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Title: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Ben on November 13, 2012, 09:45:53 AM
I remember a while back there was this big incident that was a front page story everywhere. Something about maybe Libya and some Ambassador or something? Was it like a scandal or how some Americans at the Consulate were culturally insensitive to some Libyans or something? I think maybe it was something like that. I can't remember though, because the only thing on the front pages now is about some sex scandal and horny Generals.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: roo_ster on November 13, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
It was always about horny generals. 

Best move on, prole, or feel my knout grace your person most vigorously.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: longeyes on November 13, 2012, 10:54:56 AM
Sit back and enjoy the night of the long knives.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Monkeyleg on November 13, 2012, 10:59:52 AM
I can't remember a major story ever having been so completely buried. If there was one, they did a really, really good job of burying it.

The more it's kept in the closet, the more I suspect that it was Obama who gave the stand down order.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: longeyes on November 13, 2012, 11:20:37 AM
Blasphemer.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: SADShooter on November 13, 2012, 12:49:47 PM
I can't remember a major story ever having been so completely buried. If there was one, they did a really, really good job of burying it.

The more it's kept in the closet, the more I suspect that it was Obama who gave the stand down order.

You're joking, right? The man needed his beauty sleep the night before a hop to Vegas for a fundraiser. The act of making a decision would have been utterly exhausting, and is thus inconceivable. I'm certain he uttered a vague platitude to his staff and toddled of to bedfordshire, leaving aides to hold the "body"bags.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Monkeyleg on November 13, 2012, 01:26:25 PM
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You're joking, right? The man needed his beauty sleep the night before a hop to Vegas for a fundraiser. The act of making a decision would have been utterly exhausting, and is thus inconceivable. I'm certain he uttered a vague platitude to his staff and toddled of to bedfordshire, leaving aides to hold the "body"bags.

No, I'm not joking. From what I've read, Obama if anything tends to get in the middle too much. I'm certain that he knew this attack would damage his campaign, and so decided not to heighten its visibility by using force. He probably figured he could blame Libya for lax security. It may also have been a  decision not to have Libya complain to the UN about our forces entering a sovereign country without permission, thus creating an international PR crisis weeks from the election.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: grislyatoms on November 13, 2012, 01:31:42 PM
Who is Ben Ghazi?  =D

It is very telling that it has been buried as deeply as it has.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: SADShooter on November 13, 2012, 01:32:53 PM
I know you're serious, Dick, and probably correct. I was being angrily facetious. =(
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Monkeyleg on November 13, 2012, 02:46:50 PM
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I know you're serious, Dick, and probably correct. I was being angrily facetious.

Sorry. There actually were people who were mad because they thought Obama just went to bed.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: ArfinGreebly on November 13, 2012, 03:02:10 PM

Obama did not "go off to bed."

All the interesting parts of this affair occurred while he was still awake.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Tallpine on November 13, 2012, 05:09:05 PM
Obama did not "go off to bed."

All the interesting parts of this affair occurred while he was still awake.

Sorta like Clinton  :lol:
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: ronnyreagan on November 14, 2012, 06:51:33 PM
Fear not. The Republicans in congress smell blood in the water, the blood of an ambassador no less, I doubt they will let it be forgotten until every drop of policial advantage can be wrung out of the tragedy.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 14, 2012, 07:07:58 PM
Fear not. The Republicans in congress smell blood in the water, the blood of an ambassador no less, I doubt they will let it be forgotten until every drop of policial advantage can be wrung out of the tragedy.


If the Republicans had any of the killer instincts of a shark...
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: makattak on November 14, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Fear not. The Republicans in congress smell blood in the water, the blood of an ambassador no less, I doubt they will let it be forgotten until every drop of policial advantage can be wrung out of the tragedy.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

breathe.... breathe... breathe...

I'm pretty sure the stupid party has proved they have no idea how to take political advantage of a clear direlection of duty by an incompetent president.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Fitz on November 14, 2012, 11:26:09 PM
Yep

The GOP is too *expletive deleted*ing stupid to use this

After all, they played softball and lost what should have been an easy election


SURE is nice that I went against my judgment and voted for the romneybot
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: makattak on November 14, 2012, 11:35:05 PM
SURE is nice that I went against my judgment and voted for the romneybot

On that matter, it actually is a relief. I voted for the best chance to give us more time before the collapse and still lost. Now, my conscience is clear. I voted against the swift collapse AND now I don't have to worry about Romney stabbing us in the back.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: SADShooter on November 16, 2012, 11:54:57 AM
Breaking: Petraeus claimed someone altered original briefing info to remove specific terrorist group references.

http://news.yahoo.com/petraeus-believed-terrorists-behind-libya-attack-145946656--politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/petraeus-believed-terrorists-behind-libya-attack-145946656--politics.html)

Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: roo_ster on November 16, 2012, 01:35:41 PM
On that matter, it actually is a relief. I voted for the best chance to give us more time before the collapse and still lost. Now, my conscience is clear. I voted against the swift collapse AND now I don't have to worry about Romney stabbing us in the back.

This.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Sergeant Bob on November 16, 2012, 06:39:38 PM
Yep

The GOP is too *expletive deleted* stupid to use this

After all, they played softball and lost what should have been an easy election


SURE is nice that I went against my judgment and voted for the romneybot

I did the same. I'm thinking the TEA Party is a better way to affect change than a third party which has almost 0% chance of succeeding.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 16, 2012, 08:56:37 PM
Breaking: Petraeus claimed someone altered original briefing info to remove specific terrorist group references.

http://news.yahoo.com/petraeus-believed-terrorists-behind-libya-attack-145946656--politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/petraeus-believed-terrorists-behind-libya-attack-145946656--politics.html)

Oh snap!
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 16, 2012, 09:04:37 PM
Breaking: Petraeus claimed someone altered original briefing info to remove specific terrorist group references.

http://news.yahoo.com/petraeus-believed-terrorists-behind-libya-attack-145946656--politics.html (http://news.yahoo.com/petraeus-believed-terrorists-behind-libya-attack-145946656--politics.html)



Am I the only cynical bastard that interpreted that as just a way so that Obama can claim he didn't know and Petraeus can claim he did his job, all while the mysterious report-altering person remains completely unknown and therefore no one actually has to take responsibility?
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: SADShooter on November 16, 2012, 09:24:13 PM
Am I the only cynical bastard that interpreted that as just a way so that Obama can claim he didn't know and Petraeus can claim he did his job, all while the mysterious report-altering person remains completely unknown and therefore no one actually has to take responsibility?

Umm...err...no. =|
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: RocketMan on November 16, 2012, 11:53:07 PM
I'm thinking the TEA Party is a better way to affect change than a third party which has almost 0% chance of succeeding.

The Tea Party is fading away as a factor in American politics.   They had little to no effect in this last go around.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: TommyGunn on November 17, 2012, 12:06:46 AM
The Tea Party is fading away as a factor in American politics.   They had little to no effect in this last go around.
Yea..... apparantly many people have come to accept that we're going to have an ever-increasing national debt, increasingly intrusive government, heavier and heavier taxes to pay for more "goodies" for the people since even republicans must now go full-bore lib or become extinct as a party.
And of course all that has become apparant the teapartiers realize they no longer have time to go to political activites, they have to work harder to pay the taxes and the bills ... assuming they get to keep their jobs.



Welcome to Obamaland, redux.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: dm1333 on November 17, 2012, 10:31:11 AM
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Yea..... apparantly many people have come to accept that we're going to have an ever-increasing national debt, increasingly intrusive government, heavier and heavier taxes to pay for more "goodies" for the people since even republicans must now go full-bore lib or become extinct as a party.
And of course all that has become apparant the teapartiers realize they no longer have time to go to political activites, they have to work harder to pay the taxes and the bills ... assuming they get to keep their jobs.



Welcome to Obamaland, redux.

So how do you explain 29 Republican governors vs. 20 Democratic?
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: seeker_two on November 17, 2012, 10:53:54 AM
So how do you explain 29 Republican governors vs. 20 Democratic?

The TEA Party has been more effective in state elections than in national ones. Texas is a good example...pretty much all the TEA PARTY-endorsed candidates won here....esp. Ted Cruz for US Senate. And it looks like the next showdowns on Obamacare will be b/t the Fed & the States....should be fun to watch....  [popcorn]


.....and I didn't know Ben's last name was Ghazi....
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: TommyGunn on November 17, 2012, 12:51:22 PM
So how do you explain 29 Republican governors vs. 20 Democratic?

It was intended to be a sarcastic post.

The TEA Party has been more effective in state elections than in national ones. Texas is a good example...pretty much all the TEA PARTY-endorsed candidates won here....esp. Ted Cruz for US Senate. And it looks like the next showdowns on Obamacare will be b/t the Fed & the States....should be fun to watch....  [popcorn]...

What he said.↑↑↑↑
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 17, 2012, 11:33:37 PM
Am I the only cynical bastard that interpreted that as just a way so that Obama can claim he didn't know and Petraeus can claim he did his job, all while the mysterious report-altering person remains completely unknown and therefore no one actually has to take responsibility?

Noticed that, didja?

So did I.

My late uncle used to be like that. He lived in NYC and was a bit ... eccentric. He visited us every year at Christmas. When I was a kid, I used to lie in bed and listen to him telling my parents about all the nasty things "they" did to him. My father always asked him who "they" were. The answer was always the same: "Oh, you know ... them"
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 18, 2012, 09:12:00 AM
Noticed that, didja?

So did I.

My late uncle used to be like that. He lived in NYC and was a bit ... eccentric. He visited us every year at Christmas. When I was a kid, I used to lie in bed and listen to him telling my parents about all the nasty things "they" did to him. My father always asked him who "they" were. The answer was always the same: "Oh, you know ... them"

At my last duty station during my enlistment I was persona non grata to a few particular folks. They tried to trump up some BS about how I was doing my job. Had a group of them come up to me and in a very nasty tone "We've received reports you were doing your job when on shift. We're writing you up for it." Funny thing was that entire counseling session came to a slamming halt when I (lowly E-5) broke in and asked the assembled E-6's and E-7's a few simple questions, who is reporting this, when did I supposedly do these things, and what was I doing wrong, they could answer none of it. Then of course the final nail in that coffin was when I produced instructors notes (I was re-cert'ing an analyst position after come back from A-stan) that stated in no uncertain terms that I was 2 months ahead of schedule in my training and doing and outstanding job.

The problem here however is that the people who should be asking these questions (the media) are not, those who are asking them are being ignored, and the "instructors notes" if you will are either missing or buried under classification caveats.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 18, 2012, 11:52:35 AM
The facts of the matter are irrelevant, it's the seriousness of the allegations that is important.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 18, 2012, 12:19:58 PM
The facts of the matter are irrelevant, it's the seriousness of the allegations that is important.

Really!? Well I guess in that case I should stop sitting on the report I received from a confidential and high placed informant that Obama has allegedly been offering children participating on White House tours free candy and then taking them into the Oval office unattended behind closed doors for several hours. Now, no one is saying Obama is a pedophile and has been molesting children in the oval office yet, we just want to know the truth. It's on Obama to come out and disprove these allegations!


Little too over the top? Frankly I'm sick of these media games and both my bags of Give-a-F*** and Courtesy are empty.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: TommyGunn on November 18, 2012, 01:05:59 PM
I think Roadking Larry was being sarcastic.  
Back under Bush Senior the Demorats wanted to investigate whether he'd done something .... the republicans started whining there were no facts to support their claim and the demos retorted the facts didn't matter, the charges were so serious they needed to investigate anyway.
Politics.   [barf]
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: ArfinGreebly on November 18, 2012, 03:09:20 PM

And the corollary to "seriousness of the charges" was invoked later, when there were serious charges leveled at someone on the Dem side:  "we question the timing."

So, if the charges are against conservative entities, it's "the seriousness of the charges."

And, if the charges are against leftist entities, it's important to "question the timing."
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Myself on November 19, 2012, 12:21:06 AM
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20121116/US.Libya.Attack/

Good news, Feinstein is going to take care of everything.  We can all relax now, congress is at work.   =D
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 19, 2012, 12:42:29 AM
I remember a while back there was this big incident that was a front page story everywhere. Something about maybe Libya and some Ambassador or something? Was it like a scandal or how some Americans at the Consulate were culturally insensitive to some Libyans or something? I think maybe it was something like that. I can't remember though, because the only thing on the front pages now is about some sex scandal and horny Generals.


What happened was, the Arab StreetTM was inflamed by the release of a sex tape between an American general and a socialite (which I can only assume is some kind of prostitute). In their righteous indignation, they killed an American ambassador. And then something REALLY terrible happened. Mitt Romney said something about Ben Gazzi. No one knows what he said, but it must have been really bad. I think he strapped Ben to the hood of his car. Or he strapped Sandy to the roof of his car and drove her through New Jersey in a hurricane. Or something.

It was really bad.
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: TommyGunn on November 19, 2012, 02:11:40 PM
Fistful has been bought off by Obama, I see. [tinfoil] [popcorn] >:D :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: sanglant on November 19, 2012, 06:56:07 PM
hmm, September 11th getting close. all the dems are screaming "gm is alive and bin laden is dead".


no that couldn't have had anything to do with it. [tinfoil]
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: SADShooter on November 19, 2012, 07:18:12 PM

What happened was, the Arab StreetTM was inflamed by the release of a sex tape between an American general and a socialite (which I can only assume is some kind of prostitute). In their righteous indignation, they killed an American ambassador. And then something REALLY terrible happened. Mitt Romney said something about Ben Gazzi. No one knows what he said, but it must have been really bad. I think he strapped Ben to the hood of his car. Or he strapped Sandy to the roof of his car and drove her through New Jersey in a hurricane. Or something.

It was really bad.

I actually thought about making a Ben Gazzara joke, but I can't. The situation and its repercussions are too damn disgusting. =(
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: Scout26 on December 19, 2012, 04:45:49 PM
This is my shocked face.


http://news.yahoo.com/clinton-not-responsible-benghazi-shortcomings-inquiry-204542806.html
Title: Re: What Was That Incident in the News a While Back?
Post by: brimic on December 19, 2012, 06:48:04 PM
Dang. I thought this thread was going to be about Brittney Spears. :facepalm: