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Title: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: T.O.M. on April 09, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
The ACLU and the NRA both state that proposed gun control legislation would be unconstitutional!

http://news.yahoo.com/gun-control-laws-face-tough-constitutional-test-161620090.html

What's next?  Dogs and cats living together in harmony?

I truly never ever believed that the ACLU would oppose any gun control.  I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 09, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
This obviously means it will go to SCOTUS and Roberts will find it entirely Constitutional based on the Commerce Clause.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 09, 2013, 03:51:59 PM
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on April 09, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
This obviously means it will go to SCOTUS and Roberts will find it entirely Constitutional based on the Commerce Clause.

I laughed. And then I cried.

If you guys see any pigs in the air, it may be the result of my joining or contributing to the ACLU. Maybe if a few hundred thousand of us did that, it might help them stay on the right side of the issue.

We can always tell them to sod off, if we need to.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: RocketMan on April 09, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on April 09, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
This obviously means it will go to SCOTUS and Roberts will find it entirely Constitutional based on the Commerce Clause.

Unfortunately, I believe you are entirely correct.  I no longer trust Robert's reasoning abilities.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: brimic on April 09, 2013, 09:26:47 PM
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I no longer trust Robert's reasoning abilities.

He's quickly becoming a Breyer clone.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: kgbsquirrel on April 11, 2013, 05:18:58 AM
Quote from: Chris on April 09, 2013, 03:20:34 PM
The ACLU and the NRA both state that proposed gun control legislation would be unconstitutional!

http://news.yahoo.com/gun-control-laws-face-tough-constitutional-test-161620090.html

What's next?  Dogs and cats living together in harmony?

I truly never ever believed that the ACLU would oppose any gun control.  I stand corrected.

Excuse me while I go check my fridge for Gozer.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: Waitone on April 11, 2013, 05:39:14 PM
Why now.  Why now after multiple decades of opportunities does the ACLU to actually defend "liberty" from the conservative side of the spectrum.  My suspicion meter is pegged.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: freakazoid on April 11, 2013, 06:18:17 PM
This doesn't really surprise me. I am surprised that it hasn't happened sooner.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: Balog on April 11, 2013, 06:18:54 PM
Quote from: Waitone on April 11, 2013, 05:39:14 PM
Why now.  Why now after multiple decades of opportunities does the ACLU to actually defend "liberty" from the conservative side of the spectrum.  My suspicion meter is pegged.

This case intersects with other areas they have an interest in?
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: birdman on April 11, 2013, 07:43:17 PM
Quote from: Balog on April 11, 2013, 06:18:54 PM
This case intersects with other areas they have an interest in?

Yup.  This is the first one where registration was implicit, or country wide "approval" was proposed for a fundamental right.  They see it easily transitioning (as we all have been screaming) to other rights (speech, assembly, due process, search/seizure, voting, etc) that the gov sees as "given" to the public, rather than already existing.

Effectively, requiring a purchase (background check fee) to exercise a right finally made someone have the thought process of...wait...isn't this like a poll tax?
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: slingshot on April 13, 2013, 10:27:19 PM
It's a tax.  Taxes are legal just like Obama Care.
Title: Re: Dear God in Heaven, this may be The End!
Post by: kgbsquirrel on April 14, 2013, 05:14:47 AM
Quote from: slingshot on April 13, 2013, 10:27:19 PM
It's a tax.  Taxes are legal just like Obama Care.

Perhaps we should let those twits declare healthcare a "right".... that way obamacare can be struck down as a poll tax.