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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: charby on December 13, 2013, 09:57:46 AM
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As many of you know I'm not a fan of pundits or fringe media muckrakers but it did find this little tid bit interesting:
http://therightscoop.com/boom-dan-bongino-serves-the-gop-establishment-with-divorce-papers/
I liked how Bongino described how the GOP used to be:
As for the GOP, we used to stand for something; a lean, effective government, vibrant and robust individual liberty, and a passionate defense of the value of hard work and a commensurate respect for your wages by consistently fighting for your right to keep more of them. Where do you stand now? I know where the grassroots does.
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*Wild applause*
I'm really tired of Boehner's need to preserve the squishy rino contingent that he belongs to.
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Thumbs up. The Republican establishment needs to wake up, but they won't.
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As for the GOP, we used to stand for something; a lean, effective government, vibrant and robust individual liberty, and a passionate defense of the value of hard work and a commensurate respect for your wages by consistently fighting for your right to keep more of them.
Ah yes - the good old days ;/
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The GOP has always and only stood for big government. Just their form of big government.
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Us small government libertarian minded folks have always been a thorn in the modern era GOP's side.
Reagan did a lot to bring us into the big tent coalition. In hind sight maybe the worse thing that could have happened to liberty.
Regardless, I'm done with the GOP as far as party line voting goes. I may vote for a random GOP candidate here and there if they have sufficiently proved themselves to have acted and voted in a liberty friendly way. No more voting on the rhetoric and then getting sold out later (the GOP way).
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The GOP has always and only stood for big government. Just their form of big government.
Might want to revise that statement in the face of folk like:
Barry Goldwater
Recent enough to not need examples.
Warren G Harding
Took a machete to Woodrow Wilson's progressive-fascist gov't. Strangled the infant Progressive flowering in gov't in the crib. Reduced size and scope of gov't dramatically.
Calvin Coolidge
Continued WGH's gov't reductions.
"When you see ten problems rolling down the road, if you don't do anything, nine of them will roll into a ditch before they get to you."
----Calvin Coolidge
"It is more important to kill bad bills than to pass good ones"
----Calvin Coolidge
"They criticize me for harping on the obvious; if all the folks in the United States would do the few simple things they know they ought to do, most of our big problems would take care of themselves."
----Calvin Coolidge
"... it is probable that a press which maintains an intimate touch with the business currents of the nation is likely to be more reliable than it would be if it were a stranger to these influences. After all, the chief business of the American people is business. They are profoundly concerned with buying, selling, investing and prospering in the world."
----President Calvin Coolidge's address to the American Society of Newspaper Editors, Washington D.C., January 25, 1925
...the ultimate assessment of his presidency is still divided between those who approve of his reduction of the size of government programs and those who believe the federal government should be more involved in regulating and controlling the economy.
With the exception of favoring increased tariffs, Coolidge disdained regulation, and carried about this belief by appointing commissioners to the Federal Trade Commission and the Interstate Commerce Commission who did little to restrict the activities of businesses under their jurisdiction.[102] The regulatory state under Coolidge was, as one biographer described it, "thin to the point of invisibility."
Robert Taft
As the U.S. Senate's main opponent of President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal domestic policies, after Roosevelt's death Taft successfully led the conservative coalition's effort to curb the expanding power of labor unions in America. Taft was also a major advocate of the foreign policy of non-interventionism.
Cooperating with conservative southern Democrats, he led the Conservative Coalition that opposed the New Deal. The Republican gains in the 1938 congressional elections, combined with the creation of the Conservative Coalition, had stopped the expansion of the New Deal. However, Taft saw his mission as not only stopping the growth of the New Deal but also eliminating many of the government programs that had already come from it.
A staunch non-interventionist, Taft believed that America should avoid any involvement in European or Asian wars and concentrate instead on solving its domestic problems. He believed that a strong U.S. military, combined with the natural geographic protection of the broad Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, would be adequate to protect America even if the Nazis overran all of Europe. Between the outbreak of war in September 1939 and the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in December 1941 Taft opposed nearly all attempts to aid Allied forces fighting the Nazis in Europe.
Taft condemned the postwar Nuremberg Trials as victor's justice under ex post facto laws, in which the people who won the war were the prosecutors, the judges, and the alleged victims – all at the same time. Taft condemned the trials as a violation of the most basic principles of American justice and internationally accepted standards
I could vote for a Zombie Cal.
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Goldwater, Harding, Coolidge....whatever happened to leaders of this kind. We need 'em again. We need 'em BAD.
But there aren't any. Even Ryan, who once appeared promising, is a sell-out.
What the H3LL happened to the republican party and just WHY am I still registered R ? ? ? ? ?
Need to buy more MREs, and more ammo...... AGAIN...... :'(
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Goldwater, Harding, Coolidge....whatever happened to leaders of this kind. We need 'em again. We need 'em BAD.
But there aren't any. Even Ryan, who once appeared promising, is a sell-out.
What the H3LL happened to the republican party and just WHY am I still registered R ? ? ? ? ?
Need to buy more MREs, and more ammo...... AGAIN...... :'(
I might also suggest waders and TP, as the $h!t seems to keep piling up...
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Goldwater, Harding, Coolidge....whatever happened to leaders of this kind. We need 'em again. We need 'em BAD.
But there aren't any. Even Ryan, who once appeared promising, is a sell-out.
What the H3LL happened to the republican party and just WHY am I still registered R ? ? ? ? ?
Need to buy more MREs, and more ammo...... AGAIN...... :'(
These type of leaders still exist today. Very few are in politics because of the costs to their health and family just to run and because they are unlikely to win since they are honest, hardworking, and forthright.
Further, they would likely be demonized as horrid "war on women" so-cons because most also happen to think murdering babies in the womb is as bad as murdering them outside the womb.
(I say this because most so-cons are also fi-cons. Those who think they can have one without the other will be waiting forever for that coalition to form.)
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These type of leaders still exist today. Very few are in politics because of the costs to their health and family just to run and because they are unlikely to win since they are honest, hardworking, and forthright.
Further, they would likely be demonized as horrid "war on women" so-cons because most also happen to think murdering babies in the womb is as bad as murdering them outside the womb.
(I say this because most so-cons are also fi-cons. Those who think they can have one without the other will be waiting forever for that coalition to form.)
They exist in both parties, problem is both parties feel the need to impose some sort litmus test that media eats up and discredits the people who should be leading the country.
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Goldwater (who lost horribly) aside, post-WWII I haven't seen any President from either party do much to slow the growth of fed.gov.
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Goldwater (who lost horribly) aside, post-WWII I haven't seen any President from either party do much to slow the growth of fed.gov.
I was only 7 years old when Goldwater ran, and even at that age I could tell he would be a good man for the job.
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I was only 7 years old when Goldwater ran, and even at that age I could tell he would be a good man for the job.
But but but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k
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But but but http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDTBnsqxZ3k
And the left hasn't changed a bit since then...
Of course, that sort of thing has been going on since the birth of politics, and the same stupid people still believe it.
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Goldwater (who lost horribly) aside, post-WWII I haven't seen any President from either party do much to slow the growth of fed.gov.
This. Right. There. Dropping 75+ year old examples of when the GOP had a spine....No, Timmy, there is no Santa Claus.
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The Republicans started out as the party of Big Government: enforcing tariffs and the first income tax, IIRC.