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Title: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: MillCreek on November 11, 2013, 02:42:45 PM
http://www.npr.org/2013/11/11/244527860/forget-the-50-states-u-s-is-really-11-nations-says-author?ft=1&f=1001

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/08/which-of-the-11-american-nations-do-you-live-in/

I see that I am in the Far Left Coast.  Groovy.

And how this ties in with firearms issues: http://www.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/features/up-in-arms.html
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: charby on November 11, 2013, 02:49:07 PM
Well they got the Midwest right anyways.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: mtnbkr on November 11, 2013, 02:52:19 PM
Tidewater by location, but Greater Appalachia in heart.

I was born in Tidewater and spent a major portion of my life here.  I've lived in Greater Appalachia and want to move back there.

Chris
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on November 11, 2013, 02:54:10 PM
Long live The Far West!
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: TechMan on November 11, 2013, 02:55:18 PM
Grew up in Yankeedom, but now living in Greater Appalachia and have no plans of moving.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: makattak on November 11, 2013, 03:15:45 PM
Apparently I moved to "Yankeedom" for undergrad and was in "Tidewater" for grad school, but I've moved back to Greater Appalachia. I can pick out my county in Illinois (Mason County has a very distinct shape) there and, just as now, I was near to the edge of Appalachia. I can easily see my hometown and here as very similar culturally.

I think my favorite beach spots have been split between Tidewater and the Deep South, now, when they were part of one state "before".
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: makattak on November 11, 2013, 03:19:35 PM
Actually, this makes a great deal of sense. BOTH sides of my family can trace their roots to Virginia and both ended up in the middle of Illinois. (Also related to this, one side spent some time in Texas and moved up through Missouri to get to Illinois... still tracing out "Greater Appalachia" as laid out in this piece.

So, I like it because it tells a "just so" story about my family history. Don't have much to say on the ACTUAL argument of the piece, though.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: brimic on November 11, 2013, 03:25:52 PM
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Well they got the Midwest right anyways.
The Northern Europe of the United States?
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: Gowen on November 11, 2013, 03:42:14 PM
Long live The Far West!

+1
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: MillCreek on November 11, 2013, 03:44:39 PM
My family landed in Virginia in the mid-1700's, moved West over the next few generations to Arkansas, Tennessee, Missouri and Texas and pretty much stayed there until after WW Two.  From there, major offshoots to Washington and California.  I am one of the few remaining Seattle-area natives, and my kids are the fourth generation of my family to be in Seattle, although the second generation born here.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: MechAg94 on November 11, 2013, 04:40:07 PM
I am trying to figure out why Central Texas is wrapped into Great Appalachia.  It almost seems like they had no where else to go with it.

I have at least heard that West Texas culture and even the accent is a bit different from that of East Texas and the Gulf Coast. 
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: charby on November 11, 2013, 04:48:38 PM
The Northern Europe of the United States?

Stretching from Quaker territory west through Iowa and into more populated areas of the Midwest, the Midlands are “pluralistic and organized around the middle class.” Government intrusion is unwelcome, and ethnic and ideological purity isn’t a priority.

Doesn't sound like Northern Europe.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: HankB on November 11, 2013, 05:39:36 PM
Real map is more like this . . .

(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cardcow.com%2Fimages%2Fset300%2Fcard00798_fr.jpg&hash=2b9b7876fbc6d8bdae65a3d398e074cb29a71543)
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: AJ Dual on November 11, 2013, 05:52:39 PM
Assuming for the sake of argument that the U.S. did Balkanize, or did suffer Civil War II, it'll be a friggin' mess. County by county, with very unclear lines of engagement, if any.

Some state like Texas probably would be able to put effective strangleholds on the liberal enclaves in the large cities, and others like the Northeast will be suitably leftist, and moderate RINO that trouble doesn't get brewing.

Places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and Illinois... total ****-storm.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: Lee on November 11, 2013, 05:57:45 PM
Greater Appalachian works for me.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 11, 2013, 06:07:18 PM
 ;/  I've mostly lived on the border between Greater Appalachia and the Midlands, but the stupid maps are too small to tell me on which side.

I guess either way I'm somewhere in between.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: Scout26 on November 11, 2013, 06:16:44 PM
Yankeedom, but I can see (large) parts of it rebelling and joining the Midlands.

Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: dm1333 on November 11, 2013, 09:05:11 PM
Born in Yankeedom.

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"Greater Appalachia," extending from West Virginia in a wide band to the northern half of Texas, was settled by people from Northern Ireland, England and Scotland. Those people were openly antagonistic to the so-called "ruling oligarchies" and upper classes, so they opposed the slave plantation economy, but they also distrust government.

Pining for Greater Appalachia!
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: vaskidmark on November 12, 2013, 08:06:03 AM
Tidewater by location, but Greater Appalachia in heart.

I was born in Tidewater and spent a major portion of my life here.  I've lived in Greater Appalachia and want to move back there.

Chris

Same here.  We need a new survey of the line, even if it does mean loss of a heriditary right to oysters.

stay safe.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: Sergeant Bob on November 12, 2013, 09:30:11 AM
Why don't they show the LEast coast? =D
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: brimic on November 12, 2013, 11:27:24 AM
Stretching from Quaker territory west through Iowa and into more populated areas of the Midwest, the Midlands are “pluralistic and organized around the middle class.” Government intrusion is unwelcome, and ethnic and ideological purity isn’t a priority.

Doesn't sound like Northern Europe.

Ah, I thought you meant MI,WI,MN.

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Assuming for the sake of argument that the U.S. did Balkanize, or did suffer Civil War II, it'll be a friggin' mess. County by county, with very unclear lines of engagement, if any.

Some state like Texas probably would be able to put effective strangleholds on the liberal enclaves in the large cities, and others like the Northeast will be suitably leftist, and moderate RINO that trouble doesn't get brewing.

Places like Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and Illinois... total ****-storm.
Yep. Locally the lines would be fairly clear- Waukesha, Washington, Northern Ozaukee, and Southern Milwaukee counties have the worst of the libtards and quest card zombies boxed in- all that would be needed is a concerted push into the lake.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: charby on November 12, 2013, 11:42:08 AM
Ah, I thought you meant MI,WI,MN.

Yep, Northern Europe with a lot kraut, pollack and frogs tossed in the mix. Definitely not Yankeeland.

Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: Mannlicher on November 12, 2013, 06:16:41 PM
typical garbage from the progressive/socialists at NPR
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on November 12, 2013, 09:53:48 PM
I'm either in Tidewater of Greater Appalicia. I didn't look close enough to tell.

I thought the artical just sounded like some pretentious libreal patting himself on the head for thinking he's so perfect.
Title: Re: The 11 nations of North America
Post by: Tallpine on November 13, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
I can't figure out how the panhandle of of Oklahoma and the top tier of Texas panhandles counties could be "Midlands"  ???

My dad's family lives in that band and I can't see how the culture is dramatically different for the farm/ranch/oilfield culture that spreads from eastern Colorado plains down into OK and TX.

Cultures generally merge gradually, except for the urban/rural divide.  The difference between Denver and just 60+ miles east is so dramatic that it might as well be different continents.