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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Sergeant Bob on October 02, 2013, 10:58:44 AM
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Just saw it on the Fox News. I really enjoyed some of his books.
Tom Clancy Dead (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tom-clancy-dead-celebrated-thriller-141800682.html;_ylt=A2KJ3CQVLExSLHAAslHQtDMD)
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Loved "The Hunt for Red October". RIP Mr Clancy. You will be missed.
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RIP.
Man, 66 - that's practically middle-aged. Anytime I read of someone dying earlier than 70 nowadays, it makes me think, "Crap, I might not have that much time left myself."
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Geez, that is awfully damn young. Just checked the media outlets and no word yet on the actual cause of death.
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Who got him? Russians? CIA? Iranians?
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:'( R.I.P. Mr. Clancy.
It seems a lot of writers are packing it in lately.
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RIP :'(
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Geez, that is awfully damn young. Just checked the media outlets and no word yet on the actual cause of death.
Damn. =(
RIP.
Brad
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I thought he was older by at least a decade.
Damn
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Dang.
Haven't read any of his books in at least a decade, but the ones I read were good.
RIP
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Dang.
Haven't read any of his books in at least a decade, but the ones I read were good.
RIP
His newer ones lost me...very meh.
Personally I prefer Red Storm Rising* (my favorite), Hunt For Red October, No Remorse, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and Rainbow Six. I do own most of his books except for Red Rabbit and the ones after that.
*Anybody know of any similar books covering the Cold war going hot that are written well? That was an engrossing book for sure.
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I think the last book of his that I red was Red Rabbit or The Bear and teh Dragon.
I think a lot of his later stuff might have been written by other authors.
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I think the last book of his that I red was Red Rabbit or The Bear and teh Dragon.
I think a lot of his later stuff might have been written by other authors.
Thats what the suspicion is.
And then there were the tons of video game based novels that were openly written by somebody else
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His newer ones lost me...very meh.
Personally I prefer Red Storm Rising* (my favorite), Hunt For Red October, No Remorse, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and Rainbow Six. I do own most of his books except for Red Rabbit and the ones after that.
*Anybody know of any similar books covering the Cold war going hot that are written well? That was an engrossing book for sure.
An oldie, and had a movie made from it; "Seven Days in May." It was the kind of book Tom Clancy wished he could have authored. Might be possible to get through Amazon.
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So sad, I too enjoyed his books.
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Wow. =(
Red Storm Rising had a big impact on me when I first read it.
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An oldie, and had a movie made from it; "Seven Days in May." It was the kind of book Tom Clancy wished he could have authored. Might be possible to get through Amazon.
Ordered. New was $90+ but I got a gently used copy on the way from a place out in Kali. I love Amazon, makes finding used books easy, used it a lot and saved a bunch of money on my textbooks back in college.
Red Storm Rising had a big impact on me when I first read it.
Possibly my favorite book of his (and Larry Bonds). Very well written, very engaging, I can read it over and over and not get bored. Few books are that good for me.
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Wow. =(
Red Storm Rising had a big impact on me when I first read it.
Bestest book ever.
SWMBO snagged a couple of paperbacks that said Clancy, but he subbed out to other writers.
I even think that Eric Von Lustbader was one of them.
Clancy rocked!
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"Without Remorse" was by far my favorite.
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Tom Clancy, R.I.P. Had quite a few good reads thanks to you.
His newer ones lost me...very meh.
Personally I prefer Red Storm Rising* (my favorite), Hunt For Red October, No Remorse, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and Rainbow Six. I do own most of his books except for Red Rabbit and the ones after that.
*Anybody know of any similar books covering the Cold war going hot that are written well? That was an engrossing book for sure.
I'll also add to your list The Bear and the Dragon as a Clancy book that was a good read, as was Debt of Honor.
Similar books covering the Cold war going hot? Larry Bond wrote a number of good novels, but often overlooked is Harold Coyle's Team Yankee, about the experience of a US armored company dealing with an invasion of West Germany.
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Read quite a bit of his stuff in the late '80s early '90s.
Watched Hunt For Red October for the 1st time while underway on a submarine. Now thats a tough audience for a submarine movie.
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Read quite a bit of his stuff in the late '80s early '90s.
Watched Hunt For Red October for the 1st time while underway on a submarine. Now thats a tough audience for a submarine movie.
How accurate are his books? I've seen both opinions, from "lol, he doesn't know anything, but uses cool language to make it appear that he knows his stuff", to "WHY IS THIS SENSITIVE INFORMATION IN A NEW TOM CLANCY NOVEL?".
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How accurate are his books?
I can only speak to the submarine related content.
"Close, but no cigar" comes to mind. I can tell he talked to some folks in the know but to me it is obvious he hadn't actually "been there, done that".
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Good author. The key was that he obviously did a lot of research in preparing his stories. Granted, not all of his writing was perfectly accurate. But, so much of it was that you, as a reader, gave him a break when something wasn't right. I remember reading in Clear and Present Danger when he said that 2" revolvers were no good past 10 feet. I laughed because the closest I ever shoot for practice with my J frames is 21 feet, and more likely 30 feet.
That said, Clear and Present Danger and Without remorse were my two favorites. I re-read Without remorse last summer. Still great.
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I always felt that the movies detoured too far from the books. Let us not speak of the Clear and Present Danger movie which was an abomination.
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Bestest book ever.
SWMBO snagged a couple of paperbacks that said Clancy, but he subbed out to other writers.
I even think that Eric Von Lustbader was one of them.
Clancy rocked!
I really liked his earlier books (which as you point out, were not subbed out) but didn't finish the first one he "co-authored".
As others have said, he will be missed. =(
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Ordered ("Seven Days in May"). New was $90+ but I got a gently used copy on the way from a place out in Kali. I love Amazon, makes finding used books easy, used it a lot and saved a bunch of money on my textbooks back in college.
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I own an original edition that belonged to my father from 1962. It was a hardcover like Clancy's books. The list price on the cover in 1962 was $5.00.
$90.00....worth it I suppose if you're a collector. ;)
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I always felt that the movies detoured too far from the books. Let us not speak of the Clear and Present Danger movie which was an abomination.
I never watched the movies...seldom does a movie match a book well...
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I never watched the movies...seldom does a movie match a book well...
All too true, and something far too many Hollywood types fail to recognize.
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I always felt that the movies detoured too far from the books. Let us not speak of the Clear and Present Danger movie which was an abomination.
Since you bring up one abomination, I'll raise you one Clancy novel movie adaptation which was even more abominable: The Sum of All Fears.
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That sucks. I had really enjoyed Rainbow Six and Red Storm Rising.
I liked the movies. [popcorn]
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Since you bring up one abomination, I'll raise you one Clancy novel movie adaptation which was even more abominable: The Sum of All Fears.
Okay, that was the one I meant. That was the real abomination. Clear and Present Danger basically shared a movie title and a general subject of drugs... beyond that different story.
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As a young Lieutenant in Germany in 1987 reading Red Storm Rising really drove some things home. I've enjoyed his books, although the last one I read was The Dragon and the Bear. At which point I felt he was out of ideas and that he made things more technical as well as logistically and tactically impossible to cover for that shortfall.
Hunt for Red October and Patriot Games were good movies. The only ones that even remotely followed the plot of the books.
If you are going to read Harold Coyle's Team Yankee which is an excellent book and get the technical stuff pretty right (he did change some things simply because the M1 Abrams was very new, and some items on board and capabilities were classified at the time. But he does mostly get the fire commands correct.
He was an Armor Major with the 1st Armored Division in Ansbach when he wrote Team Yankee.
Do read General Sir John Hackett's The Third World War first. Coyle used his novel with it's broad overview to write a novel, using that scenario, about a small unit, the Company Team that's part of a Battalion Task Force, fighting WWIII.
Again these came out in 1986-1987. We were all walking around with a pretty high pucker factor after reading those books.
The Brotherhood of War series by WEB Griffin is fun read. Not sure how accurate the technical stuff is and most of the military stuff (battles, names, places, events) are mostly made up, some real events are altered, like the Song Tay raid (but not the part about some Captain, putting all the parts together and then going in and asking his boss when the raid was planned.) Apparently he's played fast and loose with how close and/or good his military connects are.