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Title: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: vaskidmark on November 07, 2013, 07:17:24 AM: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/06/armor-development-group-insulon-m4-thermal-shroud/

Extends the time it takes to melt the gas tube during sustained fire, which was a cause of catastrophic failure.

Now if only we had a war to test it out.

stay safe.
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: AJ Dual on November 07, 2013, 07:31:36 AM: Too bad it's just thermal images, and AR's/M4's didn't have a last-ditch "lightsaber option" for CQB/Melee fighting, where the handguards fell away, and you could swing the ultra-hot barrel, making a "Voom" noise that went "Fisssssssss" when you cut some charging hadji in half.
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: Gewehr98 on November 07, 2013, 09:13:42 AM: Well, there's always the time honored practice involving a red-hot poker... :O
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: MechAg94 on November 07, 2013, 10:42:14 AM: How many rounds of sustained fire does it take to cause a normal gas tube to fail?

I have dumped 8 to 10 mags of 5.45 through my 5.45 AR with the bump fire stock. It was hot, but it still worked.
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on November 07, 2013, 12:00:24 PM: If you're toasting gas tubes in a firefight the solution is not a better gas tube, but a water-cooled Vickers and a lake.
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: TommyGunn on November 07, 2013, 12:02:57 PM: Quote from: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on November 07, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
If you're toasting gas tubes in a firefight the solution is not a better gas tube, but a water-cooled Vickers and a lake.
:rofl: OK not VERY funny, but I got a good chuckle out of that! :lol:
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: brimic on November 07, 2013, 04:37:28 PM: Gas piston, FTW.
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: tokugawa on November 07, 2013, 05:56:39 PM: Quote from: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on November 07, 2013, 12:00:24 PM
If you're toasting gas tubes in a firefight the solution is not a better gas tube, but a water-cooled Vickers and a lake.

At Verdun one British machine gun section fired over one million rounds in , IIRC, one day. The guns were so hot they were urinating in the water cans as they had no water left.
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: Scout26 on November 08, 2013, 01:35:47 AM: Yep, if you're toasting gas tubes in a firefight, you are clearly not using enough Artillery and Close Air Support.

Never toasted any M16 gas tubes, but we did ruin an M60 barrel by linking far, far too many 100 round belts of 4/1 ball/tracer mix together. To the point where it became highly noticeable that point of the impact had significantly dropped from earlier even though the gun was mounted on a tripod with the T&E mechanism locked down.
Title: Re: New, insulated gas tube for M-4
Post by: HankB on November 08, 2013, 01:58:52 PM: Quote from: scout26 on November 08, 2013, 01:35:47 AM
Yep, if you're toasting gas tubes in a firefight, you are clearly not using enough Artillery and Close Air Support.
Don't today's ROE's preclude a lot of that due to the risk of "collateral and infrastructure damage?"