM
Lets throw a little doubt at the source.
Is it possible that the US .gov has redefined what constitutes "terrorism"? They still refuse to call the Ft. Hood massacre anything but workplace violence.
It wasn't until they were faced with overwhelming evidence they couldn't suppress, and backlash from the right at home that they labeled the Benghazi attack as terrorism.

I have zero trust in any stats coming from my government. whether it be crime, terrorism or just the weather, they can't be trusted.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: seeker_two on November 10, 2012, 11:20:29 AM
^^^^^ This......
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: TommyGunn on November 10, 2012, 11:51:53 AM
This explains why AQ is ensconcing itself across Northern Africa, setting up training camps in Libya.
 ???

Yeah.....I'd sooner believe in the tooth faerie.


Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 10, 2012, 12:39:26 PM
So, since they claim terrorism is on the decline, that means we can disband DHS and TSA now, right?  :P
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: MicroBalrog on November 10, 2012, 12:40:21 PM
So, since they claim terrorism is on the decline, that means we can disband DHS and TSA now, right?  :P

No, no.

I think you don't get it.

This clearly means DHS and TSA have proved their usefulness and need to have their funding doubled. Or, you know, tripled.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: MicroBalrog on November 10, 2012, 12:42:33 PM
Lets throw a little doubt at the source.
Is it possible that the US .gov has redefined what constitutes "terrorism"? They still refuse to call the Ft. Hood massacre anything but workplace violence.
It wasn't until they were faced with overwhelming evidence they couldn't suppress, and backlash from the right at home that they labeled the Benghazi attack as terrorism.

I have zero trust in any stats coming from my government. whether it be crime, terrorism or just the weather, they can't be trusted.

This doesn't constitute 'throwing doubt at the source'.

Do you have any link to any DoS documents showing what definitions of terrorism they used in 2007 and 2011?
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 10, 2012, 01:07:44 PM
Whistling past the graveyard. my friend.  Hunker down, this guy in D.C. wants you dead.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: Tallpine on November 10, 2012, 04:07:50 PM
So, since they claim terrorism is on the decline, that means we can disband DHS and TSA now, right?  :P

Then who would be left to commit terrorism?
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 10, 2012, 06:42:56 PM
Terrorism just changed costume, that's all.  Expensive suits are the vogue now. 
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: agricola on November 12, 2012, 07:38:58 PM
More hilariously, over 50% of terrorist attacks fail to kill anyone at all.

Clearly, humanity is doing *something* right.

I think its more that the other side of things is often quite daft, certainly - for instance - reading about the attack on Malala Yousafzai recently its difficult to see that lot as anything other than incompetent, morally corrupt fools - especially as the decision to go after a fourteen year old kid apparently came from the top. 
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 12, 2012, 10:34:35 PM
This doesn't constitute 'throwing doubt at the source'.

Do you have any link to any DoS documents showing what definitions of terrorism they used in 2007 and 2011?


If you are willing to accept the Ft. Hood attack as work place violence and believe the DoS and Obama's response to the Benghazi attacks as a spontaneous response to a youtube video then I have nothing to offer.
You're welcome to accept DoS proclamations at face value if you want. I'll take it with a healthy double dose of skepticism, doubt and distrust.
If Hillary Clinton tells me the sky is blue I'll check it myself.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 12, 2012, 11:40:00 PM
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2011/195555.htm

As we see here, global terrorist attacks declined from 14,000 to about 10,000 in the past few years, and global terrorist deaths declined from 22,700 to 12,533 in the same time period.

More hilariously, over 50% of terrorist attacks fail to kill anyone at all.

Clearly, humanity is doing *something* right.


Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 12, 2012, 11:41:40 PM
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/crt/2011/195555.htm

As we see here, global terrorist attacks declined from 14,000 to about 10,000 in the past few years, and global terrorist deaths declined from 22,700 to 12,533 in the same time period.

More hilariously, over 50% of terrorist attacks fail to kill anyone at all.

Clearly, humanity is doing *something* right.

Or, to play with your statistics, just about half of terrorist attacks end human life.  Try selling this optimism at Ft. Hood.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: MicroBalrog on November 13, 2012, 01:34:37 AM
I'd like to think that the men and women of the U.S. military understand the concept of ratios and statistics.

Indeed, I know this, or any military action would be totally impossible.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 13, 2012, 09:52:10 AM
Or, to play with your statistics, just about half of terrorist attacks end human life.  Try selling this optimism at Ft. Hood.


Fail.  Ft. Hood was workplace violence
 =|
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: HankB on November 13, 2012, 10:04:44 AM
I thought "terrorist acts" had been redefined as "man-caused disasters" and the "war on terror" had become "overseas contingency operations."

So naturally "terrorism" is declining.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 13, 2012, 10:52:49 AM
Terrorism is just global warming up close and personal. 
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: Tallpine on November 13, 2012, 02:05:05 PM

Fail.  Ft. Hood was workplace violence
 =|

Terrorism is an unlicensed lemonade stand  ;)
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: seeker_two on November 13, 2012, 06:00:19 PM
I thought "terrorist acts" had been redefined as "man-caused disastersprotests against Youtube" and the "war on terror" had become "overseas contingency operations extending our hand in friendship."

So naturally "terrorism" is declining.

FIFY....
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 14, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
Terrorism starts with the hand that rocks the cradle.

All terrorists have moms, and those moms have cultures.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 14, 2012, 11:49:49 AM
Terrorism starts with the hand that rocks the cradle.

All terrorists have moms, and those moms have cultures.

???

The hand that rocks the cradle for a few good men brings us the sum of all fears.  But at the point break, the matrix will not protect the hunted.  We will all be human centipedes.

You speak in too many metaphors and vagueries, longeyes.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 14, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
No, I don't. You will find useful wisdom in "generalities."  Too much useless details and "data" on this forum by too many technocrats.  I've played that game too, professionally, and ultimately it goes nowhere.  We are not going to solve our political problems with "details."

I'm talking about cultures.  Terrorism springs from early education, from cultural practices that include maternal upbringing, the creation of machismo, etc.  

Too much time is spent on this forum discussing the comparative virtues of airframes.  Rock on.  I will continue to say what I think about what I think is important.  The wise ones on this forum have dismissed my remarks on secession for years now, I note in passing, but you may have noticed that what was crazy a few years ago is starting, albeit small and slow, to catch fire.

Or maybe you'd rather talk about .44 mag verus .45 colt?

Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 14, 2012, 07:57:16 PM
Since the 44mag is not available in 1911, your hyperbole is fail.
Title: Re: Global terrorism continues its decline
Post by: longeyes on November 15, 2012, 01:26:44 AM
That's quite a sentence, JJ.  :)