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Title: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on August 16, 2013, 04:27:39 PM
... they CAN sue you!   :police:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=9207650

Paging Claire Wolfe... Claire Wolfe to the awkward phone, please!
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 16, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
you might wanna research it a bit more  that story missed a few details     and there is the pesky detail that the dead guys sister,  the one who called the cops evacuated her kids and didn't tell the cops he was on a multi day bath salts binge?  is in fact suing.   oh yea  and her story? is that brother drank some bad tea that made him irritable.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on August 16, 2013, 04:44:29 PM
you might wanna research it a bit more  that story missed a few details     and there is the pesky detail that the dead guys sister,  the one who called the cops evacuated her kids and didn't tell the cops he was on a multi day bath salts binge?  is in fact suing.   oh yea  and her story? is that brother drank some bad tea that made him irritable.

Doesn't matter.

If it's some sort of conspiracy to entrap/assault, charge her.

It's immoral to have 1-way liability systems.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 16, 2013, 04:56:23 PM
you missed that she was in fact suing?
thats why i suggested a lil more research

your title is a bit off when you have that
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on August 16, 2013, 04:58:29 PM
you missed that she was in fact suing?
thats why i suggested a lil more research

your title is a bit off when you have that

Do you have a cite for your claim, or are you just blowing blue smoke?  Nothing in the article I linked says that the 911 caller is suing the deputy, or that the deputy's suit is a counter-suit to an originating suit.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Fitz on August 16, 2013, 05:07:35 PM
Yeah, so... I'm not seeing anything about her suing him at all.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 16, 2013, 05:15:36 PM
Do you have a cite for your claim, or are you just blowing blue smoke?  Nothing in the article I linked says that the 911 caller is suing the deputy, or that the deputy's suit is a counter-suit to an originating suit.
i need to go look at my facebook i had one of my REALLY  al jones connected friends post this earlier today . and i thought her link had sis in law filing suit since her bil never touched the cops  he was standing with his hands up.  the cop bit himself broke his own nose and gave himself a concussion.


i might have misremembered  i'll check after i feed the brats
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Fitz on August 16, 2013, 05:20:42 PM
So, your evidence is a Facebook post from someone who likes Alex jones, And you think that this post says the chick sued

Gotcha
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 16, 2013, 05:25:46 PM
So, your evidence is a Facebook post from someone who likes Alex jones, And you think that this post says the chick sued

Gotcha

no  she posted a link to a news story  with the usual tearing of garments and zomg
its one that has a video of sis in law saying he was unarmed never touched the cops.  the vid was special  if you find it before me post it
it mighta been from info wars.  i definitely don't go there before dinner
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Fitz on August 16, 2013, 05:55:06 PM
Not sure how that justifies a public safety worker suing a member of the populace
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on August 16, 2013, 05:58:35 PM
So, CSD has 100% derailed this thread with no proof.  Gotcha.

Moving on...
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: gunsmith on August 16, 2013, 06:02:37 PM
CssD, you know I will say so publicly if you are right and I'm wrong, I did not even read the article but it certainly seems like you blew it this time.
 
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on August 16, 2013, 06:03:59 PM
CssD, you know I will say so publicly if you are right and I'm wrong, I did not even read the article but it certainly seems like you blew it this time.
 

Agreed.  You provide proof, and I'll eat crow on this.  But stop the blue-protectionism until you've got proof.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: brimic on August 16, 2013, 06:22:12 PM
So, your evidence is a Facebook post from someone who likes Alex jones, And you think that this post says the chick sued

Gotcha

I don't care what its about, that's teh awesumz post of the day. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: lupinus on August 16, 2013, 07:29:54 PM
So, your evidence is a Facebook post from someone who likes Alex jones, And you think that this post says the chick sued

Gotcha
^win
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 16, 2013, 07:38:34 PM
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The deputy says he was injured when she made that call from her subdivision. In this lawsuit, he claims the homeowner failed to adequately warn 9-1-1 of the dangerous situation he was walking into.


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Title: Re: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: cassandra and sara's daddy on August 16, 2013, 08:32:30 PM
This could be interesting. If you or i walked into that her homeowners would settle. They might this time too. Just to avoid setting a precedent. Or they could fight it to get it established as case law. I'd bet settle to avoid risk and cost.

damn phone
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Tallpine on August 16, 2013, 08:37:02 PM
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The deputy says he was injured when she made that call from her subdivision. In this lawsuit, he claims the homeowner failed to adequately warn 9-1-1 of the dangerous situation he was walking into.

After dealing with a panic stricken county sheriff on a fire last year, I am getting more and more not impressed.  ;/
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Levant on August 16, 2013, 11:31:41 PM
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"The deputy should know, if it's a 9-1-1 call, the deputy has to know it is a dangerous situation," KTRK legal analyst Joel Androphy said.

Androphy calls Deputy Pullen's lawsuit frivolous.

"It sends a bad message out there. And if this lawsuit succeeds, it basically shuts down 9-1-1 calls to some degree, because people will be afraid if they make the call they are going to get sued. And the sheriff should not condone this type of action," Androphy said.

The deputy should assume all 911 calls are dangerous.  And suing will end 911 calls.  The police are no longer an option for protection.  Of course they never were anyway.  Leave them safely in their precincts, on revenue/traffic duty, and taking reports when you defend yourself.  The police are who you call to do the paperwork after the emergency is over.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Tallpine on August 17, 2013, 10:22:16 AM
The deputy should assume all 911 calls are dangerous.  And suing will end 911 calls.  The police are no longer an option for protection.  Of course they never were anyway.  Leave them safely in their precincts, on revenue/traffic duty, and taking reports when you defend yourself.  The police are who you call to do the paperwork after the emergency is over.

Or maybe not ...  ;)
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: tokugawa on August 17, 2013, 11:25:21 AM
The hell with getting sued.  How about getting shot?
 Too many cases of someone calling the cops for help and having their loved ones end up dead.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: HankB on August 17, 2013, 06:49:17 PM
In this Brave New World when cops sue the people who call them for help, maybe it will become SOP for homeowners to learn how to use a gun & bone saw, and to keep plenty of plastic bags on hand.
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: BobR on August 17, 2013, 07:23:01 PM
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maybe it will become SOP for homeowners to learn how to use a gun & bone saw, and to keep plenty of plastic bags on hand.

You may not even need the saw if you can learn how to disarticulate the body at the joints. Just a nice knife.  =|   ;)


bob
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: MechAg94 on August 19, 2013, 06:39:16 AM
Judging by Lawdog's writing and others, cops get into all sorts of weird and bad situations in their careers.  Allowing them to sue sets up a very bad precedent.  Also, cops generally are provided protection by their city and their union and have a general presumption of respect by the public.  What is left of that if they start suing?

What are the cop's actual damages anyway?  His health care is covered.  He can't say his job is peaceful with no chance of violence. 
Title: Re: Not only can you NOT sue them...
Post by: Jamisjockey on August 19, 2013, 08:59:35 AM
And that's the end of this one.   Advocating illegal activity is not allowed at APS.   Idgits.  :facepalm: