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Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 03, 2006, 11:57:13 AM
Wiki has no entry on Oleg Volk!  Quick, somebody submit something!
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Guest on September 03, 2006, 02:08:58 PM
fancruft.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Nathaniel Firethorn on September 05, 2006, 12:28:59 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fancruft

Disclaimer: I'm just defining the term. I hold no opinion about whether it fits.

- NF
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: The Rabbi on September 05, 2006, 01:07:32 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Volk

OK, fixed.

I think it is more than just "fancruft."  Oleg has made serious contributions in both artistic work and in advocacy work.  Yeah, I doubt he'll get the Nobel Prize for it but what the hey.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 05, 2006, 05:24:03 PM
Whether it makes me a bad guy or not, I have to agree with the fancruft description.

Oleg's a wonderful guy, and has done untold wonders for the gunowning community and 2nd Amendment issues.

Putting him on the Wikipedia pedestal as an icon for all is a bit much, IMHO.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: The Rabbi on September 06, 2006, 02:27:41 AM
Quote from: Gewehr98
Whether it makes me a bad guy or not, I have to agree with the fancruftdescription.

Oleg's a wonderful guy, and has done untold wonders for the gunowning community and 2nd Amendment issues.

Putting him on the Wikipedia pedestal as an icon for all is a bit much, IMHO.
Gewehr, shh!  You might make him mad and then there will be famine....
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: seeker_two on September 06, 2006, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: The Rabbi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleg_Volk

OK, fixed.

I think it is more than just "fancruft."  Oleg has made serious contributions in both artistic work and in advocacy work.  Yeah, I doubt he'll get the Nobel Prize for it but what the hey.
What? No links to his photography sites or his RKBA site?

No fancruft for you!!! angry




(...reading definition for fancruft for first time.....)

Oh, sorry.  I thought fancruft was a tasty pastry.... Cheesy
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: gunsmith on September 06, 2006, 10:17:48 AM
really! wiki is missing a link to a human right .com

warning! do not diss Oleg or the super adventure gun club will be looking for you
;-)
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 08, 2006, 02:05:48 PM
If there's an article about each and every single Pokemon, there damn should be one about Oleg.

Added categories and mention of the use of his posters and art internationally.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Nathaniel Firethorn on September 08, 2006, 04:15:23 PM
The article's not showing up anymore.

- NF
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 08, 2006, 04:28:21 PM
Strange. It was there this morning, and there was no mention of possible deletion on the discussion page for the article.

WTFSH?
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Guest on September 08, 2006, 08:38:15 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Oleg_Volk
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Guest on September 08, 2006, 08:54:02 PM
I would create the article again. Some retard deleted it despite the fact that it had some 10 edits on it from different IP adresses.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 08, 2006, 11:06:34 PM
And this is what I call Wiki vandalism.

Let me restate again. If there is an article about:

1. Each and every individual pokemon.

2. Each and every Warhammer 40,000 unit.

3. Several dozen photographers other then Oleg.

Why, in the seven hells, not about Oleg?
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: MicroBalrog on September 08, 2006, 11:07:48 PM
P.S. Does anybody have the original text that was posted there?
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Nathaniel Firethorn on September 09, 2006, 07:03:48 AM
Quote from: Jason M.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Oleg_Volk
And what it points to is:
Quote
00:02, 9 September 2006 Lucky 6.9 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Oleg Volk" (Seemingly nn bio)
From context, "nn" might mean non-notable. In which case it's an unsupported value judgment on the part of this "Lucky 6.9" individual.

Furthermore, I see several notability threshold criteria that Oleg passes with ease.

- NF
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Sylvilagus Aquaticus on September 09, 2006, 07:27:14 AM
I note that individual also had been officially recognised for his proclivity to be quick to delete entries.

Of course, the topics he's edited are not entirely mainstream, let alone critical to the Republic.

Regards,
Rabbit.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Oleg Volk on September 10, 2006, 10:46:58 PM
Google cached the original version, good for my amusement, at least.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 11, 2006, 06:15:47 AM
Has anyone bothered to ask Oleg if he wants himself to appear in Wikipedia?  I'm not sure I would...
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Oleg Volk on September 11, 2006, 07:32:24 AM
Could have its good and bad sides. Less controllable than my own site for PR purposes. Not sure of the accuracy. On the other hand, might attract interesting people. Probably more good than bad.
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: chaim on September 12, 2006, 04:12:05 AM
So it was deleted by someone saying it was a "non-notable" biography?

Fine.  Post on "The High Road" and/or "A Human Right".

It would be hard to discount a message board with over 35K members, over 8K active members, and over 200K threads as "non-notable".  It would also be hard to discount a site with how many hits, where its photography and posters are used by many pro-2nd Amendment people and often (against TOS) by anti-2nd sites as "non-notable".  Either entry would NEED a mention of Mr. Volk.

So, who wants to write it?
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Felonious Monk/Fignozzle on September 12, 2006, 08:53:20 AM
I for one am less than happy over Mr. Lucky 6.9's summary execution of Rabbi's article.

I guess I'm not familiar enough with Wiki's policy and procedure to know whether this action is acceptable, or can be questioned/remedied/corrected by educating the asshat.

Anyone? Anyone?
Title: We've GOT to do something!
Post by: Firethorn on September 12, 2006, 09:35:05 AM
Quote from: Felonious Fig
I for one am less than happy over Mr. Lucky 6.9's summary execution of Rabbi's article.

I guess I'm not familiar enough with Wiki's policy and procedure to know whether this action is acceptable, or can be questioned/remedied/corrected by educating the asshat.

Anyone? Anyone?
I took a look at his profile.  Seems that he likes deleting things.