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Title: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: vaskidmark on March 14, 2013, 02:21:05 PM
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From here http://www.tailgunnerexhaust.com/

Wonder if I you could fit them to a minivan?

stay safe.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 14, 2013, 02:37:47 PM
Meh. Ranks right up there with spinning rims on cars. ;)
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Fitz on March 14, 2013, 02:41:21 PM
Theres a dude in my motorcycle club who has that. His bike is painted OD green, with stars on it. He's also the road guard for large rides. He does VERY well at keeping cars out of our formation
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 14, 2013, 03:22:15 PM
Meh. Ranks right up there with spinning rims on cars. ;)

. . . and truck nuts.

I wonder how long before the gummint requires that the muzzles be painted orange.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: BobR on March 14, 2013, 03:50:47 PM
I prefer ball bearings tossed over my shoulder to make people back off, but hey, that is just me.  =D

bob
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: HankB on March 14, 2013, 03:59:46 PM
I prefer ball bearings tossed over my shoulder to make people back off, but hey, that is just me.  =D

bob
Understand dislike for tailgaters . . . but this could escalate things to a point that won't do anyone any good . . . 
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 14, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
I prefer ball bearings tossed over my shoulder to make people back off, but hey, that is just me.  =D

bob
As long as you are judicial in your application.  Tapping the brakes works sometimes, but I have had people do that when I had just pulled up and was backing off as well as when I was still 50 yards back.  Different people have different ideas about exactly what tailgating is.

That said, I like that tailgunner idea.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: DustinD on March 15, 2013, 03:15:57 AM
Don't rocks have better plausible deny-ability? On the other hand they aren't that dense.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 15, 2013, 03:27:20 AM
Don't rocks have better plausible deny-ability? On the other hand they aren't that dense.

When I was young and foolisher I would carry a few metric nuts in a vest pocket. I'm riding a Harley, couldn't have come off my bike.
Now days I just slow down. They'll either go around or I'll pull over and let them have the road first chance I get.
I also still enjoy a bit of the Copenhagen while riding.  =D
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 15, 2013, 09:48:06 AM
The last couple bikes I saw were riding above the speed limit and using the vastly superior maneuverability of the motorcycle's size to zip in and out of traffic.  Color me unsypmathetic if those guys are being scraped off the pavement one day.
Oh, and when I'm passing a Semi truck on the left, passing on the right on your harley and then changing lanes in my blindspot and giving me the finger? 
Too many idiots on motorcycles these days.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: RevDisk on March 15, 2013, 10:36:35 AM
Too many idiots on motorcycles these days.

Fixed for ya.

Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Fitz on March 15, 2013, 10:51:37 AM
The last couple bikes I saw were riding above the speed limit and using the vastly superior maneuverability of the motorcycle's size to zip in and out of traffic.  Color me unsypmathetic if those guys are being scraped off the pavement one day.
Oh, and when I'm passing a Semi truck on the left, passing on the right on your harley and then changing lanes in my blindspot and giving me the finger? 
Too many idiots on motorcycles these days.

As a motorcyclist and MSF coach, I agree with this sentiment.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 15, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
The most dangerous thing I've seen motorcycle riders and sportcar drivers do is go so fast by traffic that you didn't have time to even register that they were coming up behind you.  

The most annoying thing I saw a group of 3 or 4 motorcycles people do (one had a tricycle) was turn on their left blinker when a passing opportunity (few and far between) came up to keep people from passing them.  I generally don't tail gate people unless I am actively trying to pass, but I have occasionally found myself tailgating very close when people actively try to be jerks on the road.  I think I ended up passing a couple of them and cutting back inbetween their group which got their little carravan all split up.  

Lots of jerks of all kinds on the roads sometimes, but I am always surprised when I see them behaving that way on small two-wheeled vehicles.  Thankfully, most people don't behave like that.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 15, 2013, 11:59:01 AM
The most dangerous thing I've seen motorcycle riders and sportcar drivers do is go so fast by traffic that you didn't have time to even register that they were coming up behind you. 

The most annoying thing I saw a group of 3 or 4 motorcycles people do (one had a tricycle) was turn on their left blinker when a passing opportunity (few and far between) came up to keep people from passing them.  I generally don't tail gate people unless I am actively trying to pass, but I have occasionally found myself tailgating very close when people actively try to be jerks on the road.  I think I ended up passing a couple of them and cutting back inbetween their group which got their little carravan all split up.  

Lots of jerks of all kinds on the roads sometimes, but I am always surprised when I see them behaving that way on small two-wheeled vehicles.  Thankfully, most people don't behave like that.


In addition to the speed, is ignoring the blind spots of cars. 
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Tallpine on March 15, 2013, 12:13:29 PM

In addition to the speed, is ignoring the blind spots of cars. 

The thing that makes me mad is that I do not want to kill or maim a biker because of his stupidity.

I almost got one when I was about 17.  My mom bought a new pickup but the one she wanted was at a dealer about 100 miles away.  So one Saturday I rode with the salesman up to Boulder to pick it up, and drove his demo C-10 back to Colorado Springs following him in our new pickup.  We passed a slower vehicle on I-25 and I had my signal on and was just about to return to the right lane (allowing for safe following distance for the vehicle just passed) when I glimpsed the top of a helmet just outside the passenger door window of the pickup  :O

Apparently, the idiot couldn't wait a few seconds for me to get back over in the right lane.   ;/  At 70mph, even a little bump would have probably knocked him down and killed him, not to mention likely being run over by the vehicle we had just passed.   =(

You normally don't need to look over your shoulder after passing.  I was taught that you need to see the overtaken vehicle in your outside right mirror before returning to the right lane.  Hell, if you're driving a commercial truck or even a pickup with a camper you can't see anything behind except in your mirrors anyway  :facepalm:
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: CNYCacher on March 15, 2013, 12:37:10 PM
The most dangerous thing I've seen motorcycle riders and sportcar drivers do is go so fast by traffic that you didn't have time to even register that they were coming up behind you.

I've seen that with snowmobiles.

Yes I was in my car.

That's Upstate NY for you.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: RoadKingLarry on March 15, 2013, 05:53:32 PM
The wife and I took the bike out for an afternoon ride today. Just over to a nearby lake. There's a little store that sells the coldest pop around, usually have to wait for the ice to melt in it. We rode over, got a pop, and went and sat and watched the lake for a while.

Coming back we were bucking a stif quartering cross wind and traffic was a little slow. I was following a little convertible and was a safe following distance  behind.  A flatbed 1 ton and a little car following him decided they had to pass us on a hilly, twisty section in a no passing zone. I had to downshift and ride the brakes pretty hard to get out of their way when they moved back over. The passenger in the car shot me the bird as they came back over. A few miles up the road at an intersection they were waiting to turn as I rolled passed and returned the salute.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: gunsmith on March 16, 2013, 12:55:00 AM
I always maneuver away from cars while on my bike.
Either by going fast enough to get away from the flock of cages or going slower.
So what if I zip through the cars? That's why I'm on the bike, If I want to be stuck in traffic I'll drive the car.
When I'm driving a car I could care less if I do not have time to notice the bike that passed me.
It happens all the time in places that have yr round motorcycle riders.
Tailgaters? Either in my car or bike If I cant move out of the way I slow down, heck I've even stopped.
The only time I usually get tailgated is if I'm in the fast lane, so I figure why not move over and let them pass when safe to do so..
Last week I made a rare trip to CA and was being tailgated by an idiot in a mall parking lot, I was going 10mph, ( with my hazard lights flashing)  looking for a drug store. The guy rushes up behind me and honks. I ignore. He gets right up behind me and turns on his brights, so I stop dead. He honks some more then has to back up so he can get around me. :rofl:
If you tailgate me, fine, be prepared to get stuck behind me.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Fitz on March 16, 2013, 12:58:35 AM
Zipping by without folks noticin you is fine


Until they change lanes while you're doing it
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: erictank on March 16, 2013, 04:59:12 AM
Zipping by without folks noticin you is fine


Until they change lanes while you're doing it

This. Stupid behavior in a car has a good chance of being very expensive.

Stupid behavior on a motorcycle has a good chance of being FATAL.

If you're weaving in and out of traffic on your bike because you can't be bothered to wait, and have a close encounter with someone making a legal lane change because neither of you saw the other, THEY aren't the ones who are going to the hospital or morgue. Think about that the next time you (speaking generically, that is) get all smug about whipping past "cagers" without any concern for whether you're visible, maybe.

Best response to tailgaters is to come off the gas and be ready on the brakes, IMO. They WILL pull out and pass you, eventually. Unless you can activate your reverse lights without actually shifting into reverse, that was my favorite thing when I had a car that could do it. People tend to suddenly get religion about not tailgating you when you flash your backing lights at them.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Boomhauer on March 16, 2013, 08:23:30 AM
Since we are ranting about bad drivers...when Im trying to make a lane change and I put on my blinker, dont suddenly decide that you have to zoom up and cut me off instead of hanging back like youve been doing the past 10 minutes. *expletive deleted*ing aholes!
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: birdman on March 16, 2013, 09:43:03 AM
This. Stupid behavior in a car has a good chance of being very expensive.

Stupid behavior on a motorcycle has a good chance of being FATAL.

If you're weaving in and out of traffic on your bike because you can't be bothered to wait, and have a close encounter with someone making a legal lane change because neither of you saw the other, THEY aren't the ones who are going to the hospital or morgue. Think about that the next time you (speaking generically, that is) get all smug about whipping past "cagers" without any concern for whether you're visible, maybe.

Best response to tailgaters is to come off the gas and be ready on the brakes, IMO. They WILL pull out and pass you, eventually. Unless you can activate your reverse lights without actually shifting into reverse, that was my favorite thing when I had a car that could do it. People tend to suddenly get religion about not tailgating you when you flash your backing lights at them.

Having the cars behind you, in this day of no signal lane changes, is safer.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Tallpine on March 16, 2013, 11:13:16 AM
Quote
Best response to tailgaters is to come off the gas and be ready on the brakes, IMO. They WILL pull out and pass you, eventually.

I dunno ... I've actually pulled over on the shoulder and had people pull over behind me  :facepalm:


Passing seems to be a sport to some people.  A long straight stretch of highway with no oncoming traffic in sight is just no challenge.  Better wait until a curve or hill is coming up  :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Best response to tailgaters is to come off the gas and be ready on the brakes, IMO. They WILL pull out and pass you, eventually. Unless you can activate your reverse lights without actually shifting into reverse, that was my favorite thing when I had a car that could do it. People tend to suddenly get religion about not tailgating you when you flash your backing lights at them.
If I can pass already, I wouldn't be tailgating.  I'd either back off or pass. 

I try to drive with that saying in mind "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".  I do forget at times though.   =)
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2013, 11:42:11 AM
Since we are ranting about bad drivers...when Im trying to make a lane change and I put on my blinker, dont suddenly decide that you have to zoom up and cut me off instead of hanging back like youve been doing the past 10 minutes. *expletive deleted* aholes!
What I see is the exact opposite.  I'll be closing the distance on cruise control in the left lane and that slow driver who has been following the 18 wheeler for 10 miles will wait until I am almost on him before deciding now is the time to attempt to pass the truck (without speeding up at all).  That happens so often I almost don't even get mad anymore, just a bit disgusted. 
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2013, 11:45:33 AM
Having the cars behind you, in this day of no signal lane changes, is safer.
I agree with that.  Hanging with the "herd" as most drivers seem to do is not really all that safe and IMO more uncomfortable. 

However, I generally push 9 to 10 above the speed limit.  When someone blows by me unseen going 25 or more over the speed limit, that is a bit fast and demands good defensive driving skills on the part of the fast driver/rider. 
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: roo_ster on March 16, 2013, 11:47:52 AM
2 wheels or 4, plenty of stupid to go around.

What I see is the exact opposite.  I'll be closing the distance on cruise control in the left lane and that slow driver who has been following the 18 wheeler for 10 miles will wait until I am almost on him before deciding now is the time to attempt to pass the truck (without speeding up at all).  That happens so often I almost don't even get mad anymore, just a bit disgusted.  

Just got back for a car trip and had that happen a lot.

Since we are ranting about bad drivers...when Im trying to make a lane change and I put on my blinker, dont suddenly decide that you have to zoom up and cut me off instead of hanging back like youve been doing the past 10 minutes. *expletive deleted* aholes!

When I drove my 14YO truck by my own self, I just kept a-coming.  "Go ahead.  My truck is worth less than the deductible on your shiny new sphinctermobile."  Chowder heads always backed off, for some reason.

Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2013, 11:51:44 AM
I dunno ... I've actually pulled over on the shoulder and had people pull over behind me  :facepalm:


Passing seems to be a sport to some people.  A long straight stretch of highway with no oncoming traffic in sight is just no challenge.  Better wait until a curve or hill is coming up  :facepalm:  :facepalm:  :facepalm:
I think some people just won't or cant make a decision to pass or change lanes (or they are distracted).  To me, changing lanes is just part of driving.  I do it all the time with little thought about it beyond checking to make sure the way is clear.  I ride with people who will see a slow driver coming up for 60 seconds yet come right up behind them slowing down before even starting to look at changing lanes to go around them.  It bugs me because I would have changed lanes or planned to within moments of see the slower car ahead and never touched the brakes at all.  I hate slowing down if I don't have to.  
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 16, 2013, 11:58:46 AM
When I drove my 14YO truck by my own self, I just kept a-coming.  "Go ahead.  My truck is worth less than the deductible on your shiny new sphinctermobile."  Chowder heads always backed off, for some reason.


I just catch the turn signal as I turn the steering wheel so I do signal a lane change without giving any actual notice before doing it.  I thought Houston was notorious for getting cut off if you signaled a lane change too long, but I guess it happens everywhere. 

On the other side of that, I often see people driving slow behind other traffic turn on their blinker as I am coming up fast in the next lane as if I am suppposed to slam the breaks to let them in.  I appreciate the signal, but I ain't going to slow down for 'em.  Give it some gas if they want to get moving.  As long as they speed up, I don't mind them coming over in front of me.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: gunsmith on March 16, 2013, 01:41:26 PM
This. Stupid behavior in a car has a good chance of being very expensive.

Stupid behavior on a motorcycle has a good chance of being FATAL.

If you're weaving in and out of traffic on your bike because you can't be bothered to wait, and have a close encounter with someone making a legal lane change because neither of you saw the other, THEY aren't the ones who are going to the hospital or morgue. Think about that the next time you (speaking generically, that is) get all smug about whipping past "cagers" without any concern for whether you're visible, maybe.



Bovine excrement,  I've ridden like I do for a long, long time. As a motorcycle courier for over ten years I had an average of 1000 miles a week, all year long.
Just because you cant do it or that people you know cant do it or you've been told it cant be done I assure you I've done it quite safely for untold hundreds of thousands of miles.
Maybe you're thinking I'm talking about city driving? I'll agree that city driving is a lot more dangerous.
I'm talking about highway driving at highway speeds.
I prefer car drivers not know I'm there, as far as zipping through traffic? I do it but I'm not suggesting everyone do it, especially if it makes you nervous. People changing lanes are of no concern to me, the only time it has been a problem is when I'm driving like you guys think I should.  I've had people move into my lane without looking, and have been forced to lane split to get out of their way.   The people making the rules have little to no long term motorcycle experience.
Before the notion to change their lane enters the mind of the typical driver I am already gone or was never there to begin with.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Tallpine on March 16, 2013, 01:49:05 PM
Bovine excrement,  I've ridden like I do for a long, long time. As a motorcycle courier for over ten years I had an average of 1000 miles a week, all year long.
Just because you cant do it or that people you know cant do it or you've been told it cant be done I assure you I've done it quite safely for untold hundreds of thousands of miles.
Maybe you're thinking I'm talking about city driving? I'll agree that city driving is a lot more dangerous.
I'm talking about highway driving at highway speeds.
I prefer car drivers not know I'm there, as far as zipping through traffic? I do it but I'm not suggesting everyone do it, especially if it makes you nervous. People changing lanes are of no concern to me, the only time it has been a problem is when I'm driving like you guys think I should.  I've had people move into my lane without looking, and have been forced to lane split to get out of their way.   The people making the rules have little to no long term motorcycle experience.
Before the notion to change their lane enters the mind of the typical driver I am already gone or was never there to begin with.

Well, the typical motorcycle rider constantly complains because all the other drivers don't have eyes in the back of their heads.

Sounds like you're not one of them.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: tokugawa on March 16, 2013, 04:42:02 PM
The cars behind you are way harder to see than the ones in front. Has something to do with eye placement.
 And a bike is way more maneuverable than a car, and handles best under power. Far far safer to go a bit faster than traffic so the cars in front of you are the main ones to worry about, rather than the ones behind.
 Anytime there is someone on your ass, your evasive capability is tremendously reduced, and as action to swerve or brake will have them running you over.

 No, I am not talking about running 30 over, doing wheelies splitting lanes with flip flops on-
 
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: gunsmith on March 16, 2013, 05:21:39 PM
Well, the typical motorcycle rider constantly complains because all the other drivers don't have eyes in the back of their heads.

Sounds like you're not one of them.

You sure got that right, the typical mc rider is like the typical fudd that believes "them assault weapons need to be banned"
Like the fudd, he uses his gun a few times in warm weather and thinks this makes him an expert in the history of the concept of armed liberty. The typical mc rider rides maybe a couple times a month in warm weather for fun. He will not lose his job if he takes his time while riding.

My mc experience is high speed delivery of important legal documents and small packages of a time sensitive nature.
"Make it to the Sacramento Court House to time stamp this document today"  ... Only a pro can do that from San Francisco in an hour and a half, in the rain, on a motorcycle in heavy CA traffic.   Day after day after day for years and years.

Its counter intuitive but think of it like the gun argument, to those who don't know the "more guns more crime" argument makes sense.  The "we can't give college students guns" argument makes sense until you realize the older lady employee alone on campus is prevented from protecting herself because alarmist know that "drunk frat boys will kill someone".
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: CNYCacher on March 16, 2013, 05:51:40 PM
You sure got that right, the typical mc rider is like the typical fudd that believes "them assault weapons need to be banned"
Like the fudd, he uses his gun a few times in warm weather and thinks this makes him an expert in the history of the concept of armed liberty. The typical mc rider rides maybe a couple times a month in warm weather for fun. He will not lose his job if he takes his time while riding.

My mc experience is high speed delivery of important legal documents and small packages of a time sensitive nature.
"Make it to the Sacramento Court House to time stamp this document today"  ... Only a pro can do that from San Francisco in an hour and a half, in the rain, on a motorcycle in heavy CA traffic.   Day after day after day for years and years.

Its counter intuitive but think of it like the gun argument, to those who don't know the "more guns more crime" argument makes sense.  The "we can't give college students guns" argument makes sense until you realize the older lady employee alone on campus is prevented from protecting herself because alarmist know that "drunk frat boys will kill someone".

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Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: gunsmith on March 16, 2013, 10:29:11 PM
 ;/

typical NY response.


edited to add
(from me of course)

Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: CNYCacher on March 16, 2013, 10:42:33 PM
;/

typical NY response.



Them's fightin' words.

Perhaps Mr House failed to portray my feelings about your rant, which were basically "This guy sounds crazy at first but is making a lot of sense to me."
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: zxcvbob on March 16, 2013, 11:21:35 PM
Since we are ranting about bad drivers...when Im trying to make a lane change and I put on my blinker, dont suddenly decide that you have to zoom up and cut me off instead of hanging back like youve been doing the past 10 minutes. *expletive deleted* aholes!

You're driving a truck, ain't ya?  After you signal, just start slowing moving over without looking and they'll figure out they need to be somewhere else real quick.  This works especially well if you have a 4500 lb rust-bucket that looks uninsurable  >:D
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: gunsmith on March 16, 2013, 11:39:50 PM
Them's fightin' words.

Perhaps Mr House failed to portray my feelings about your rant, which were basically "This guy sounds crazy at first but is making a lot of sense to me."

Well, I am a new yorker after all, sorry! :facepalm:
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Tallpine on March 17, 2013, 11:19:11 AM
Yeah, I really don't care how fast or crazy the bikers ride. 

Just don't blame me when you become pavement pizza  ;)
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on March 17, 2013, 11:37:35 AM
Well, I saw one motercycle driver this week that I really appreciated.

He (or she) was on a black bike with black leathers, but had a hot pink strip of fuzzy stuff on top of the helmet, like a roman helmet creast.

In addition too being silly and neato, they were *very* visable.

I don't care so much how you drive your bike, but I do like knowing that you are there, preferably before you pass me at high speed on a loud bike, so I don't get startled.

I didn't like the guy who was on a dull bike, wearing OD green and canvas, parked in the shade and not fully on the side of the road on a curve.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: White Horseradish on March 17, 2013, 11:42:22 AM
There was one guy last summer I just wanted to slap. He had one of these real loud straight pipe cruisers and he got into the blind spot of my truck. He stayed there all the way through a long ramp and a ways on the highway. I could hear him, but I couldn't tell where the hell he was, since he was invisible and the sound seemed to be coming from everywhere. Why he couldn't have dropped two feet back, I'll never know...
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Monkeyleg on March 17, 2013, 11:54:44 AM
There was one guy last summer I just wanted to slap. He had one of these real loud straight pipe cruisers and he got into the blind spot of my truck. He stayed there all the way through a long ramp and a ways on the highway. I could hear him, but I couldn't tell where the hell he was, since he was invisible and the sound seemed to be coming from everywhere. Why he couldn't have dropped two feet back, I'll never know...

I see riders in someone's blind spot all the time, and just want to yell at them. I also see them sitting at stoplights with their hands on their laps, gazing off somewhere. I see all sorts of stupid riding.

I'd also rather be out in front of a bunch of cars than in the middle of the bunch or behind. I have a hard-mounted motor, so if the cars are going much over 75 mph, I'll stay well behind the pack (it's uncomfortable for long distance to have that vibration).

I've lane split before, but I'm not really experienced at it, and not entirely comfortable. I've had car drivers deliberately move out of their lanes to block me as I'm moving forward. Fortunately they didn't do so before I could stop.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: MechAg94 on March 17, 2013, 12:22:19 PM
There was one guy last summer I just wanted to slap. He had one of these real loud straight pipe cruisers and he got into the blind spot of my truck. He stayed there all the way through a long ramp and a ways on the highway. I could hear him, but I couldn't tell where the hell he was, since he was invisible and the sound seemed to be coming from everywhere. Why he couldn't have dropped two feet back, I'll never know...
Do a little swing to the edge of the lane boundary and you will likely see him move.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: White Horseradish on March 17, 2013, 12:45:32 PM
Well, I saw one motercycle driver this week that I really appreciated.

He (or she) was on a black bike with black leathers, but had a hot pink strip of fuzzy stuff on top of the helmet, like a roman helmet creast.

In addition too being silly and neato, they were *very* visable.
They actually make those out of rubber with lights inside, too.

I'd get one just to be silly, but it won't work on my helmet - I have a slider that works the sunshade right where such a crest would go.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: gunsmith on March 17, 2013, 04:06:06 PM
I see riders in someone's blind spot all the time, and just want to yell at them. I also see them sitting at stoplights with their hands on their laps, gazing off somewhere. I see all sorts of stupid riding.

I'd also rather be out in front of a bunch of cars than in the middle of the bunch or behind. I have a hard-mounted motor, so if the cars are going much over 75 mph, I'll stay well behind the pack (it's uncomfortable for long distance to have that vibration).

I've lane split before, but I'm not really experienced at it, and not entirely comfortable. I've had car drivers deliberately move out of their lanes to block me as I'm moving forward. Fortunately they didn't do so before I could stop.

Yeah, when I was a mc messenger in Florida people there really get bent out of shape if you lane split  and would try to block me.
I would exact revenge by getting in front of the car in front of them and decrease my speed to the minimum legal highway speed
 ( 40 mph )
I tried doing it in front of the offending driver but quickly found out that someone who would try to kill you by blocking your path while lane splitting will also try to kill you by running you over.
Yeah, I really don't care how fast or crazy the bikers ride. 

Just don't blame me when you become pavement pizza  ;)
Blame you?? No sir! That's why we have Fistful for!
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Boomhauer on March 17, 2013, 04:26:16 PM
Yeah, I really don't care how fast or crazy the bikers ride. 

Just don't blame me when you become pavement pizza  ;)

I will say I've had a lot less trouble out of the motorcyclists than the bicyclists. The motorcyclists tend to be normal guys. The bicyclists tend to be complete, utter aholes. Saw plenty of both at my old job.



Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: bedlamite on March 17, 2013, 04:51:39 PM
I don't care so much how you drive your bike, but I do like knowing that you are there, preferably before you pass me at high speed on a loud bike, so I don't get startled.


Part of this comes from the fact that there is a percentage of drivers that will cut off a bike just to cut off a bike. This has happened to me enough that when I pass a car, I do it quick enough they can't.

Oh, and hanging out in a blind spot is just dumb. So are straight pipes and flying through traffic.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: 41magsnub on March 17, 2013, 05:45:41 PM
I almost ran a motorcycle off the road last week.  The guy was tooling along around 20 under the speed limit on a 2 lane highway.  I'm in my truck that is far from overpowered so passing opportunities are rare.  Finally after several miles I get one and punch it out into the opposing lane and just start to get past the bike when he decided he didn't want to be passed and started matching my speed.  When I slowed down he slowed down.  I could neither out accelerate or out brake him.  I piled on the brakes when oncoming traffic and swung back in behind him.  I should have just taken the dipshit out.  It takes a special kind of stupid to play chicken on a motorcycle against a beat up old full size pickup.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on March 17, 2013, 07:18:23 PM

Part of this comes from the fact that there is a percentage of drivers that will cut off a bike someone just to cut off [/s] a bike [/s] someone. This has happened to me enough that when I pass a car, I do it quick enough they can't.

Oh, and hanging out in a blind spot is just dumb. So are straight pipes and flying through traffic.

FIFY

However, for those of us who don't cut off other drivers, it can be rather disturbing. :)
Unlike the rest of the posters on this thread, I don't claim to be the worlds best driver. In fact, I'm not a great driver. I save myself from acceidents by sticking much closer to the posted speed limit, being observaint and driving somewhat conservativly.
Me being startled on behind the wheel is not a good thing for anyone. ;)
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Regolith on March 17, 2013, 07:29:48 PM
It takes a special kind of stupid to play chicken on a motorcycle against a beat up old full size pickup.

Especially when he's trying to force you to decide between plowing into oncoming traffic or just running his ass over.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: bedlamite on March 17, 2013, 08:09:41 PM
BSL, for every time I've been cut off in a car it's happened a hundred times on a bike, and I have a lot more miles on 4 wheels.

A wise old man on a motorcycle once told me not to worry about the people who don't see you on a bike, worry about the ones that do and use the advantages of the bike to be where they can't.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: gunsmith on March 18, 2013, 12:26:41 AM
I almost ran a motorcycle off the road last week.  The guy was tooling along around 20 under the speed limit on a 2 lane highway.  I'm in my truck that is far from overpowered so passing opportunities are rare.  Finally after several miles I get one and punch it out into the opposing lane and just start to get past the bike when he decided he didn't want to be passed and started matching my speed.  When I slowed down he slowed down.  I could neither out accelerate or out brake him.  I piled on the brakes when oncoming traffic and swung back in behind him.  I should have just taken the dipshit out.  It takes a special kind of stupid to play chicken on a motorcycle against a beat up old full size pickup.

What kind of bike was it?

I hate when people do that, I like to drive slow sometimes but either get out of the way or pull over if someone is getting stuck behind me.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: 41magsnub on March 18, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
What kind of bike was it?

I hate when people do that, I like to drive slow sometimes but either get out of the way or pull over if someone is getting stuck behind me.

I'm not a motorcycle guy.  Best I can do is smaller than a goldwing sized monster but not a crotch rocket.
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: 209 on March 19, 2013, 02:47:30 PM
I quit riding about 8 years back.  There are too many idiots on the road and I spent most of the time all tensed up and decided it wasn't fun anymore.  Sold the bikes and drive a cage now.

Back in the day, we used marbles for tailgaters instead of nuts, ball-bearings or rocks.  Pull one out of your vest pocket and drop it by your leg.  No ones see you do it and the marble breaks nicely.  The car on your butt gets peppered with the fragments and almost always backs off.  Sometimes it did take two or three though...  :laugh:
Title: Re: how to stop being tailgated on a bike
Post by: Tallpine on March 19, 2013, 03:55:50 PM
I quit riding about 8 years back.  There are too many idiots on the road and I spent most of the time all tensed up and decided it wasn't fun anymore.  Sold the bikes and drive a cage now.

Back in the day, we used marbles for tailgaters instead of nuts, ball-bearings or rocks.  Pull one out of your vest pocket and drop it by your leg.  No ones see you do it and the marble breaks nicely.  The car on your butt gets peppered with the fragments and almost always backs off.  Sometimes it did take two or three though...  :laugh:

Well, at least if you get caught you can plead insanity  ;)

You just lost your marbles  :lol: