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Title: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 01, 2013, 09:21:24 PM
Lots of sinus work tomorrow. I have some damage from years back and we are finally gonna try to sort things out

I'm nervous about the procedure and recovery, but cautiously excited about getting some relief from constant sinus issues.

I accept get well gifts in .45acp and shiner bock

I'm worried about the recovery pain... I have some high test pain pills but opiates make me super nauseated ... If I absolutely can't get by without em, I may attempt to grind em up and snort em

Ugh

Hate doctors

Hate pain


Wish me luck folks
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: AJ Dual on January 01, 2013, 09:31:22 PM
The three miles of packing gauze up there afterward will be your bigger issue than the pain.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: TechMan on January 01, 2013, 09:46:17 PM
I can make you forget the pain in your sinus area.  Here is how:

I need 5 seconds, a lead pipe and your kneecap and you will forget about the pain in your sinus area.

What are friends for....


PS  Good luck on the surgery and well wishes for a fast pain free, as much as possible, recovery.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Gewehr98 on January 01, 2013, 09:46:49 PM
Then there's the gallons of saline rinse as it all heals up from the chopped hamburger aftermath.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 01, 2013, 09:56:37 PM
They're going in with a scope. Also, not using the old "pack a ton of gauze" method. But Small, expanding (and later disintegrating) bits of foam in strategic areas

Supposedly the new procedure is pretty low impact. We will see
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: cordex on January 01, 2013, 10:03:20 PM
My brother-in-law had some sinus work done recently. They used a gel in place of the gauze for him. He ended up sneezing a nostril clear too early which was a concern at first, but turned into a huge blessing since the inability to breathe through the nose was a big problem for him.

He suggests running a humidifier when sleeping and keeping a glass of water by the bed.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Stetson on January 01, 2013, 10:46:02 PM
AS someone who has been through surgery recently:

Do not skimp on the pain meds, please.  I'll tell you why via PM, if you want.  It should not be public information.

Take all of your meds, even if you feel ok.  I didn;t and the bugs got to me again  I ended up back in the hospital and another surgery.

Be nice to nurses, they control a lot of things.

Do not think you are all healed until the Drs tell you so.  I screwed up my left foot, possibly for good, because I thought I knew better..."it is my body after all".

Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fly320s on January 01, 2013, 11:07:04 PM
Can we get before and after photos?
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Monkeyleg on January 01, 2013, 11:10:41 PM
How is the doctor going in? Front of face, up the nostrils, or somewhere else?
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: dm1333 on January 01, 2013, 11:36:55 PM
Toughen up you big wuss!  When they straightened out my deviated septum I sucked it up like a man!!!!! 

(confession time - I found out years after my surgery that they didn't use some fancy hydraulic gizmo to rebreak my nose and septum, they stuck a chisel up my nostril and then wailed on it with a hammer.  Had I known that I would have passed out!  Good luck!)
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Doggy Daddy on January 01, 2013, 11:37:20 PM
Will say a prayer and be thinking good thoughts.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: 41magsnub on January 01, 2013, 11:39:25 PM
How is the doctor going in? Front of face, up the nostrils, or somewhere else?

rectally?   =D

Good luck!
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Doggy Daddy on January 01, 2013, 11:40:09 PM
rectally?   =D

Good luck!

Well, I guess if they want the shortest route....
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 01:09:47 AM
How is the doctor going in? Front of face, up the nostrils, or somewhere else?

Up the nostrils
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 01:13:23 AM
He's also not breaking my nose to fix the septum, just shaving one side of it

Removing some curly looking parts, widening the passages , draining some crap, removing a cyst , fixing some crooked *expletive deleted*it ,

There's a whole laundry list I can't remember
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Monkeyleg on January 02, 2013, 02:00:44 AM
At least he's not peeling your face off.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: roo_ster on January 02, 2013, 03:19:45 AM
He's also not breaking my nose to fix the septum, just shaving one side of it

Removing some curly looking parts, widening the passages , draining some crap, removing a cyst , fixing some crooked *expletive deleted* ,

There's a whole laundry list I can't remember

I have had this done.  Twice.  Both were successes in my book.  Recovery time until your sinuses feel right is a while, a couple months. 

Unless you keep the pain meds coming, you will feel like someone took a 2x4 repeatedly to your face.  If there is no great fear of bleeding out(1), double up with Rx strength (2xOTC) naproxen sodium (Aleve).  FTR, naproxen sodium is better than most the cheap narcotics for this pain.  Really, when it comes to Rx narcos, go powerful or go home.

Good luck and you will be mentioned to the Big Guy.

Oh, and "turbinates." 


(1) And your narco Rx is not a combo that includes aspirin or ibuprofen or naproxen sodium.  Tylenol no biggie.  Damned adulterants.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 07:23:11 AM
Yeah turbinates!!!!!!!! Rofl


Headed in soon. Just woke up

Ugh
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 07:31:56 AM
I have percocet. Not sure where that measures up on the powerful scale

I asked for cocaine. Doc thought I was kidding. Rofl
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 09:19:57 AM
Going in! I have this fantastic hospital gown on .
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 02, 2013, 09:36:27 AM
Cheers, fitz.  Take care.  Let us know how it goes.  I probably need the same surgery.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: HankB on January 02, 2013, 09:41:06 AM
I have percocet. Not sure where that measures up on the powerful scale

I asked for cocaine. Doc thought I was kidding. Rofl
I remember my Dad told me he had surgery done on his sinuses, and they did paint the interior of his nasal passages with cocaine - numbed everything right up. Seems it does have legitimate medical uses.

I had percocet after I had impacted wisdom teeth extracted; it didn't work well for me. I felt that about half my brain cells were shut down, and I still hurt. (And people take this cr@p recreationally?  :facepalm: ) Extra strength Tylenol worked better for me - better at relieving the pain, and I didn't get that "fuzzy" feeling.

In any case . . . good luck.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: seeker_two on January 02, 2013, 09:43:50 AM
Good luck. Prayers sent....
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Sindawe on January 02, 2013, 10:08:23 AM
I have percocet. Not sure where that measures up on the powerful scale

I asked for cocaine. Doc thought I was kidding. Rofl

Percocet/Percodan.  Ick.  I had an Rx for those when I had my wisdom teeth removed 18 years ago.  Did NOT like the lightheaded feeling at all.  Had another Rx nine years later when I had the upper palete cut loose and split down the middle to fix some dental issues.  That I did not bother to fill, and the discomfort was mild in comparison to other injuries I've had.

Good luck in the surgery.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Sergeant Bob on January 02, 2013, 10:13:02 AM
Good luck Fitz! I hope you get the relief you are seeking.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Viking on January 02, 2013, 12:30:36 PM
"You do know what you're drinking is meant for eye surgery?"
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 12:51:39 PM
Well I feel like *expletive deleted*it
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 02, 2013, 01:24:51 PM
if you need something i an about a half hour from your home right now
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 01:27:36 PM
if you need something i an about a half hour from your home right now

Appreciate it. Right now the wifey has things under control. Not nauseated so I'm eating. Pain pills seem to be working ok

I'll let you know if I am in a bind though


Lol
Unless you got an 8 ball :lol:
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on January 02, 2013, 01:54:05 PM
Just whatever you do, don't sneeze...  :D

Sorry, couldn't help it.   Hopefully you get feeling better...   And while I understand the issues with the pain pills, *do* take them as prescribed, pain actually tends to slow down the healing process somewhat...   If you are experiencing too much nausea, ask your doc for a prescription for Zofran.   It's a seriously good anti-nausea (technically an anti-emetic) medication. 

I will say one thing though... I have had several kidney stones, and my docs seem to think that vicodin, percocet, and straight oxycodone tablets are candy....  Damn near got hooked on the [censored] things...   But they *do* help when prescribed (and taken) correctly.   DO NOT take more than the prescribed dosage, especially of the vicodin/percocet variety, since they are also acetominophen.   You don't want to try to get a new liver....   :)
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 01:57:49 PM
We got zofran. I told the doc that I didn't like opiates and he gave me that. Said "trust me, take the pain meds"
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 04:25:33 PM
Goddamn it

I hate opiates

I'm half tempted to switch to regular Tylenol instead of the Percocet

I really , truly *expletive deleted*ing hate opiates
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Bigjake on January 02, 2013, 09:25:26 PM


I really , truly *expletive deleted* hate opiates

My sympathies.   In the same boat.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: never_retreat on January 02, 2013, 09:57:27 PM
I started a thread a while ago about pain killers and there non effectiveness on me. Specifically the opiate based ones.
Has anyone here ever tried tramadol(sp)?
I might ask the doc next time I need pin killers.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 09:58:21 PM
My sympathies.   In the same boat.

I'm done with em. Either I'll use regular Tylenol or I'll crush and snort the percocet ... I can't handle the nausea and the anti nausea meds don't seem to be helping
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: TechMan on January 02, 2013, 10:02:55 PM
My original offer still stands.   =D
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 10:04:23 PM
Thanks but the pain actually is tolerable now. Probably because I got the drugs

Ugh
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 10:05:16 PM
I started a thread a while ago about pain killers and there non effectiveness on me. Specifically the opiate based ones.
Has anyone here ever tried tramadol(sp)?
I might ask the doc next time I need pin killers.

Never tried em

Opiates work for me they just make me sick as hell

I wish coke was still medically available. Nowadays it's pretty rare
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on January 02, 2013, 10:13:02 PM
dunno if the doc told you, but you should take the zofran at least 15 mins before the opiates...
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 10:16:06 PM
dunno if the doc told you, but you should take the zofran at least 15 mins before the opiates...

Well *expletive deleted*ck
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on January 02, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
Yeah, Zofran takes a little while to kick in....  Even the IV stuff we used to carry (now we use a dissolving tablet) took something like 10 minutes to take full effect...   When other IV drugs are pretty much 5-10 seconds to kick in.  Oral peak plasma concentration is 2 hours or so....   Usually onset of action is 45-60 mins....  Oral opiates usually take 30 mins to start kicking in...   So if you take it 15 mins prior, it's starting to kick in at about the same time as the opiates.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 02, 2013, 10:58:04 PM
Thanks for the tip

If I feel ok tomorrow when I wake up, I might just stick to Tylenol ...
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: AJ Dual on January 03, 2013, 12:03:04 AM
Toradol is good stuff.

Essentially the 500lb gorilla of the NSAID family. Not very happy happy for the liver, so it's generally limited to an Rx of a week in length, but it works great.

Title: Re: Re: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: lupinus on January 03, 2013, 05:41:20 AM
I started a thread a while ago about pain killers and there non effectiveness on me. Specifically the opiate based ones.
Has anyone here ever tried tramadol(sp)?
I might ask the doc next time I need pin killers.
I've had very good luck with tramadol in the past.

Can make you mildly fuzzy until used to it, but not extremely so.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: MrsSmith on January 03, 2013, 07:41:39 AM
I started a thread a while ago about pain killers and there non effectiveness on me. Specifically the opiate based ones.
Has anyone here ever tried tramadol(sp)?
I might ask the doc next time I need pin killers.


Most prescription pain killers either make me sick or make me itch so bad I'd rather deal with the pain instead. When I was having back issues, the doc switched me to Tramadol and it worked, without the icky side effects. I don't know that it would be effective against extreme pain (like what they might give morphine for, or post-op recovery) but for "regular" pain it was very effective.
I don't recall the fuzziness Lup mentioned, but it's been a few years.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 03, 2013, 07:50:08 AM
No pain this morning and it's been 10 hours since my last pain pill. Might even go to work
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 03, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
glad to hear it.  i've lost a few folk to pain meds of late
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: never_retreat on January 03, 2013, 10:07:06 PM
Most prescription pain killers either make me sick or make me itch so bad I'd rather deal with the pain instead. When I was having back issues, the doc switched me to Tramadol and it worked, without the icky side effects. I don't know that it would be effective against extreme pain (like what they might give morphine for, or post-op recovery) but for "regular" pain it was very effective.
I don't recall the fuzziness Lup mentioned, but it's been a few years.
The opiates don't make me fuzzy, loopy, drowsy, they just do absolutely nothing. Even when taken to the maximum dose prescribed for other stuff. About 4 times what my doctor prescribed.
When I hurt my back last time the only thing that worked was the muscle relaxers and the anti inflammatory. The muscle relaxers have no side effects either. They just stopped the spasms.
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: BobR on January 04, 2013, 01:31:45 AM
Quote
dunno if the doc told you, but you should take the zofran at least 15 mins before the opiates.

Good info that is often left out of discharge instructions. I always give zofran, or another anti-emetic, IV before I give the IV pain meds. I haven't had anyone actually die from pain on me, but have had plenty get much more miserable by not waiting for the zofran to kick in before the opiates.

bob
Title: Re: Surgery tomorrow
Post by: Fitz on January 04, 2013, 07:10:52 AM
well, i'm stuffed up (swelling) but feelin pretty good. Worked yesterday and today. Minimal bleeding, minimal pain. Toward the end of the day yesterday the pain caught up with me but regular tylenol was sufficient.

Another bottle of painkillers to add to the emergency kit i guess. ROFL