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Title: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: TechMan on January 15, 2013, 08:57:22 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/bill-called-toughest-gun-control-package-in-nation-passed-by-new-york-state/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/15/bill-called-toughest-gun-control-package-in-nation-passed-by-new-york-state/)

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Republican Sen. Greg Ball called that political opportunism in a rare criticism of the popular and powerful governor seen by his supporters as a possible candidate for president in 2016.

"We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president," said Ball who represents part of the Hudson Valley. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."

We the primaries come around don't forget what this idiot (Cuomo) has done.
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: T.O.M. on January 15, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
What's interesting about this law is that it doesn't just prohibit sale of "high capacity" magazines, it makes mere possession of magazines holding more than 7 rounds a crime.  Hope this doesn't spread up the food chain to DC...
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: longeyes on January 15, 2013, 11:20:00 AM
Let's see....Chicago...Las Vegas...Baltimore...New York...what's the connection other than being the home venue of some of our key government leaders?  Ask Jimmy Hoffa...
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: geronimotwo on January 15, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
they are voting on this in the assembly today.  nuts!
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: Gewehr98 on January 15, 2013, 03:04:04 PM
Gonna create a lot of ex-post-facto criminals with that one, aren't they?   ???
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: T.O.M. on January 15, 2013, 03:19:16 PM
Gonna create a lot of ex-post-facto criminals with that one, aren't they?   ???

Not quite.  Ex post facto laws make an action illegal after the action already occurred.  In this case, they are making it illegal to load 8 or more rounds in a magazine from this date forward.  Still sucks a$$ though...
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: lupinus on January 15, 2013, 07:30:20 PM
Cuomo in 2016 my ass.

The only way he belongs on a national stage is if it involves a tar pot and feathers.
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: Balog on January 15, 2013, 07:37:25 PM
Not quite.  Ex post facto laws make an action illegal after the action already occurred.  In this case, they are making it illegal to load 8 or more rounds in a magazine from this date forward.  Still sucks a$$ though...

Huh, my reading is that it is illegal to possess a magazine that may be loaded with more than 7 rounds.  ???
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: SADShooter on January 15, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
John Carpenter had a dark vision of the future with "Escape from New York".

A Cuomo Presidency would be a still darker vision called "Escape from America".



Sadly, we know there is no escape, except to change the future.
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: Ron on January 15, 2013, 08:08:47 PM
Post modernism has finally prevailed in America.

A lot of of the post modernists here don't really have any legitimate gripe against the current regime other than personal preference.
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: longeyes on January 15, 2013, 08:20:50 PM
Huh, my reading is that it is illegal to possess a magazine that may be loaded with more than 7 rounds.  ???

That was my interpretation also. In that case there are a lot of useless firearms in New York.

I don't see how this could possibly pass SCOTUS muster.
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: red headed stranger on January 15, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
I'm pretty sure that his enthusiasm for this legislation would cost him too many swing states for him to be able hold national office. 
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: RocketMan on January 15, 2013, 08:49:50 PM
Cuomo may have to run against Obama in a primary.  I'm thinking there will be a concerted, and possibly successful, effort to repeal the 22nd Amd. before then.
Title: Re: Remember Cuomo in 2016
Post by: SADShooter on January 15, 2013, 11:16:27 PM
Cuomo may have to run against Obama in a primary.  I'm thinking there will be a concerted, and possibly successful, effort to repeal the 22nd Amd. before then.

In light of the fact that by ceasing to have any power of the purse by a) not passing a budget for years, and b) abrogating authority over accrual of debt, the Legislative Branch will have, arguably no longer perform any meaningful function, and the Judicial is no sustantive check on Executive power, why not proceed directly to Dictatorship?