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Title: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 17, 2012, 04:58:46 PM
I'm halfway through Monster Hunter Vendetta, having finished the first book Thursday.

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It Is Awesome!

That's all.  You may go back to what you were doing now.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 17, 2012, 05:02:30 PM
Only 2.5 more books to go, then you'll be bugging Larry like the rest of us to come out with another one ASAP
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 17, 2012, 05:08:48 PM
I'll start pestering now... I'll need to beat the holiday rush.   :lol:
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: SADShooter on November 17, 2012, 05:25:34 PM
A little hard to believe at first, but they get BETTER.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 17, 2012, 05:31:48 PM
A little hard to believe at first, but they get BETTER.

Indeed, Alpha had a brilliant back story, vendetta had "TASTE THE WRATH OF  SSSSKKKKIIIIIIPPPPYYYYYY" and great character back story, and legion was just, well, huge.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: grampster on November 17, 2012, 05:37:31 PM
You need to get Spellbound and Hard Magic by Larry.  Then get Dead Six by Larry and Mike Kupari.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: lee n. field on November 17, 2012, 06:03:40 PM
I'm halfway through Monster Hunter Vendetta, having finished the first book Thursday.

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It Is Awesome!

That's all.  You may go back to what you were doing now.

Did-ya get to the part with the armored zombie elephants yet?
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 17, 2012, 06:26:46 PM
Did-ya get to the part with the armored zombie elephants yet?

Well.  I see I'll have to watch out for spoilers in my own thread.  =|


 =D

BTW, does anyone else see Adam Baldwin as Agent Franks?
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: lee n. field on November 17, 2012, 06:44:56 PM
Well.  I see I'll have to watch out for spoilers in my own thread.  =|


 =D

A.Z.E. is just a nice touch at one point.  It ain't near the biggest piece of awesome in the book.

Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 17, 2012, 06:48:23 PM
Well.  I see I'll have to watch out for spoilers in my own thread.  =|


 =D

BTW, does anyone else see Adam Baldwin as Agent Franks?

Yes!  Though, I think they need a physically larger, darker, person if they were casting for Franks.  Basically, fitz with hair.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 17, 2012, 07:01:39 PM
Yes!  Though, I think they need a physically larger, darker, person if they were casting for Franks.  Basically, fitz with hair.

Although I've never met Fitz IRL, I'm going to guess he would not fit the quiet, emotionless type that would be required for Franks.  Also, I think I'm going to have to buy this:
http://www.cafepress.com/monster_hunters.566906575 (http://www.cafepress.com/monster_hunters.566906575)

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Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 17, 2012, 07:48:42 PM
Although I've never met Fitz IRL, I'm going to guess he would not fit the quiet, emotionless type that would be required for Franks.  Also, I think I'm going to have to buy this:
http://www.cafepress.com/monster_hunters.566906575 (http://www.cafepress.com/monster_hunters.566906575)

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Hmm.  True, but I was mainly going for physical appearance.  If you took my friend, let's just call him "P" AMD put his brain in fitz's body...THAT would e agent franks.

Remember, franks isn't emotionless...he's just calm.  But he has plenty of deadpan sarcastic humor, and genuinely cares for some things.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 17, 2012, 07:54:35 PM
Remember, franks isn't emotionless...he's just calm.  But he has plenty of deadpan sarcastic humor, and genuinely cares for some things.

Yep.  Think of Baldwin's character in "Chuck".  (I did like that series.)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 17, 2012, 07:55:36 PM
Oh, and if Fitz played Franks, who would play Mosh?

I know!  "Shredder" Monkeyleg.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 17, 2012, 08:04:32 PM
Yep.  Think of Baldwin's character in "Chuck".  (I did like that series.)

He needs to be bigger.  Remember, Owen is HUGE and yet he describes franks as the same size or bigger.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 17, 2012, 08:09:18 PM
He needs to be bigger.  Remember, Owen is HUGE and yet he describes franks as the same size or bigger.

Special effects FTW.   :lol:
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: makattak on November 17, 2012, 09:00:05 PM
He needs to be bigger.  Remember, Owen is HUGE and yet he describes franks as the same size or bigger.

Yeah, I always pictured massive block of a man. Like some of the alternate versions of batman with the massive jaw, in my head at least. (Huge batman fan when I was little.)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: drewtam on November 17, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
He needs to be bigger.  Remember, Owen is HUGE and yet he describes franks as the same size or bigger.

Maybe somebody from a super heavyweight division of MMA, like a Brock Lesnar, or Overeem, or Frank Mir...

Its hard to capture in a still photo how freaking huge Brock is/was.
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Maybe holding a 50cal like a Rem 700 will do it.
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Wikipedia says his bout weight is ~266lbs. My guess is that he was cutting a lot to hit that target.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: makattak on November 17, 2012, 10:04:59 PM
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Remove the cape and cowl and give him some sunglasses.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on November 17, 2012, 10:12:10 PM
I've always thought of Franks as looking kind of like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator, except bigger and with a cheap suit.

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Maybe somebody from a super heavyweight division of MMA, like a Brock Lesnar, or Overeem, or Frank Mir...

Its hard to capture in a still photo how freaking huge Brock is/was.
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The guy on the left (I'm assuming that's Lesnar??) would work; he'd just need to get different haircut.

ETA: While we're doing casting, I say Hugo Weaving plays Agent Myers.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 17, 2012, 10:42:14 PM
I've always thought of Franks as looking kind of like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator, except bigger and with a cheap suit.

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The guy on the left (I'm assuming that's Lesnar??) would work; he'd just need to get different haircut.

ETA: While we're doing casting, I say Hugo Weaving plays Agent Myers.

Can i be milo? :)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on November 17, 2012, 10:43:12 PM
Can i be milo? :)

Don't know; do you have a badass viking beard?
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 17, 2012, 10:46:47 PM
Don't know; do you have a badass viking beard?

I could obtain one quickly :)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on November 17, 2012, 11:28:05 PM
I could obtain one quickly :)

You'll do, then, since I assume you already have the mad scientist act down. :lol:
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on November 18, 2012, 12:14:10 AM
Nononononononono....  Milo is not a mad scientist.....


he's a mad *engineer*....

*MUCH* more dangerous....
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: bedlamite on November 18, 2012, 12:36:05 AM
I could obtain one quickly :)

http://www.beardhead.com/featured/viking-beard-head-combo.html (http://www.beardhead.com/featured/viking-beard-head-combo.html)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Fjolnirsson on November 18, 2012, 02:49:22 AM
I could definitely see Lesnar as Franks, and Hugo Weaving as Myers. Bruce Willis fits Earl Harbinger's old school tough guy feel, in my head. I kinda picture Dave Bautista as Owen, at least physically.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 18, 2012, 07:17:36 AM
Nononononononono....  Milo is not a mad scientist.....


he's a mad *engineer*....

*MUCH* more dangerous....

And so am I!  (cackles maniacally while looking back and forth between a pile of AR parts and a 3-D printer)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: seeker_two on November 18, 2012, 07:27:11 AM
I could definitely see Lesnar as Franks, and Hugo Weaving as Myers. Bruce Willis fits Earl Harbinger's old school tough guy feel, in my head. I kinda picture Dave Bautista as Owen, at least physically.

Dolph Lundgren as Franks, Willis as Harbinger, Adam Baldwin as Owen, and Jeffery Donovan as Myers......

.....and Kate Beckensale as Julie....
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on November 18, 2012, 07:38:18 AM
Dolph Lundgren as Franks, Willis as Harbinger, Adam Baldwin as Owen, and Jeffery Donovan as Myers......

.....and Kate Beckensale as Julie....

I always pictured harbinger as skinny-ish.  Isn't that part of the whole "why is that little guy beating the crap out of the huge guy" thing?  Did I miss a character description in the book?

Also, dolph is too old...at least in the face.  Franks' face doesn't have that many miles ;)

Ooh, Donovan as Myers.  I like that.

Hell, make Larry lose a few pounds (sorry Larry, we all have to) and cast HIM as Owen...it's obvious he kinda used himself as the character mold (and his wife as Julie...look at their Halloween pics on FB)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 18, 2012, 08:39:08 AM
Old school arnie is franks for sure.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Devonai on November 18, 2012, 11:37:45 AM
It's fun to speculate, but Larry has sold the TV rights to MHI, not the film rights.  Not that actors from Hollywood don't sometimes switch to TV roles.  Adam Baldwin and Jeffery Donovan are more realistic choices than Lundgren or Willis.

Also, don't forget that OZP is 25 at the beginning of MHI... far too young for Adam Baldwin.  Some people can play roles much younger than their physical age (I might mention most of the cast of 90210), but Baldwin is already pushing 51.

I only have a few suggestions.  Lena Headey for Julie:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0372176/

Stephen Lang for Harbinger:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002332/

And of course myself for Kantrowitz from Monster Hunter Legion.  Just give me a line or two so I can get my SAG card.

Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Fly320s on November 18, 2012, 01:35:20 PM
Lang works as Harbinger.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: SADShooter on November 18, 2012, 01:39:33 PM
Lang works as Harbinger.

Agreed.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: seeker_two on November 18, 2012, 03:06:59 PM
Lang works as Harbinger.

Seconded...

Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: lee n. field on November 18, 2012, 03:22:22 PM
.....and Kate Beckensale as Julie....

And, with a little CGI, Susan.

Who plays Ray?  Brad Dourif?
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on November 18, 2012, 04:47:58 PM
Donovan doesn't really work for Myers. In the book he's described as being "older and looked more like a college professor than a fed."  That's Hugo Weaving to a T.

Lang would be an OK fit for Harbinger, but not the best one. He's a little too old. I always pictured him as a younger version of Muse Watson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_Watson), the guy who plays Mike Franks on NCIS.

Who plays Ray?  Brad Dourif?

Definitely Muse Watson. Just about the right age, right look.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: MechAg94 on November 18, 2012, 11:18:19 PM
Donovan doesn't really work for Myers. In the book he's described as being "older and looked more like a college professor than a fed."  That's Hugo Weaving to a T.

Lang would be an OK fit for Harbinger, but not the best one. He's a little too old. I always pictured him as a younger version of Muse Watson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_Watson), the guy who plays Mike Franks on NCIS.

Definitely Muse Watson. Just about the right age, right look.
And Watson doesn't look too old?
Lang fits the mold of looking like he has homicidal temptations just below the surface.  Watson looks too nice at least in the pic I saw.  Harbinger should have a hard look look like he would rather rip your throat than talk to you.  Also, fairly thin or low body fat and a chain smoker with a redneck look.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on November 18, 2012, 11:56:20 PM
And Watson doesn't look too old?
Lang fits the mold of looking like he has homicidal temptations just below the surface.  Watson looks too nice at least in the pic I saw.  Harbinger should have a hard look look like he would rather rip your throat than talk to you.  Also, fairly thin or low body fat and a chain smoker with a redneck look.

I said a young Watson. He is too old, but if you could find a younger guy that looks like him he'd work.

Watson could still play Ray, though.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: drewtam on November 19, 2012, 07:36:39 AM
Good acting skills and makeup can compensate well for an incorrect look.

Except in the case of Franks, he has no lines. So his actor really does have to stand there and look the part, while dressed in a cheap MCB suit.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: seeker_two on November 19, 2012, 09:50:57 AM
How about Jason Statham as Franks? He does his best work with no spoken lines....

.....and, for Myers, Matt Bomer from WHITE COLLAR.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: makattak on November 19, 2012, 10:15:14 AM
How about Jason Statham as Franks? He does his best work with no spoken lines....

.....and, for Myers, Matt Bomer from WHITE COLLAR.


WAY too good looking for Myers. Maybe for Grant.

Myers needs to be rather weaselly looking college professor. Actually, if Ben Stein were a little younger, I could see him in that role.

And Statham is too small. The man needs to look like a brick.

I'm thinking Ronald "Tiny Ron" Taylor. Maybe with a little augmentation to look bulkier.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: seeker_two on November 19, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
WAY too good looking for Myers. Maybe for Grant.

Myers needs to be rather weaselly looking college professor. Actually, if Ben Stein were a little younger, I could see him in that role.

I could agree with Bomer as Grant....maybe Tim McKay (his WC co-star) as Myers....he already plays a straight-laced Fed....

.....and Willie Garson as Milo.....
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 22, 2012, 01:43:23 PM
Definitely addicted.  I'm in to #4 now.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: slugcatcher on November 26, 2012, 01:55:40 PM
Dolph Lundgren as Franks, Willis as Harbinger, Adam Baldwin as Owen, and Jeffery Donovan as Myers......

.....and Kate Beckensale as Julie....

I'd like to see Sienna Miller as Julie.  To me she looks the part much better than Kate.  Just look at her as the Baroness in the 1st GI Joe movie.

Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: brimic on November 26, 2012, 03:00:48 PM
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Old school arnie is franks for sure.

or Dolf Lundgren

edit: Seeker_two beat me to it....
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Liam Neeson for Harb-anger
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: brimic on November 26, 2012, 03:32:39 PM
I have a bit of a MHI inspired complex right now.
While shopping over the weekend, my wife bought a 'WELCOME' mat that is now on our front door stoop.
We've lived in our house for over 11 years without a 'WELCOME' mat and have never been attacked by vampires.
I think there might be a correlation... =|
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 26, 2012, 05:55:26 PM
My mental image of Myers was generally that of Brian Cox. Older, educated, ruthless....
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on November 26, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
Finished Hard Magic a couple days ago.  Very good!
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: lee n. field on November 26, 2012, 08:24:44 PM
My mental image of Myers was generally that of Brian Wally Cox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_Cox). Older, educated, ruthless....

FIFY

 >:D
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: makattak on November 26, 2012, 09:28:14 PM
I have a bit of a MHI inspired complex right now.
While shopping over the weekend, my wife bought a 'WELCOME' mat that is now on our front door stoop.
We've lived in our house for over 11 years without a 'WELCOME' mat and have never been attacked by vampires.
I think there might be a correlation... =|


I'm glad I'm not the only one to check the door mats after reading MHI...  [tinfoil]


(Ours say "Whooooo's there?"... so we're good.)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 05, 2012, 07:48:54 AM
I'm glad I'm not the only one to check the door mats after reading MHI...  [tinfoil]


(Ours say "Whooooo's there?"... so we're good.)

Ours is a skull and crossbones :)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: freakazoid on December 05, 2012, 10:30:41 AM
I head read the first MHI some months ago. Recently ordered and received the last three.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Fitz on December 05, 2012, 11:12:54 AM
I head read the first MHI some months ago. Recently ordered and received the last three.

I just finished Legion. Loved it. My only criticism is that the author keeps making bigger and more awful monsters. It's getting to the point where the heroes are godlike.

Versus, for example, the more interesting (to me) normal dudes fighting more reasonable monsters.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: brimic on December 05, 2012, 11:36:26 AM
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I just finished Legion. Loved it. My only criticism is that the author keeps making bigger and more awful monsters. It's getting to the point where the heroes are godlike.

Versus, for example, the more interesting (to me) normal dudes fighting more reasonable monsters.

But there are some great imaginative monsters in between the low level zombies and high level boss monsters- diggers, giant werewolves, armored zombie bears....

Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Fitz on December 05, 2012, 11:38:16 AM
But there are some great imaginative monsters in between the low level zombies and high level boss monsters- diggers, giant werewolves, armored zombie bears....



Sure, and in the last two books, the monsters have been godlike, requiring godlike powers from the heroes.

I hate to whine about realism in a monster book, but... it's a bit much
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: makattak on December 05, 2012, 11:43:52 AM
Sure, and in the last two books, the monsters have been godlike, requiring godlike powers from the heroes.

I hate to whine about realism in a monster book, but... it's a bit much

Ummm... Every book has required that. Think about MHI and Vendetta: in both cases, an outside force had to imbue or provide Owen with godlike powers in order to defeat the monster. (In addition to the amulet of Alpha and the boogy man of Legion.)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: brimic on December 05, 2012, 12:22:20 PM
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Sure, and in the last two books, the monsters have been godlike, requiring godlike powers from the heroes.
I haven't read the last one or two books yet.
But I'll agree that even in the first book when Owen turned back time to undo what happened in the swamp was more than a bit annoying...
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Doggy Daddy on December 05, 2012, 08:49:32 PM
I haven't read the last one or two books yet.
But I'll agree that even in the first book when Owen turned back time to undo what happened in the swamp was more than a bit annoying...

http://tinyurl.com/nxrqfc (http://tinyurl.com/nxrqfc)

 :laugh:
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: MechAg94 on December 05, 2012, 10:13:25 PM
http://tinyurl.com/nxrqfc (http://tinyurl.com/nxrqfc)

 :laugh:
That is a bit more than annoying. 
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Jamisjockey on December 05, 2012, 10:34:23 PM
Sure, and in the last two books, the monsters have been godlike, requiring godlike powers from the heroes.

I hate to whine about realism in a monster book, but... it's a bit much

It's all a bit much.  "B" movie over the top.  Larry even says so himself.  That's the fun of it.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 06, 2012, 07:53:19 PM
Legion was short. Read it in 2 days. Needs to be longer. *nods sagely*
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Devonai on December 06, 2012, 10:32:43 PM
Yeah I breezed through it pretty quick, but I was also eager to find out how my namesake got redshirted.  =D
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Fitz on December 06, 2012, 11:41:36 PM
Yeah I breezed through it pretty quick, but I was also eager to find out how my namesake got redshirted.  =D

Your screen name here was mentioned in tarantula nebula and it took me a while to make the connection between you here and you on bookfacez


It involved you, some nipple clamps. And a few of the cat people. At least, I think it did. Or maybe wanted it to
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: makattak on December 06, 2012, 11:56:26 PM
Legion was short. Read it in 2 days. Needs to be longer. *nods sagely*

Slacker. ;)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Devonai on December 07, 2012, 01:26:59 AM
Your screen name here was mentioned in tarantula nebula and it took me a while to make the connection between you here and you on bookfacez

It involved you, some nipple clamps. And a few of the cat people. At least, I think it did. Or maybe wanted it to

As long as we're all tracking now.  :O
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 08, 2012, 12:40:28 PM
Your screen name here was mentioned in tarantula nebula and it took me a while to make the connection between you here and you on bookfacez


It involved you, some nipple clamps. And a few of the cat people. At least, I think it did. Or maybe wanted it to

HAHAHAHA that's awesome, you must have been like "hey!  Devonai!  That dude is on APS!"  I wonder if this David guy knows him?  Oh...wait...
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: drewtam on December 08, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
Maybe that is why I liked Alpha more... the powers of both the good and bad guys was a little more constrained. Plus with the limited scope of the story, there was a little more character depth.


That said, I look forward to the over the top finale. On the good guy side, we got the chosen one, the guardian, the alpha male and female, a master with a lessor, orcs, elves, and a worldwide army of hunters.
On the bad guy side we got the Eldritch Abominations, MCB leadership, STFU, and evil minions.

This will be quite the showdown.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 08, 2012, 02:39:04 PM
Don't forget the gnomes. They be representin'!  :laugh:
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Devonai on December 08, 2012, 02:43:40 PM
Fitz, have you read Dead Six?  I think you'd enjoy it.  Only a hint of the supernatural:

http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Six-Larry-Correia/dp/1451637586/ (http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Six-Larry-Correia/dp/1451637586/)

Drew, I'm in complete agreement.  Alpha is definitely the strongest of the series.

HAHAHAHA that's awesome, you must have been like "hey!  Devonai!  That dude is on APS!"  I wonder if this David guy knows him?  Oh...wait...

 =D  I created that character name for an RPG session 17 years ago by taking my first name, jumbling it up, and adding a few letters.  It caused the GM no end of consternation as he was constantly calling me either "Dave" or "Dev."  Later, he married a woman named Deb, and the potential for embarrassment got exponentially worse.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 08, 2012, 02:50:13 PM
I will say that the impromptu poultry-patch had me laughing for several minutes. I wanna see what Skippy could do if he got his mitts on a CH-53A Sea Stallion. (http://youtu.be/VC2E8RJE3Jo)  [popcorn]
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 08, 2012, 03:56:05 PM
I will say that the impromptu poultry-patch had me laughing for several minutes. I wanna see what Skippy could do if he got his mitts on a CH-53A Sea Stallion. (http://youtu.be/VC2E8RJE3Jo)  [popcorn]

Make it an echo and I'm with you...the A was kinda...crappy, by the time the delta and echo rolled around, that airframe got interesting :)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 08, 2012, 03:58:20 PM
Make it an echo and I'm with you...the A was kinda...crappy, by the time the delta and echo rolled around, that airframe got interesting :)

Actually I'd rather it be a CH-53K, but I don't have videos of either the E or K doing barrel rolls and loops.  :lol:  Plus story line plausibility (for a fantasy/sci-fi book, I know, I know), getting a 53A second hand versus getting a new off the line E or K.


ETA:
http://youtu.be/k_pAe8Gvua8

I really want to see what would happen if Sikorsky took the K model, added a fourth engine side by side with the rear/center engine and beefed up the rotor blades/spindle some more. Oh, and that's a humvee loaded internally by the way.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: drewtam on December 08, 2012, 04:05:12 PM
Don't forget the gnomes. They be representin'!  :laugh:

Dem gnomes be crazy

natural born killaz

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Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 08, 2012, 04:17:50 PM
Actually I'd rather it be a CH-53K, but I don't have videos of either the E or K doing barrel rolls and loops.  :lol:  Plus story line plausibility (for a fantasy/sci-fi book, I know, I know), getting a 53A second hand versus getting a new off the line E or K.


ETA:
http://youtu.be/k_pAe8Gvua8

I really want to see what would happen if Sikorsky took the K model, added a fourth engine side by side with the rear/center engine and beefed up the rotor blades/spindle some more. Oh, and that's a humvee loaded internally by the way.

Why not just replace the 3 T64's with 3 AE1107's from an osprey, they are only 12" bigger in diameter, and you'd have more power than 4 T64's :)

As for loops/rolls, a coworker was a USMC test pilot and said he has personally looped an echo in a test. (I never validated his story, but he was not one to embellish...one of those 'quiet types')

...on purpose...

...The airframe was retired due to over stress.

...he thought he might have over stressed his sphincter
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 08, 2012, 04:50:11 PM
Why not just replace the 3 T64's with 3 AE1107's from an osprey, they are only 12" bigger in diameter, and you'd have more power than 4 T64's :)

As for loops/rolls, a coworker was a USMC test pilot and said he has personally looped an echo in a test. (I never validated his story, but he was not one to embellish...one of those 'quiet types')

...on purpose...

...The airframe was retired due to over stress.

...he thought he might have over stressed his sphincter

*grins and claps like an idiot while giggling*


And if we're changing out the engines that extensively.... just go with four of the AE1107's.  =D
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 08, 2012, 04:58:34 PM
*grins and claps like an idiot while giggling*


And if we're changing out the engines that extensively.... just go with four of the AE1107's.  =D

Now that's just crazy talk.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Jamisjockey on December 08, 2012, 06:41:59 PM
Slowly writing some fanfic.  There will be a C208 on floats with forward facing fifty's.   [ar15]
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 08, 2012, 06:48:36 PM
Now that's just crazy talk.

It's not crazy to want a helicopter with a GTO in excess of 120k lbs... stop cockblocking my inner mad scientist!
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on December 08, 2012, 07:09:36 PM
ETA:
http://youtu.be/k_pAe8Gvua8

I really want to see what would happen if Sikorsky took the K model, added a fourth engine side by side with the rear/center engine and beefed up the rotor blades/spindle some more. Oh, and that's a humvee loaded internally by the way.

...is that a Chinook that it's carrying at 0:38s?  :O
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 08, 2012, 07:25:20 PM
It's not crazy to want a helicopter with a GTO in excess of 120k lbs... stop cockblocking my inner mad scientist!

Totally doable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: lee n. field on December 08, 2012, 07:36:44 PM
Totally doable.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-26

Quote
On 19 August 2002, Chechen separatists hit an overloaded Mi-26 with a surface to air missile, causing it to crash-land in a minefield and killing 127 of the people on board.[9]

127 people on one helicopter.  At least.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 08, 2012, 08:30:01 PM
127 people on one helicopter.  At least.

Maybe some of them were hit by the crashing helicopter...standing in a minefield....wait.  Nevermind.

Is it just me, or is being in a Russian helicopter...

That is overloaded....

And hit by a SAM....

And crashing into a minefield...

In Chechnya.

Pretty much the best "final destination" example of god pressing the 'smite' button?
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 08, 2012, 09:05:09 PM
Maybe some of them were hit by the crashing helicopter...standing in a minefield....wait.  Nevermind.

Is it just me, or is being in a Russian helicopter...

That is overloaded....

And hit by a SAM....

And crashing into a minefield...

In Chechnya.

Pretty much the best "final destination" example of god pressing the 'smite' button?

Juuuuuust barely edged out by being at ground zero of a Tunguska-like Event.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: MechAg94 on December 08, 2012, 10:41:32 PM
Maybe some of them were hit by the crashing helicopter...standing in a minefield....wait.  Nevermind.

Is it just me, or is being in a Russian helicopter...

That is overloaded....

And hit by a SAM....

And crashing into a minefield...

In Chechnya.

Pretty much the best "final destination" example of god pressing the 'smite' button?
That almost sounds like the old Aggie joke about a plane crash in a College Station cemetery.  They have counted 527 deaths so far and they are still finding bodies. 
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Fly320s on December 09, 2012, 06:44:40 AM
...is that a Chinook that it's carrying at 0:38s?  :O

Yep. The 53 was designed to rescue/recover downed helicopters in Viet Nam.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on December 09, 2012, 08:00:59 PM
Yep. The 53 was designed to rescue/recover downed helicopters in Viet Nam.

That's one big SOB. Chinooks used to overfly my apartment semi-regularly (until whoever was flying them apparently replaced them with V-22s), and I thought THOSE were big bastards....
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: kgbsquirrel on December 09, 2012, 08:40:05 PM
Some of my favorite Super Stallion pics....

(I <3 Sikorsky!)


(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi111.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fn149%2FYaivenov%2FI%2520wuv%2520Sikorsky%2Fchinooklift.jpg&hash=f4ab9b22d9b5eac5f84581f8014c390fcef9f842)

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And yes, it can even lift itself...

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Of course, as Birdman mentioned, the Soviet Mi-26. It's like a flying hotel....

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Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Jamisjockey on December 10, 2012, 01:05:35 AM
That's one big SOB. Chinooks used to overfly my apartment semi-regularly (until whoever was flying them apparently replaced them with V-22s), and I thought THOSE were big bastards....

Not quite.  The CH47 Chinook is flown by the Army. 
The smaller twin rotor CH46 sea knight (or more commonly "frog") is what's being replaced with MV22's in the Marine Corps inventory.
Quickest way to tell the difference between a 47 and 46 is the 47 has four landing wheel assemblies.  46 is tricycle gear.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on December 10, 2012, 01:20:08 AM
Not quite.  The CH47 Chinook is flown by the Army. 
The smaller twin rotor CH46 sea knight (or more commonly "frog") is what's being replaced with MV22's in the Marine Corps inventory.
Quickest way to tell the difference between a 47 and 46 is the 47 has four landing wheel assemblies.  46 is tricycle gear.

Could be. All I know is that every once a while, maybe once every few months at most, there'd be an over flight of twin rotor helicopters. Then there were a couple overflights of Ospreys and I didn't see the twin rotors again, though I moved not long after that.

Can't imagine where the hell they'd be coming from or going, though; there are no Marine or Navy bases anywhere near where my apartment was (in La Grande, OR). I had always assumed they were National Guard.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 10, 2012, 06:47:11 AM
Not quite.  The CH47 Chinook is flown by the Army. 
The smaller twin rotor CH46 sea knight (or more commonly "frog") is what's being replaced with MV22's in the Marine Corps inventory.
Quickest way to tell the difference between a 47 and 46 is the 47 has four landing wheel assemblies.  46 is tricycle gear.

And the Airforce is getting CV-22, for AFSOC.  Since AFSOC and SF (160th) both have used MH-47 (IIRC), you could have seen either.

Even quicker way to tell the difference between 46 and 47, in the 46, the sponsons are only at the back, in the 47, they go nearly the whole length of the fuselage.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Boomhauer on December 10, 2012, 09:48:14 AM
Could be. All I know is that every once a while, maybe once every few months at most, there'd be an over flight of twin rotor helicopters. Then there were a couple overflights of Ospreys and I didn't see the twin rotors again, though I moved not long after that.

Can't imagine where the hell they'd be coming from or going, though; there are no Marine or Navy bases anywhere near where my apartment was (in La Grande, OR). I had always assumed they were National Guard.

You are somewhere along a route they like to take on cross country flights then. Im on a fairly popular one and get to see helis reguarly..,ive seen every helicopter type in the US inventory and a V-22 (back in 07). Even had the 160th ask to use our airfield for training.
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Jamisjockey on December 10, 2012, 11:02:13 AM
I wonder how far he is from Whidbey.

http://cnic.navy.mil/Whidbey/index.htm
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Regolith on December 10, 2012, 11:16:43 AM
I wonder how far he is from Whidbey.

http://cnic.navy.mil/Whidbey/index.htm


According to Google Maps, 361 miles and some change. Not as far as I thought, but not exactly close either.

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Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Boomhauer on December 10, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Speaking of Russian helicopters...no way in hell I'd fly in one. No way.

Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: Phantom Warrior on December 10, 2012, 12:09:21 PM
And the Airforce is getting CV-22, for AFSOC.  Since AFSOC and SF (160th) both have used MH-47 (IIRC), you could have seen either.

Do you mean SOAR?   ???

160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/160th_Special_Operations_Aviation_Regiment_%28Airborne%29)
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: JonnyB on December 10, 2012, 03:14:29 PM
Since this thread is about as derailed as it can get...

Son 2 was in Iraq in 2006& 2007 (16 month deployment). They were stationed at Fallujah, with the Marines, even though he was MnANG. The ride of the day was typically a CH-53 Sea Stallion. Matt *hated* riding in them! The Marines generally took out the windows, so when they were flying, the hold was hammered with turbine exhaust, dust and rotor blast.

The things leaked hydraulic oil inside, were noisy as hell and not particularly fast. They also needed to wait around for an armed escort.

When they were able to use a Blackhawk, it was a whole 'nuther story. Quiet (relatively, for a rotor-wing), fast, not noisy or stinky or windy inside. No oil leaks, either.

No waiting for an armed escort, either, since the Blackhawk *was* the armed escort.

jb

ps: when flying over Baghdad, his though was: "This place was a shithole *before* we bombed it flat!" 'Course, he said the same of Louisiana and Katrina...
Title: Re: M.H.I.
Post by: birdman on December 10, 2012, 08:13:13 PM
Do you mean SOAR?   ???

160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/160th_Special_Operations_Aviation_Regiment_%28Airborne%29)

I used SF as a monicker for all of USASOC, of which the 160th is a part.  Or to quote a friend in that organization "I have more airframes than the USAF" :)


As for which is faster, the rated maximum (NOT the Vdne) of the 53 is faster than a blackhawk, 170 vs 159 kts.
I don't know what the Vdne of the 53E is, but its faster than one might expect.  When unladen, it can haul....ill ask around on the speed.

Also, 3 gun positions vs 2, and the ability to carry a metric butt load more ammo and other gear There is a reason why the pave low (true, not a 3-engined echo, but same root airframe) existed...and it wasn't because the MH-60 wasn't available ;)