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Title: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: gunsmith on November 17, 2012, 11:28:13 PM
http://m.washingtonpost.com/national/ca-man-with-weird-watch-arrested-at-oakland-airport-charged-with-having-bomb-making-materials/2012/11/16/245d4e52-3065-11e2-af17-67abba0676e2_story.html


I imagine they yelled "let me see your hands" ( ha ha get it? a watch has hands )

Also, he tried to make his own elevator shoes, apparently that is a crime now as well.

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While no actual explosives were found, McGann was carrying potentially dangerous materials and appeared to have made alterations to his boots, which were unusually large and stuffed with layers of insoles, Nelson said.


oh oh, my mind is potentially dangerous - I should turn my self in to the TSA.
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: gunsmith on November 21, 2012, 04:39:58 PM
Reason mag has a picture, cool watch!
http://reason.com/blog/2012/11/21/tsa-leave-your-weird-fancy-arty-utterly
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: zahc on November 21, 2012, 04:52:43 PM
Good thing it wasn't a Casio F91W, or he might have found himself in gitmo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees_accused_of_possessing_Casio_watches
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: gunsmith on November 21, 2012, 04:59:30 PM
Good thing it wasn't a Casio F91W, or he might have found himself in gitmo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees_accused_of_possessing_Casio_watches

very interesting, of course now I want two watches!
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: tokugawa on November 21, 2012, 05:36:43 PM
The explosives team arrived in five minutes and determined there were no explosives- so exactly why the @#$%^ did they throw his ass in jail, and charge him? This is the thing that gets me- they can't admit, even for a second, "oops, sorry, all cool dude" and let him go. They just have to #$%^ with him just because.

 "bombmaking materials"- AKA everyday household and shop items, found in most of the homes in what used to be America,  we are now at the point where a spare fuse and a toggle switch is evidence of a terrorist? 
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 21, 2012, 05:44:06 PM
The explosives team arrived in five minutes and determined there were no explosives- so exactly why the @#$%^ did they throw his ass in jail, and charge him? This is the thing that gets me- they can't admit, even for a second, "oops, sorry, all cool dude" and let him go. They just have to #$%^ with him just because.

 "bombmaking materials"- AKA everyday household and shop items, found in most of the homes in what used to be America,  we are now at the point where a spare fuse and a toggle switch is evidence of a terrorist? 


Better start shutting down Home Depots, Sears, Wal-Marts, etc. as bomb factories.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: zxcvbob on November 21, 2012, 05:48:03 PM
Better start shutting down Home Depots, Sears, Wal-Marts, etc. as bomb factories.  :facepalm:

God help you if you're carrying a Radio Shack bag.
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: RocketMan on November 21, 2012, 05:55:44 PM
"bombmaking materials"- AKA everyday household and shop items, found in most of the homes in what used to be America,  we are now at the point where a spare fuse and a toggle switch is evidence of a terrorist?  

In my garage shop there are electronic components, switches, wires, batteries, rocket motors, chemicals...I'm totally screwed.  I wonder if they offer free WiFi at the Gitmo Inn?
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: birdman on November 21, 2012, 06:02:25 PM
This stinks.  I have to fly to SF after christmas with two large cases full of electronic parts, tools, etc for a build, guess I'm checking them and hoping they make it :/
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: Tallpine on November 21, 2012, 07:08:19 PM
This stinks.  I have to fly to SF after christmas with two large cases full of electronic parts, tools, etc for a build, guess I'm checking them and hoping they make it :/

Funny, a few years back (2008?) I flew out to Seattle with a 787 power conditioning board in my luggage - no case, just the nekkid circuit board packed in my clothes.

They just shrugged and looked at me weird when I told them what it was and asked if it was a problem (the luggage scanners sit in the middle of the lobby and I waited there while they ran it through so the airport wouldn't get shut down).

Really, how did they know it was okay  ???   ;/
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: AJ Dual on November 21, 2012, 07:18:18 PM
Funny, a few years back (2008?) I flew out to Seattle with a 787 power conditioning board in my luggage - no case, just the nekkid circuit board packed in my clothes.

They just shrugged and looked at me weird when I told them what it was and asked if it was a problem (the luggage scanners sit in the middle of the lobby and I waited there while they ran it through so the airport wouldn't get shut down).

Really, how did they know it was okay  ???   ;/

Simple answer, they don't. It's security theater, and you complied by your manners.

Knowingly,  or not, his dress, manners, and "art pieces" mocked the security theater, and hence comes his legal  peril.
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: Tallpine on November 21, 2012, 07:31:43 PM
Simple answer, they don't. It's security theater, and you complied by your manners.

Knowingly,  or not, his dress, manners, and "art pieces" mocked the security theater, and hence comes his legal  peril.

I suppose that I wouldn't have stood there by the scanner if it was going to blow up  :lol:

I wonder if they can even see anything at all with those scanners  =|  The guy just looked at me like "duhhhhhh"  ;/

Oh yeah, and you're supposed to just leave your luggage sitting in a heap out there in the middle of the lobby until a tsa goon finally comes along to run the scanner  :facepalm:


Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: kgbsquirrel on November 21, 2012, 08:53:22 PM
I suppose that I wouldn't have stood there by the scanner if it was going to blow up  :lol:

Actually that's a rather important indicator those of us engaged in actual security work (and not security theater) look for. As taught to me by the military, when searching packages and bags I would ask the owner to open it. I'm watching them for hesitation, facial tells, etc. that might indicate there's something in said container that I should be concerned over. That's just one small part of the whole shebang but still rather important.
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: MillCreek on November 21, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
So if I were to squeeze my eyes shut and put my hands over my ears, that is a give away?
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: AJ Dual on November 21, 2012, 09:07:09 PM
So if I were to squeeze my eyes shut and put my hands over my ears, that is a give away?

If you're a little kid playing an extra at the Mt. Rushmore gift shop/cafeteria, it is.
Title: Re: wear a watch, go to jail?
Post by: HForrest on November 22, 2012, 04:55:42 AM
California has some of the most insane "destructive device" laws conceivable. Under the same law they charged him with (or at least I'm assuming it's the same one), you are a felon (2 year recommended sentence) in California if you possess dry ice, water, and a plastic bottle alone, with the mere intent to assemble them into a "destructive device". And of course when it comes to all aspects of the law in this state that's just the tip of the iceberg. This is why I am leaving.