Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on October 24, 2013, 09:22:00 AM
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It sounds like this is ongoing from last year, but I've not heard about it before. They don't go into detail about why the cops were after him, other than an ex-wife complaint. Disturbing to think there are places where you can be arrested for ammo, or even empty brass. The warrant language, if accurate, is disturbing as well. “firearms and ammunition … gun cleaning equipment, holsters, bullet holders and ammunition receipts.” Then of course there's the 30 cops it took to serve the warrant.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/23/miller-dc-businessman-faces-two-years-jail-unregis/
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I can't imagine how much money someone would have to offer me to live in that area.
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I can't imagine how much money someone would have to offer me to live in that area.
I'd do it for $80M a year. Then quit after after a couple of months.
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I'd do it for $80M a year. Then quit after after a couple of months.
Better ways out there to make $80 million. ;)
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Disturbing to think there are places where you can be arrested for ammo, or even empty brass.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/23/miller-dc-businessman-faces-two-years-jail-unregis/
Mexico. If a lot of the D.C. politicians had their way, we'd all be living "South of the border".
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Better ways out there to make $80 million. ;)
Well, for that much money, you can leave all your good stuff in a bunker in Texas.
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Did you notice that the DC cops have jurisdiction in Virginia now? :O
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Also of interest is that the soon to be ex-wife is apparently making these reports to the police as a tactic.
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Did you notice that the DC cops have jurisdiction in Virginia now? :O
Thanks for pointing this troubling little tidbit out. That's some creepy *expletive deleted*it, right there.
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Did you notice that the DC cops have jurisdiction in Virginia now? :O
How did you arrive at that?
Two weeks after the June raid, D.C. police investigators went to his sister’s house — unaccompanied by Virginia police and without a warrant — and asked to “view” the firearms, according to a police report. She refused. The next day, the D.C. police returned to her house with the Arlington County police and served her with a criminal subpoena.
The Office of Attorney General of the District of Columbia Irvin Nathan signed an affidavit on Aug. 21, 2012, in support of a warrant to arrest Mr. Witaschek. A spokesman for Mr. Nathan would not comment on a pending case.
Seems to me that his sister told them to go pound sand without the proper paperwork, and that they went home to get it.
A pedantically technical matter - the DC cops should have presented the supoena to the Virginia Attorney General who should have forwarded it to the Arlington County Commonwealth Attorney who should have presented it to the Arlington County PD who should have served and executed it.
I've got a box of hardly used ballots from 2012 (still perfectly good for use in 2014) that says his defense attorney will not bring this up.
stay safe.
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skid, why the hell is DC enforcing DC laws in VA?
Can't a person own a box of bullets in his Georgetown home without DC cops going all apescat over it?
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Meanwhile, David Gregory is free as a bird . . .
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skid, why the hell is DC enforcing DC laws in VA?
Can't a person own a box of bullets in his Georgetown home without DC cops going all apescat over it?
Georgetown is in DC.
Chris
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Ah, gotcha. I thought "Washington" was the only municipality in DC. Does "Georgetown" have a mayor or city council or actual city status, or is it just a geographic region, sort of like Queen Ann Hill in Seattle?
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I think it's more like a neighborhood or region.
Chris
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Meanwhile, David Gregory is free as a bird . . .
Some animals are more equal than others.
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Ah, gotcha. I thought "Washington" was the only municipality in DC. Does "Georgetown" have a mayor or city council or actual city status, or is it just a geographic region, sort of like Queen Ann Hill in Seattle?
Yes, it is a neighborhood just north of the Potomac River where the airplanes make their turn to DC National (it is not and never will be Ronald Reagan International no matter how often they say it). Infamous as the home of movers and shakers of both parties. Used to have a quaint (not quite squee) shopping district along M Street NW and Connecticut Ave NW - have not been there in decades so do not know what it's like now but I'd bet blindly that Nathan's is still a gay bar and the best place in the federal enclave to get a pastrami sammich.
skid, why the hell is DC enforcing DC laws in VA?
Can't a person own a box of bullets in his Georgetown home without DC cops going all apescat over it?
Well, no, since Georgetown is part of DC - see above. Reader confusion based on not knowing or giving a rip about the neighborhoods of DC, as well as the reoprtologists not even bothering to try to explain things to folks who might be outside the beltway. (which see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_495_(Capital_Beltway) )
Best chance I'll probably ever have to use the line, so here goes: You're not from around here, are you?
stay safe.
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Georgetown also, at least used to, have a Scottish restaurant that made the best Haggis ever. (Hey, the way you guys are veering my other threads, I figured I'd beat you to the punch on this one).
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Better ways out there to make $80 million. ;)
I could handle for a few months at $80M annual. =D
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Then why in the blue hells is DC police coordinating search warrants with anyone from VA, as mentioned in the story?
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Then why in the blue hells is DC police coordinating search warrants with anyone from VA, as mentioned in the story?
Great question. Wonder what lies exwife told. Shes a real winner to lose custody then send cops to raid house where her kids live.
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Shes a real winner to lose custody then send cops to raid house where her kids live.
And therein lies the answer.
Momma's that can't play the "Single Mother Victim" card are vindictive c*nts. Ask me how I know.*
* Here I'll tell you: For example. When her "Oh Woe is Me" Divorced/Single Mommies Pity Party group at her church found out that she only had our son 5 out of every 14 days, they kinda told her that she can't play any more reindeer games. (Seems she was the only mommy that wasn't availing herself of their free daycare for the meetings.) :rofl: :rofl:
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Great question. Wonder what lies exwife told. Shes a real winner to lose custody then send cops to raid house where her kids live.
That was my observation as well. Look at what she subjected her children to, just for petty revenge.
(Of course, I don't absolve the police for their abusive actions, as well, but fish gotta swim, D.C. cops gotta jackboot.)
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No point in owning guns anymore unless you plan to use them. The DC government is a criminal enterprise.
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Then why in the blue hells is DC police coordinating search warrants with anyone from VA, as mentioned in the story?
To prove the guy owns GUNZ!!ELEVENTY!!ONE!!! so they can bring it up in the case they already have against him for a spent casing that was not registered. Shows the judge/jury that he's an evillllll person who flauts the l;aw by doing stuff that is illergal in DC in a jurisdiction where it is actually legal. How dare he!
Without wanting to cause the guy any more tsuris via negative waves and such, but I'm wondering how he got his guns if he lives in DC. (The one remaining FFL in DC is Josh Sugarman of the Gun Violence Policy Center *hack, spit, [barf] [ar15]*)
stay safe.
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That the home of our federal government has made itself the enemy of the people only highlights that the federal government housed there considers the people enemies of the government. A government that felt bound in any way by the Constitution would require that its seat of power abide by that Constitution.
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Hopefully the kids remember who put Daddy in prison and never speak to the egg donor again.
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To prove the guy owns GUNZ!!ELEVENTY!!ONE!!! so they can bring it up in the case they already have against him for a spent casing that was not registered. Shows the judge/jury that he's an evillllll person who flauts the l;aw by doing stuff that is illergal in DC in a jurisdiction where it is actually legal. How dare he!
Without wanting to cause the guy any more tsuris via negative waves and such, but I'm wondering how he got his guns if he lives in DC. (The one remaining FFL in DC is Josh Sugarman of the Gun Violence Policy Center *hack, spit, [barf] [ar15]*)
stay safe.
My guess is he lived in Virginia before moving to DC and the guns pre-date the move.
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IIRC, just because you live in a jurisdiction that bans certain types of (or all) firearms, does not prohibit you from owning them, as long as they are stored (as they are in this case) outside said jurisdiction. And, IIRC, it is legal to purchase long guns outside your state of residence.
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IIRC, just because you live in a jurisdiction that bans certain types of (or all) firearms, does not prohibit you from owning them, as long as they are stored (as they are in this case) outside said jurisdiction. And, IIRC, it is legal to purchase long guns outside your state of residence.
I believe he owned a handgun, though. Cannot get that outside of your state of residence. (Except Military stationed in a different state, I believe.)
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I believe he owned a handgun, though. Cannot get that outside of your state of residence. (Except Military stationed in a different state, I believe.)
I can own all sorts of stuff that is illegal in California prior to moving to California, then move to California, and leave the naughty items in a storage unit in AZ.
And despite then being a CA resident, I still own all the naughty items.
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I can own all sorts of stuff that is illegal in California prior to moving to California, then move to California, and leave the naughty items in a storage unit in AZ.
And despite then being a CA resident, I still own all the naughty items.
My guess is he lived in Virginia before moving to DC and the guns pre-date the move.
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Many states have preemption laws. The Constitution, in this case, preempts the states. Different from the First Amendment that says Congress shall pass no law, the Second doesn't limit itself to just actions of Congress.
Well, now if only government could understand something so simple as the Constitution.
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I wonder if this could be the next Heller case, the right to keep and bear ammo.