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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on January 19, 2013, 10:31:15 PM
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For the record, 36-year-old Gary Lynn Wilson of Wilmington, is an idiot.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/19/3-hurt-in-accidental-shooting-at-north-carolina-gun-show/?test=latestnews
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:facepalm:
Unfortunate timing.
Damnit.
Excuse me while I go rant to myself in a coner for awhile *grumble grumble*
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Unfortunate timing indeed. I can't remember the last time I saw a story on gun show accidents, yet just right now people are all of a sudden becoming butterfingered and stupid. Hmm. It simply can't have anything to do with the media.
On the Fox News main page, right underneath the link I posted, was another one where an Ohio gun dealer pulled the trigger on a pistol that he popped the magazine out of. The one in the chamber went off, bounced off the floor, and hit his buddy.
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Far more people at the gun shows. Far more guns being bought and sold. Accidents are far more likely.
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Far more people at the gun shows. Far more guns being bought and sold. Accidents are far more likely.
That and the media is much more likely to pay attention to it. I've heard of this happening before, but it almost never made national news that I recall. Just chatter on gun boards with a link to a local news outlet.
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That and the media is much more likely to pay attention to it. I've heard of this happening before, but it almost never made national news that I recall. Just chatter on gun boards with a link to a local news outlet.
Yes. Right now, we are under a freeking microscope.
It would be a good idea to behave accordingly.
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Yes. Right now, we are under a heavily biased freeking microscope.
It would be a good idea to behave accordingly.
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http://www.examiner.com/article/police-officer-accidentally-discharges-weapon-at-gun-show-raleigh-nc
According to first-hand eyewitnesses, it went off in police hands, not in owner hands. And was a rifle, not a shotgun.
Regardless, the notion of transporting a weapon you intend to sell in an armed state is pretty stupid. But more media bias?
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But more media bias?
http://tinyurl.com/atmk9h8
Officials say three people were wounded when gunfire erupted
Bias? What bias. I don't see any bias here - none at all. [/Baghdad Bob]
Remember when the only things that erupted were volcanoes and acne?
And at least there was a physical cause for them, unlike gunfire that just magically happens.
stay safe.
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I move that the term "gunfire erupted," also phrased as "eruption of gunfire," and all similar combined uses of the words "erupt" and "gunfire" be defined as having no less than 3 belt-fed and/or 5 magazine fed select fire weapons being fired simultaneously with no less than 400 rounds of ammunition being expended in less than one minute.
[popcorn]
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My brother tried to go to that gunshow, but the lines to get in were too long. He said it was a 2+ hour wait to get in the door.
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I was at the Saxet show in Austin several years ago when an exhibitor I had walked past just a few minutes before had a negligent discharge; nobody hurt, it hit the floor and the ricochet from the concrete didn't hit anyone.
The careless exhibitor was a retired sheriff's deputy.
He was packed up, gone and banned for life from the show within 10 minutes. By the time I'd made a circuit of the show, there was already someone else at his (former) table.
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In other news, someone fell off a ladder while cleaning leaves out of the roof gutters.
:P
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And someone was intentionally shot at an MLK parade.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/01/20/shooting-martin-luther-king-jr-parade-mississippi_n_2515307.html?icid=hp_crime_art_more
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three shootings at 3 shows :facepalm:
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three shootings at 3 shows :facepalm:
Um. That NEVER happens.
Gunshow shootings are scarce as hens' teeth, typically.
The misreporting of the NC incident is sketchy... blaming the discharge on the owner rather than the handler (the cop).
I will remain skeptical of the other 2 incidents' quality of reporting and assertions of culpability, as well.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/20/5-hurt-shootings-gun-shows-ohio-ind-nc/
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Um. That NEVER happens.
Gunshow shootings are scarce as hens' teeth, typically.
The misreporting of the NC incident is sketchy... blaming the discharge on the owner rather than the handler (the cop).
I will remain skeptical of the other 2 incidents' quality of reporting and assertions of culpability, as well.
I understand these things are packed to the gills as of late, bound to be a lot of knuckleheads with no understanding of the rules of safety in attendance.
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Ah, the old "I didn't know it was loaded" trick, eh? Happens to the best of em...
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/01/11/exclusive-loaded-revolutionary-war-era-cannon-found-in-central-park/
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Um. That NEVER happens.
Gunshow shootings are scarce as hens' teeth, typically.
The misreporting of the NC incident is sketchy... blaming the discharge on the owner rather than the handler (the cop).
I will remain skeptical of the other 2 incidents' quality of reporting and assertions of culpability, as well.
Let's not be too hasty to throw all the blame on the police, here. Multiple sources including both CNN and a local TV station are quoting the police chief in charge of security (?) for the show as saying that the discharge occurred before any officer touched the firearm. One of those said the owner dropped it taking it out of the case, triggering the discharge.
Bozo owner deserves a smack for bringing a loaded firearm to the show in the first place; sounds as though he may also deserve the blame for the negligent discharge, as well, from literally everything I've read. Unless all the media types are in on it, or else the cops in question are lying (not impossible, certainly...) AND their lie is being supported by one or more eyewitnesses (also quoted in one or both of the articles mentioned above)...
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On a slightly lighter note, I wish I had a birds eye veiw of the crowd when the gun discharged.
I'm betting there was a LOT of ducking heads and hands hovering at waistbands.
If only we could point that aspect out to the media "look, see all these people carry guns for SD. Had that been an attack, only those breaking the rules would have been able to stop it, and they would have! Furthermore, since it wasn't an attack all those guns stayed out of sight and didn't stupidly go off because the people with them arn't a bunch of trigger happy idiots like you want to belive."
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http://www.examiner.com/article/police-officer-accidentally-discharges-weapon-at-gun-show-raleigh-nc
According to first-hand eyewitnesses, it went off in police hands, not in owner hands. And was a rifle, not a shotgun.
Regardless, the notion of transporting a weapon you intend to sell in an armed state is pretty stupid. But more media bias?
generally the use of the letter s at the end of a word implies plural. Who was the other wtness.supporting mr "10 feet away"?
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And someone was intentionally shot at an MLK parade.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2013/01/20/shooting-martin-luther-king-jr-parade-mississippi_n_2515307.html?icid=hp_crime_art_more
Jackson police spokeswoman Colendula Green said it happened Saturday, shortly after noon, in the general area of the parade but not directly on the parade route.
So, if it happens within what, a fifty-mile radius of something the MSM can use to stir up the rabble, it happens at that place/event?
If that's the case, y'all might want to be prepared to read about the militia* gathering that takes place at the Presidential Inauguration tomorrow. Look for my picture - ought to make the front page of WaPo.
stay safe.
* militia, per the MSM, is one or more people with evill black guns
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Exactly. And how many of those idiots are there 'undercover' to 'prove' how dangerous gun shows are? (Yes, I can be quite cynical at times, thank you ;-) )
Far more people at the gun shows. Far more guns being bought and sold. Accidents are far more likely.
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Negligent discharges at gun shows are pretty rare. But 4-5 in a day in 4 different states? Enemy action.
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In other news, someone fell off a ladder while cleaning leaves out of the roof gutters.
:P
Also, ~29,600 people wrecked their cars and ended up killing ~98 people.
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Also, ~29,600 people wrecked their cars and ended up killing ~98 people.
And ~25,000 died from the flu.
As it stands anyone can go out and get the flu without any sort of background check or training, and then proceed to try to kill people indiscriminately and without their even being aware of it! We obviously need tighter flu control laws, flu ownership permits, 5 day flu contraction waiting periods and a ban on cough silencers (antitussive medication), no honest man needs to be able to spread the flu quietly and without warning! [popcorn]
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And ~25,000 died from the flu.
Er...all in one day? This flu season is worse than I thought. :O
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Er...all in one day? This flu season is worse than I thought. :O
Well the report about the deaths was released in a single day, so that's totally the same thing as them all happening at once, right? And, errr uhhh.... SO SHUT UP! Lets not let silly and trivial "facts" get in the way of my truth and political career. We need a flu ban, for the children! If even one cop goes home without someone trying to kill them with these assault germs then it'll be worth it. If you don't support a law requiring everyone to stop getting the flu then you're racist who hates America... and kittens. Black kittens. Because you're a racist. Who hates anything not white......... so there!
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There was a minor incident at a local IDPA match two weekends ago. My chapter - I wasn't there but several friends were. ND while guy was muzzle-sweeping his hand (either while drawing or attempting to holster, I don't recall) and shot himself in the hand. There were two docs on hand and several EMTs with kits handy, so he was patched up and sent to the hospital where he was released a couple hours later.
It didn't make the news, thankfully.
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Tens of millions of responsible gun owners have never caused a negligent discharge.
If anyone is to blame (other than a few idiots), it is the vulturous media and politicians who have triggered a gun buying panic ;/
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add a nd at the shot show by a security guard
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add a nd at the shot show by a security guard
You can't count that - he was a professional and therefore must have known what he was doing. (Sure hope it was not a Glock Fo-tay.)
stay safe.
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it mystifies me that gun shows want you to handle your gun but don't have a clearing barrel ( I'm not sure what they're called, you know, those barrels made for clearing your gun ) ...
When I worked at loomis we were not allowed to handle our guns unless we pointed them inside the barrel and cleared/inspected the chamber. Why cant gunshows do this too?
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it mystifies me that gun shows want you to handle your gun but don't have a clearing barrel ( I'm not sure what they're called, you know, those barrels made for clearing your gun ) ...
When I worked at loomis we were not allowed to handle our guns unless we pointed them inside the barrel and cleared/inspected the chamber. Why cant gunshows do this too?
Because it'd make sense?
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it mystifies me that gun shows want you to handle your gun but don't have a clearing barrel ( I'm not sure what they're called, you know, those barrels made for clearing your gun ) ...
When I worked at loomis we were not allowed to handle our guns unless we pointed them inside the barrel and cleared/inspected the chamber. Why cant gunshows do this too?
You nailed it, clearing barrels. They've also come in rather compact models for the last decade or so.
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update
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/foghorn/update-on-raleigh-gun-show-nd/