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Title: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Scout26 on June 23, 2013, 05:21:33 PM
http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2013/06/21/eight_toxic_foods_a_little_chemical_education.php

The money quote:

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I've been sent this link in the last few days, a popular item on BuzzFeed with the BuzzFeedy headline of "Eight Foods That We Eat in The US That Are Banned in Other Countries". When I saw that title, I found it unpromising. In a world that eats everything that can't get away fast enough, what possible foods could we have all to ourselves here in the States? A quick glance was enough: we're not talking about foods here - we're talking about (brace yourselves) chemicals.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Northwoods on June 23, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
My MIL should read this article.  Hell, she got some "un-petrolium" jelly to replace the Vaseline for when the kids got a diaper rash.  Somehow the fact that Vaseline was made from oil made it automatically bad.  We tried it humor her.  It sucks, and is little better than using nothing at all.  If it actually worked, and especially if worked better than the petro-derived stuff I'd use it.  But regular Vaseline works well enough, and is not harmful to begin with, so screw the "un-petrolium" crap.

Oh, and FWIW, I found Desitin or A&D to be superior in any case.  Desitin worked best, IIRC on the girls, and A&D worked best on the boys for some reason.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Azrael256 on June 23, 2013, 06:51:18 PM
We use butt-paste on my Little Monster.  There was a great uproar over it containing boric acid...

I hope nobody's kids ever get pinkeye.  I think boric acid is ingredient #2 after "sterile water" in the drops the doc gives you.  I don't recall what the Mechanism Of Doom is that they postulated, but its use as a pesticide justifies the hysteria somehow.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: lee n. field on June 23, 2013, 07:10:11 PM
Oh, and FWIW, I found Desitin or A&D to be superior in any case.  Desitin worked best, IIRC on the girls, and A&D worked best on the boys for some reason.

A&D won't kill you.

We had a dog once, that ate a whole pound jar of it, left open.  It passed right through her.  Yellow squirts out in the yard.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on June 23, 2013, 07:12:36 PM
There is a problem with the title of this thread. One cannot educate hippies.

However, one could easily exterminate them by finding a poisonous all natural chemical and selling it to them.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Triphammer on June 23, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
Where'd you find one with boric acid. When my daughter was 10 or so months old she got a diaper rash that no normal routine ( changingoften , bathing daily, etc) would cure. Doc gave us a scirpt for some cream ( $7 for an 1/8 oz tube on my then electrician's wage of $3.50 an hour) that didn't work explaining that the only way to stop it was to have her bottom naked 24/7. THAT"LL WORK!

I remembered my mother making a wash when I had pink eye of boiled water & boric acid. A quick trip to the store turned up a 10% boric acid cream that worked RIGHT NOW! Kept using that on her & all the other kids (5) until they grew out of diapers.

Looked for the same cream for the grandkids & it's no longer available.

BTW, Desitin is zinc oxide & cod liver oil, A&D is lanolin & mineral oil.

Personally, I use, recommend give to any who need a cream made of 1 part by volume anhydrous lanolin, 1 part  mineral oil & 1 part boiled water.  Haven't found a skin condition it doesn't work on but I haven't run across anyone that's allergic to lanolin. either. Oh & you can lube your patches with it, too.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Azrael256 on June 23, 2013, 07:18:36 PM
Boudreaux's butt paste.  Note, it had boric acid in it.  They took that out for the hippies.   ;/  Thankfully The Monster's skin is pretty tough.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: lee n. field on June 23, 2013, 07:19:31 PM


BTW, Desitin is zinc oxide & cod liver oil, A&D is lanolin & mineral oil.



I wonder if you could use A&D for a cast bullet lube.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: T.O.M. on June 24, 2013, 09:40:18 AM
To continue this off OP trend, we used Aquaphor on the boys, and continue to do so now for dry skin.  Works great on my feet.  For diaper rash, a pharmacist neighbor recommended a mx of Maalox and Aquaphor...the Maalox counteracted acid in the crap, and the Aquaphor protected the skin.  Worked great.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Jamisjockey on June 24, 2013, 09:55:48 AM
Bag balm. Best baby-ass cream ever.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Tallpine on June 24, 2013, 11:18:20 AM
I saw in a movie where John Wayne used wagon axle grease  =D

I can't remember the name of it right now ... these three outlaws run across a wagon of settlers and everyone died except the baby.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: brimic on June 24, 2013, 11:27:11 AM
Another one is Bisphenol -A.
The hysteria over it involves some junk science pumped up by sensationalist reporting on it.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Gewehr98 on June 24, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
Biking hither and yon in the summertime, I always keep the stuff on hand. 

It's not just for babies!

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_ryTRHMQFT0s%2FSkbgwWKUs4I%2FAAAAAAAAAQ8%2FKSJG83r80pY%2Fs1600%2Fbuttpaste.jpg&hash=bf348beb674738e48cb785dd00490629d1475076)
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: BryanP on June 24, 2013, 12:20:50 PM
I saw in a movie where John Wayne used wagon axle grease  =D

I can't remember the name of it right now ... these three outlaws run across a wagon of settlers and everyone died except the baby.

Sounds like 3 Godfathers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Godfathers)
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Sawdust on June 24, 2013, 12:28:28 PM
Burt's Bees FTW on butt-rash.

Sawdust

Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Triphammer on June 24, 2013, 12:46:36 PM
I saw in a movie where John Wayne used wagon axle grease  =D
Snip

Axle grease of the time would have been tallow & bee's wax so yeah, butt cream.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Tallpine on June 24, 2013, 12:51:14 PM
Sounds like 3 Godfathers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Godfathers)

Yeah that would be it.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: TechMan on June 24, 2013, 01:45:59 PM
Another one is Bisphenol -A.
The hysteria over it involves some junk science pumped up by sensationalist reporting on it.


Cite please.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: MechAg94 on June 24, 2013, 02:49:49 PM
I saw in a movie where John Wayne used wagon axle grease  =D

I can't remember the name of it right now ... these three outlaws run across a wagon of settlers and everyone died except the baby.
I have seen that movie.  John Wayne survives, barely.  The other two don't.  The baby was healthy. 

I can't remember the name and lost patience trying to go through the list of his movies on IMDB.  Any actor today would kill for that movie list.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: MechAg94 on June 24, 2013, 02:50:28 PM
I was thinking I heard of boric acid being an ingredient in a homemade pesticide to get rid of sugar ants. 
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: RocketMan on June 24, 2013, 03:54:57 PM
I was thinking I heard of boric acid being an ingredient in a homemade pesticide to get rid of sugar ants. 

Yup.  Works good, too.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: French G. on June 24, 2013, 04:12:46 PM
Somewhat corollary to the OP is another problem, our side's lack of scientific method when dealing with hippies. Amongst all the veganGMOsustainablebushitler crap are some leftists that really do know healthy food. And we tend to ignore them because they smell and are annoying. Absolutely nothing wrong with knowing where your food comes from and trying to eat a little more like a grassfed hippie.

Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: brimic on June 24, 2013, 05:01:02 PM
Cite please.

http://bit.ly/11WD9mw
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: MechAg94 on June 24, 2013, 07:03:32 PM
Somewhat corollary to the OP is another problem, our side's lack of scientific method when dealing with hippies. Amongst all the veganGMOsustainablebushitler crap are some leftists that really do know healthy food. And we tend to ignore them because they smell and are annoying. Absolutely nothing wrong with knowing where your food comes from and trying to eat a little more like a grassfed hippie.


Less processed food is a good thing, but I don't know if I would go that far.  I think someone here mentioned a rule of thumb that if the box your food comes in is bigger than the finished food, it probably isn't the best food.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 24, 2013, 11:20:45 PM
Depending on the season I grow a significant percentage of my own food. This year though is sucking bad. Between an unseasonable cold and wet start, the timing of the rains and my work schedule made for some serious conflicts towards gettting things in the ground, and the grasshopper invasion, year 3 has me with the most pitiful garden I've had in years.
Danged grasshoppers are even eating the tops of my onions. They are so thick they come off the grass in clouds in the thousands when you walk through them.

I've still got a decent crop of potatoes I need to start digging, my okra will probably make OK and my flint corn is looking fair to good. I have already cut my wheat (hard red winter wheat) and need to start getting it threshed out. I'm hoping for about a 5 gallon bucket out of it. I've slo got pinto beans making, They look better than they did last year and I got 20# out of 1/3 less planting. Blueberries are showing good color and will probably start etting them in another week or so.

Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Tallpine on June 25, 2013, 08:37:18 AM
Do you have drought down there now?

Grasshoppers multiply in dry weather.

It's still rainy here, which is good because it means that we're not on fire yet.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 25, 2013, 08:43:50 AM
We're still below normal for rain fall but quite a bit better than we have been for the previous 2 years.
As soon as my back straightens out I'm filling my 25 gallon spray rig and going on the offensive, if I have anything left to protect.
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Tallpine on June 25, 2013, 08:58:54 AM
We're still below normal for rain fall but quite a bit better than we have been for the previous 2 years.
As soon as my back straightens out I'm filling my 25 gallon spray rig and going on the offensive, if I have anything left to protect.

We had some friends that sprayed the hoppers around the house a few years ago.  Then he had to take the big tractor (he is a rancher/wheat farmer) and plow the dead grasshoppers out of the drive and yard.   :O
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: MechAg94 on June 25, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
Do Hippies eat grasshoppers?
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 28, 2013, 01:08:28 AM
I think it may be possible for hippies to learn - the hard way:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9RJzrAs1E
Title: Re: Science and food - Educating Hippies
Post by: Ben on June 28, 2013, 09:31:17 AM
Sounds like 3 Godfathers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Godfathers)

Great Christmas movie.