Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: T.O.M. on July 17, 2013, 04:23:43 PM
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As I watch the results of the Zimmerman trial, I see one trend among many of those speaking in front of whatever camera is available. Most are saying crap like "respect the jury," but suddenly I'm seeing more and more politicians who are coming out and saying things like "stand your ground needs to be changed." And, like that proverbial lightbulb, here's what I fear happening from what I've seen. These people tried to attack gun ownership and lost. They know a direct attack on self-defense law is a sure failure as well. Instead, they'll attack stand your ground laws by saying"isn't it reasonable to ask someone to try and run before they can shoot down an unarmed attacker? Shouldn't we make someone like Zimmerman run away from the punches, and not just let him gun down an unarmed child?" As we know, ask the questions the right way, and get poll results the way you want them to read. Suddenly, politicians start amending laws, and I see a swing back to requiring an attempt to retreat before deadly force becomes justified. I don't see them being able to argue that a person should be forced to flee his own home before resorting to deadly force. But with the CCW laws in place, I can see a retreat requirement being considered in several states soon.
Thoughts?
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Some of the politicians have effectively said "It's better for a victim to absorb a beating than to shoot & kill their attacker."
I don't think this is going to go over very well on Main Street.
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I don't think this is going to go over very well on Main Street
At least not in fly over country.
But I've seen that attitude even here in what should have been clean SD shoots.
http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/man-involved-stand-your-ground-shooting-has-unique/nLfkp/ (http://www.krmg.com/news/news/local/man-involved-stand-your-ground-shooting-has-unique/nLfkp/)
I could see "duty to retreat" being enacted/added in the liberal enclaves.
IIRC when I was stationed in CT (85-89) there was a duty to retreat even from your own home.
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Our Rulers never did like duty to retreat. Zimmerman provides the excuse to try to change it back which I think is destined to fail.
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In some places maybe.
Floridians (you know the folks who get to vote for FL legislators) tend to like our SYG law. It works well for us.
As has often been said Zimmerman's was NEVER a SYG case. Nowhere in this country do you have a duty to retreat when you are pinned to the ground.
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I can't find the case and I'm not sure of the details but I remember a story abut a woman convicted of shooting (killing?) an intruder after he trapped her and her children in the basement and she didn't "retreat" out the tiny basement windows, Chicago maybe?
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Nope, Illinois actually has a fairly strong SYG law.
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I tend to agree with others. SYG laws had a lot of popular support which is why they were passed in so many state legislatures. Some idiot politician speaking against it in D.C. does not impress me.
It was liberal political BS that eroded common law self defense in the first place. SYG was just an attempt at trying to get it back.