Armed Polite Society
Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Perd Hapley on December 31, 2013, 01:11:26 AM
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http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/chicago_news&id=9357070
Clerk shoots robber dead.
No charges filed. (yet)
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First of all, how are there guns in the safe zone of idyllic Chicago?
Secondly, how is anyone without a blue suit and a badge at large after admitting to shooting and killing someone?
:O
Surely, this is some suburb of Chicago, with dangerously lax, Missouri-style gun laws.
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Certain Alderpersons have since forever been allowed to have handguns. Also, regular folks, who unlike Alderpersons can never take the handgun out of the house or place of business, are now allowed to own handguns. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2010/0702/Chicago-passes-revised-gun-law-allowing-handgun-ownership
There's a process to follow. http://www.timeoutchicago.com/arts-culture/14746201/buying-registering-and-owning-a-legal-gun-in-chicago
stay safe.
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OK, but the guy didn't use the gun for some valid purpose, like hunting, or collecting, or target shooting. He used it for the sordid purpose of self-defense. That's going to be punished, right?
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no charges have been filed
yet
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If he legally purchased a clean gun it is hard to see how they can charge him with anything.
You are allowed to protect yourself in your home or place of business in Chicago. With guns now being legal to own it'll be interested to see what type of gyrations they go through if they charge him with something.
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If he legally purchased a clean gun it is hard to see how they can charge him with anything.
You are allowed to protect yourself in your home or place of business in Chicago. With guns now being legal to own it'll be interested to see what type of gyrations they go through if they charge him with something.
Remember, charging isn't the problem. Getting a conviction is the problem. Anymore, with the rampant plea bargaining throughout the system, all they need to do is file some charges that are severe enough to induce plea bargaining, and the antis can trumpet another victory over an evil gun owner. Unless the prosecutor has some integrity, or the public opinion polls show sufficient voter support of the shooter to make charges politically inadvisable.
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What Ron said.
If the gun was legally purchased.
If he had a valid FOID card.
If it was his business or if he had permission from the business owner to have and/or carry a firearm there.
All the hoops to register/own a firearm in Chicago are null and void. (all that went out the window when CCW passed). One simply just has to jump through the same hoops as the rest of Illinois gun owners.
So if he passes the first three, there's really nothing to charge him with. Much to the chagrin of the Mayor, State's Attorney, Supervisor of the CPD and Cook County Sheriff.
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"Another man inside the cell phone store reportedly broke an ankle trying to escape the gunfire. " (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/demarcus-brandon-shot_n_4426911.html)
Justifiable shooting or not, the store owners will pay, probably handsomely.
The Chicago Sun Time's Homicide Watch Chicago (http://homicides.suntimes.com/victims/demarcus-brandon/) (nice(?) of them to maintain a scoreboard) reaffirms my belief in the concept of public service homicide.
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What's a broken ankle worth? A couple grand to the docs, and a few grand more for "pain and suffering" would be my guess.
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What's a broken ankle worth?
Actually, I was thinking of "wrongful endangerment" and punitive damages layered over those considerations, but I may have been too long a Californian. ;)