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Title: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: T.O.M. on September 23, 2013, 03:03:49 PM
Apparently, this guy does...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/21/american-gun-out-control-porter

Can't follow his logic, but then again, he doesn't apparently view Americans as logical humans, so maybe I can't get it.
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: Boomhauer on September 23, 2013, 03:13:50 PM
Send 'em in. Do it Do it Do it!!!
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on September 23, 2013, 03:21:26 PM
Rly?  Wanna watch 'Muricans get united behind something, we'll go from 80 million gun owners to 200 million gun owners in less than a year.  With lots of blue hats on the ground.
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: Jamisjockey on September 23, 2013, 03:30:25 PM
Meh.  What's the UN good at? They can't even hand out food in shitholistan without warlords jacking the shipments.  They're a wholly ineffective organization without OUR boots.
Some random columnist in a liberal handwringing euro rag does not a UN invasion make.

I'll save my outrage for something more deserving.
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: SADShooter on September 23, 2013, 03:33:10 PM
Dear Mr. Porter:

I'd be much more afraid (and disgusted) to live in a place where a man gets hacked to death with a machete, and people stand by taking pictures until the clean up crew arrives to sweep the street. I carry a gun not because I am afraid, but so that I don't have to be, a distinction you will never comprehend. Until you do, stop advocating to have some poor sod other than yourself come take my guns, you effete hypocrite.

Sincerely, FOAD,

Me
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: Balog on September 23, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
Meh.  What's the UN good at? They can't even hand out food in shitholistan without warlords jacking the shipments.  They're a wholly ineffective organization without OUR boots.
Some random columnist in a liberal handwringing euro rag does not a UN invasion make.

I'll save my outrage for something more deserving.

Ayup. Some 'tard in a newspaper being stupid, hardly worth notice.
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: charby on September 23, 2013, 03:51:27 PM
Ayup. Some 'tard in a newspaper being stupid, hardly worth notice.

Made you guys notice.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: Balog on September 23, 2013, 03:53:32 PM
But I didn't click the link so no traffic from me. ;)

I think this is actually becoming more of a thing these days, the intentionally outrageous piece designed solely as link bait via outrage trolling.
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: RevDisk on September 23, 2013, 04:06:03 PM
*shrug*

They'd have no legal standing. And good luck on any President signing off on granting federal law enforcement rights to foreign nationals.

If that magically happened, I'd sit back and have a beer. I'd say 50/50 shot of the US military pulling an unofficial mutiny. Basically, the more lethal version of what Iraqi and Afghani forces have done to US troops.
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: dm1333 on September 23, 2013, 04:34:05 PM
Wolverines!

In 2010 19,000 people used a gun to commit suicide and 11,000 or so committed homicides.  Maybe the UN ought to send traffic cops instead, there were 32,000 traffic fatalities that year and who knows how many people maimed?

Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: AJ Dual on September 23, 2013, 04:44:19 PM
This is the UK version of the "Dying newspaper printing a CCW database"-gambit to try and drive traffic/attention.

More than ever I'm thinking the way to counter this is to ignore them in the macro or public space, and make their attitudes and beliefs as costly as possible in the local personal sphere.

Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: T.O.M. on September 23, 2013, 06:33:29 PM
The more I thought about this plan, the more I chuckled.  UN SOP is to negotiate, then seek embargos.  What are they going to do? Stop shiping in and out ofthe US?  Think China is going to sign on to that one, and stop shipping products into the US?  Maybe they would stop exports, you know, food, medicine, etc.  Frnkly, that may be a huge plus for the US economy, as we start manufacturing everything, and buying American becomes the only option.  Oil and energy independence would occur out of necessity.  The Japanese woke a sleeping giant in WWII.  This would be worse...for the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 23, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
That would be a great adventure.
 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Does the US need international intervention due to the massive gun violence?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on September 23, 2013, 10:52:21 PM
The more I thought about this plan, the more I chuckled.  UN SOP is to negotiate, then seek embargos.  What are they going to do? Stop shiping in and out ofthe US?  Think China is going to sign on to that one, and stop shipping products into the US?  Maybe they would stop exports, you know, food, medicine, etc.  Frnkly, that may be a huge plus for the US economy, as we start manufacturing everything, and buying American becomes the only option.  Oil and energy independence would occur out of necessity.  The Japanese woke a sleeping giant in WWII.  This would be worse...for the rest of the world.

They'll let us import oil, and plastic dog turds.

They won't allow us to import unenriched uranium for our power plants or nuclear programs, or rare earth elements for fancy electronics stuff.

ETA:  Of course, good luck putting an embargo on the Navy that has a dozen aircraft carriers and a bajillion subs.