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Title: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 21, 2013, 09:52:10 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265402/Adventurous-human-woman-wanted-birth-Neanderthal-man-Harvard-professor.html?ito=feeds-newsxml


Whack-a-doodle wants to bring Neanderthals back.  And wants to use a human uterus as the growth environment.

The resulting offspring would be... human?  Animal?  Held in a zoo?  Confined to a laboratory complex?  Cared for by his mother for the rest of his life?  Legal status of sentient non-homo-sapiens is not established, and this would be homo-neanderthalensis.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: mtnbkr on January 21, 2013, 10:11:13 AM
Are you that desperate for a date? ???

Chris
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Tallpine on January 21, 2013, 10:17:08 AM
Mankind had finally advanced to the point that we are able to reverse the process of evolution  =D
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Doggy Daddy on January 21, 2013, 10:21:59 AM
Mankind had finally advanced to the point that we are able to reverse the process of evolution  =D

So, this is the first you've heard of Daily Kos  ???  ;/
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on January 21, 2013, 10:36:33 AM
i've married twice and turned down 2 other opportunities so they will get takers on that offer
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Fitz on January 21, 2013, 10:51:42 AM
Need to come to my house and see my kid if they want to see the product of a human woman and Neanderthal man
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Tallpine on January 21, 2013, 10:54:58 AM
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Neanderthals might think differently than we do. They could even be more intelligent than us.

I for one welcome our new Neanderthal overlords.   :angel:
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: TechMan on January 21, 2013, 11:00:56 AM
I for one welcome our new Neanderthal overlords.   :angel:


Maybe we could use them to replace our current crop of congresscritters, it couldn't get any worse. ???
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: zxcvbob on January 21, 2013, 11:18:07 AM
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Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: HankB on January 21, 2013, 12:18:50 PM
This is a NEW program?  ???

I've been to some parts of Chicago where . . .

Never mind.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: AJ Dual on January 21, 2013, 12:57:10 PM
The Neanderthals didn't exactly go extinct. The genes in our own DNA show that while they disappeared as a species, they were assimilated and absorbed into the neolithic Homo Sapiens populations of Eurasia. Possibly their largest long-term contribution was a particular gene relating to our immune systems, and since these were concentrated in the European end of the land-mass, and to a lesser degree on the Asian end, it may well have played a role in the more disastrous elements of European contact with the Western hemisphere in regards to disease.

And their stone tools, the flaking geometry and construction methods were often more intricate than some comparable Homo Sapiens tools. The flint knapping techniques were more complex. The "Smarter" Homo Sapiens may have figured out easier ways to do some things, and passed this along, but the skill required in some Neanderthal tools was greater. Judging by tools alone, they may not have been as "smart" as Homo Sapiens, but only for doing it "the hard way".

Other theories that believed Neanderthals didn't have "Religion", or "Art", have been proven wrong, with finding archaeological indications of funerary rites/offerings, and jewelry/decorations...

The complex tools, the decorations and signs of other complex cultural activities makes the last idea that they didn't have a similar language faculty as Homo Sapiens to convey all this information to each other difficult to believe too.

Meh.. I have a suspicion that the results might actually be underwhelming beyond physical appearance. Especially with no real way to socialize this prospective Neanderthal child in Neanderthal culture. Even then, I have to ask if it would be all that different, considering the genetic evidence is there that the populations were similar enough to interbreed as they did. I suppose one could theorize that it was all by force with no basis in cultural compatibility, with no real way to prove or disprove that archaeologically or paleologically, but it seems unlikely to me.

Considering that it's possible to socialize a gorilla into keeping a kitten as a pet, expressing it's grief when it died, and having the vocabulary (In American Sign Language) of a kindergartner, I don't think that if these researchers actually pull it off, they'll find something all that groundbreaking, other than the actual attempt and the birth of a viable Neanderthal child itself.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Tallpine on January 21, 2013, 01:36:15 PM
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no real way to socialize this prospective Neanderthal child in Neanderthal culture

Just have him read the "Cave Bear" series  =)
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Harold Tuttle on January 21, 2013, 01:52:18 PM
http://youtu.be/riJ4LPzHppg
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: MillCreek on January 21, 2013, 02:46:31 PM
Just have him read the "Cave Bear" series  =)

And see the movie.  If I recall correctly, Darryl Hannah invents the missionary position.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Tallpine on January 21, 2013, 03:50:30 PM
And see the movie.  If I recall correctly, Darryl Hannah invents the missionary position.

She was an Adventurous Human Woman   =)
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on January 21, 2013, 03:55:53 PM
I... Uhhh.... Wow...

someone really needs to send this guy all the movies where scentific discovery leads to death and dismemberment, and none of the scientist survive.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: zxcvbob on January 21, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
I... Uhhh.... Wow...

someone really needs to send this guy all the movies where scentific discovery leads to death and dismemberment, and none of the scientist survive.

"It's Alive" (1974) -- Newborn baby kills all the doctors and nurses in the delivery room and escapes through a ventilation shaft.  :D  I don't remember if it lived the the sewers afterwards or what. 

Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Lee on January 21, 2013, 05:46:09 PM
I thought she was half fish.
Regardless...me like...trade fire for that.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: kgbsquirrel on January 21, 2013, 06:41:44 PM
Mankind had finally advanced to the point that we are able to reverse the process of evolution  =D

I thought OSHA and other nanny organizations already accomplished that?
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 21, 2013, 06:55:06 PM
I think the genes are still in circulation. I went through boot camp with a fellow that could have been a model for Neanderthal man exhibits in any museum in the world. Hell of a nice guy.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: MrsSmith on January 21, 2013, 07:47:16 PM
Yeah, but Larry, didn't you go through boot camp when Neanderthals were still around?

 :rofl:
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 21, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
Yeah, but Larry, didn't you go through boot camp when Neanderthals were still around?

 :rofl:

Nah, They'd been gone a few years by 1980.


Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: MechAg94 on January 21, 2013, 08:50:33 PM
Just have him read the "Cave Bear" series  =)
That would work until he realized women won't obey that proper hand signs. 


A couple of those books were really hard to read.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: vaskidmark on January 22, 2013, 07:19:57 AM
I think the genes are still in circulation. I went through boot camp with a fellow that could have been a model for Neanderthal man exhibits in any museum in the world. Hell of a nice guy.

So, you had one of the "modern" Drill Sergeants?

Back in The Old Corps we had Skhuls and Qatzehs and liked it, whether we liked it or not.

stay safe.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 22, 2013, 08:03:47 AM
So, you had one of the "modern" Drill Sergeants?

Back in The Old Corps we had Skhuls and Qatzehs and liked it, whether we liked it or not.

stay safe.

Nah, he was just another recruit. He had the bottom bunk I had the top. We got along pretty good kind of reminds me now of Bubba from Forrest Gump. He could scratch his knees with out bending over.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: MrsSmith on January 22, 2013, 10:19:05 AM
Nah, They'd been gone a few years by 1980.


I hate it when an age joke backfires.
Title: Re: 'Adventurous Human Women' Needed... as petrie dishes for neanderthal cloning
Post by: Tallpine on January 22, 2013, 11:20:23 AM
I think the genes are still in circulation. I went through boot camp with a fellow that could have been a model for Neanderthal man exhibits in any museum in the world. Hell of a nice guy.

I had a grade school classmate with the skull/facial features of an ape.  =|

Admittedly this was way back during early Hippiecene era  :lol:

He wasn't exactly at the top of the class, either.  Back then, I was what would later become known as a nerd.  Oddly enough, I tended to hang around with the D/F students just because I wasn't into sports and never fit in with the "popular" kids.

I often wonder what happened to him.  I can't remember his name of course  :facepalm: