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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: RoadKingLarry on January 06, 2014, 09:42:05 PM
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Hillary throws her hat in the ring
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3b.htm (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3b.htm)
And It looks more and more like Christie is interested in the job as well
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/packaging-a-president-christie-s-rollout-models-clinton-bush-and-obama-20131111 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/packaging-a-president-christie-s-rollout-models-clinton-bush-and-obama-20131111)
I can see the Stupid party running Christie. I'm not sure the Obama-nation will let Hillary in the door.
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Well, at least there would be a chance of seeing perhaps a record number of third party votes...
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Have we figured out how to pool enough money to buy our own country yet?
jim
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Too soon. The early candidates generally don't get the nomination.
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Too soon. The early candidates generally don't get the nomination.
It's not too early for Hillary. The Democrat nomination is hers for the asking. Christie on the other hand, I doubt he will be the GOP nominee. It is indeed too early for him to be the one. But rest assured the GOP will pick an equally stupid nominee.
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How depressing.
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Is it too early to pray for an asteroid?
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I'd say that the odds are very good that Hillary will be the Dem candidate for 2016. If it was not for Obama being the golden boy (he was chosen long before 2008...I knew he was going to be the Chosen One for 2008 after he gave the keynote speech at the Dem convention in 2004 and everybody was fawning over him). It was a hard decision for them to support Obama over Hillary but they went with the young, hip, black guy that was obviously going to walk all over the old, uncool McCain. Now it's Hillary's turn and I haven't heard of a golden boy waiting in the wings that could oppose her. The dems will unify behind her and steamroll over any challenger to the Dem nomination. This is one thing the Democrats are often very good at- picking one candidate and backing them to the hilt. It's now time to put the first woman in the white house and the Dems are shooting for that.
On the Republican side, Christie may or may not be the candidate that gets picked. For certain, it will be somebody like him. The Republicans let the opposition choose the Republican candidate. Notice how the viable candidates in the past elections were eliminated in favor of a RINO with no chance. Character assassination, lies, false accusations, whatever it takes, the viable candidates will be erased. Factions within the Republican party will assist. We will end up with a RINO candidate that is a gift from heaven for the Dems for two reasons
1) He's easily defeatable. He will not be charismatic. He will be portrayed at every turn as a doddering idiot. He will be the mean old rascist, sexist white guy that is hated by everyone. The weak RINO candidate will receive little support within his own party as those that do not like him will not support him.
2) Even if the RINO does win, the Dems do not lose. They have somebody that is easily malleable to going along with their legislative schemes. They have somebody that will help them more than hurt them, and vice versa for the Republicans. They have a patsy to blame when everything goes south "The republican president ruined the economy" or "he got us into a senseless war" or what have you. Easy to drum up anti republican sentiment for the next election.
Everybody wins-- except for America and her people.
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Hey, it just gives me an excuse to leave the stupid party all together now.
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I've already seen a "Hillary 2016" bumper sticker.
If Chistie in the GOP nominee there's not much point in not voting 3rd party. I'm only ammenable to voting for a RINO if the alternative is really that bad. At least by comparison. With CC that test would fail.
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Hillary v. Christie
Ebola v. The Black Death.
Such a choice. [barf]
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See I disagree.
I think Benghazi, and her sickness during the hearings about it have tarnished her enough they won't run her*. That said I don't have a clue who they will pick.
*My evidence for this belief is anecdotal from liberals in my wife's family (upper midwest) and liberals that I'm currently deployed with (SF bay area). Two diverse subsets of liberals that have both gotten sick of Mrs. Clinton.
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Is it too early to pray for an asteroid?
yes it is. Wait until they are in the same city at the same time.
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See I disagree.
I think Benghazi, and her sickness during the hearings about it have tarnished her enough they won't run her*. That said I don't have a clue who they will pick.
*My evidence for this belief is anecdotal from liberals in my wife's family (upper midwest) and liberals that I'm currently deployed with (SF bay area). Two diverse subsets of liberals that have both gotten sick of Mrs. Clinton.
If she is the candidate they will fall in line to defeat whatever rinopotamus the gop runs.
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If she is the candidate they will fall in line to defeat whatever rinopotamus the gop runs.
Agreed there. My sources (heh) imply that she will once again fail to receive the nomination.
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... It's now time to put the first woman in the white house and the Dems are shooting for that.
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And this is why Republicans have to play identity politics.
It's stupid. It's ugly. It's detrimental to the country's unity and future.
It also, clearly, works. Republicans need to run a woman, simply for the fact that she is a woman (which, I know, is sexist, but apparently women don't care if people are sexist in favor of women), in order to take away the "HISTORIC FIRST!!11!!11!" that the Democrats will be running on.
It's still not a lock for the Republicans to win in that case, but at least it takes one of the arrows out of the Democrat identity politics quiver.
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yes it is. Wait until they are in the same city at the same time.
I was hoping for the later this month during the SOTU address.
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I was hoping for the later this month during the SOTU address.
An asteroid strike on D.C. during the State of the Union address. That thought almost gives me a woody.
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An asteroid strike on D.C. during the State of the Union address. That thought almost gives me a woody.
It's our only hope.
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It's our only hope.
Obi-Wan Kenasteroid.
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Obi-Wan Kenasteroid.
Thank You! =D
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Hillary throws her hat in the ring
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3b.htm (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3b.htm)
And It looks more and more like Christie is interested in the job as well
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/packaging-a-president-christie-s-rollout-models-clinton-bush-and-obama-20131111 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/packaging-a-president-christie-s-rollout-models-clinton-bush-and-obama-20131111)
I can see the Stupid party running Christie. I'm not sure the Obama-nation will let Hillary in the door.
I wouldn't be surprised.
Probably wouldn't vote either.
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Wouldn't surprise me to see Harry Reid throw his hat into the ring. He's well rated by the NRA, taking the 2A arrow out of the GOP quiver. And he's supposedly more centrist than most other Democrats, even though he shills for Obamacare and every other lame social engineering program the dems come up with. Not sure how he enjoys the rep he does.
Christie will eat Rand Paul for second breakfast brunch elevensies lunch afternoon tea dinner supper in the primaries, though.
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Hillary v. Christie
Ebola v. The Black Death.
Such a choice. [barf]
That's unfair to both ebola and the plague. They'll kill you within what, a week or three? Hillary or Christie would kill you slowly over the course of atleast 4 years.
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Hillary could easily run the table. Just come out in favor of repeal of Obamacare because it was unworkable. Her plan of the 90's was much better and would work just fine. She would provide lots of cover for democrats heading for the tall weeds as a result of their support for a draconian program.
Would never happen. Both Hillarycare and Obamacare share one thing in common. It has nothing to do with medical care and is all about generating cash flow for fed.gov.
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Hillary has been anointed as the chosen one. Notice how Bill was the Keynote Speaker at the 2012 DNC?? No way were they going to allow another upstart to steal the nomination from Hillary like what happened in 2008 after Mr. Articulate wowed the audience in 2004.
The NYT just finished their tongue job, so she has some cover for Benghazi. However, if anyone at the RNC has half a brain they'll re-run her "2am Phone Call" commercials/sound bites and point out that she didn't answer the phone either. And I'd pound that point over and over. Same with Obamacare, "Hillarycare updated."
She's the RNC's dream opponent, if they play it right. All they have to do is make her out to be every guys ex-wife and they can take the election.
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Would never happen. Both Hillarycare and Obamacare share one thing in common. It has nothing to do with medical care and is all about generating cash flow for fed.gov.
No, it's not. It has to do with having the government in charge of people's lives. It has nothing to do with money. (It is (and will be) a net loser in "cash flow")
It's not necessarily because the liberals enjoy power. (Though the ones in power certainly do.) It is because they are certain that too many people won't make the correct choices and beneficent government must "put them on the right path."
Through force. For their own good, of course. This is, decidedly, WORSE than if they were simply power-hunger tyrants:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
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And this is why Republicans have to play identity politics.
It's stupid. It's ugly. It's detrimental to the country's unity and future.
It also, clearly, works. Republicans need to run a woman, simply for the fact that she is a woman (which, I know, is sexist, but apparently women don't care if people are sexist in favor of women), in order to take away the "HISTORIC FIRST!!11!!11!" that the Democrats will be running on.
It's still not a lock for the Republicans to win in that case, but at least it takes one of the arrows out of the Democrat identity politics quiver.
The problem is the people who respond to identity politics don't vote Republican anyway. Too many of the people who might vote Republican would be a bit disgusted by it.
Unless you mean Sarah Palin. I'd vote for her.
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I don't think Christie has enough broad support in the GOP to get the nomination, but I can see the stupid GOP money guys thinking he is "moderate" and therefore somehow able to get mythical independent voters.
I think Benghazi really tarnishes whatever "experience" Hillary has, but I have a feeling the same idiots who advised Romney will tell the GOP guy to be nice and not mention it thereby dooming his chances.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic
What a low-class thug. Petty mobster-wannabe.
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I don't think Christie has enough broad support in the GOP to get the nomination, but I can see the stupid GOP money guys thinking he is "moderate" and therefore somehow able to get mythical independent voters.
I have to sadly, disagree. He may not have broad support across the GOP, but I think he has broad support among the GOP demographics that "count" for those GOP money guys. I watch a lot of business shows, and the Wall Street guys mostly seem to love him. So it is with a lot of urban Republican's who are essentially RINOs, since they mostly care about fiscal stuff and also don't mind rules and regulations as long as they hurt the other guy.
When we analyze this stuff on APS, we have to remember that we're a small (but growing) segment of the political spectrum. While I would classify the majority of people here as "Republitarians", even the staunchest "mainstream" Republican on this forum is an outlier Tea party wacko to your average Republican (aka RINO). And most of the rest of us are Wookie suit wearing cheetos eaters. While we see "pops" in the MSM about Rand Paul's popularity, in the end it still comes down to, "Yeah, he appeals to those idealists, but guys like Christie are what the R's need to bring in the votes."
If it's not Christie, it'll be someone not unlike him. Though I do predict that Rand Paul will make a good show in the primaries and cause a lot of heartburn to the "GOP mainstream".
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic
What a low-class thug. Petty mobster-wannabe.
Well he is the Governor of New Jersey.
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Hillary throws her hat in the ring
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3b.htm (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3b.htm)
And It looks more and more like Christie is interested in the job as well
http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/packaging-a-president-christie-s-rollout-models-clinton-bush-and-obama-20131111 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/packaging-a-president-christie-s-rollout-models-clinton-bush-and-obama-20131111)
I can see the Stupid party running Christie. I'm not sure the Obama-nation will let Hillary in the door.
Excuse me while I go hang myself in the barn.
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Excuse me while I go hang myself in the barn.
You don't have a barn....
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You don't have a barn....
Or at the very least, you didn't build it!
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Excuse me while I go hang myself in the barn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XgfwV49Xk
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic
What a low-class thug. Petty mobster-wannabe.
I was just going to post this. the skeletons rise early with this one.
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I was just going to post this. the skeletons rise early with this one.
Well you don't get to be the Governer of New Jersey without being a Democrat, even if there is an R next to your name...
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crooks are crooks regardless of their party.
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You don't have a barn....
Isn't there a drain plug in the boat ??? =|
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I'd vote for Hillary out of the the two, the sooner we get this party started, the sooner it will be over.
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I'd vote for Hillary out of the the two, the sooner we get this party started, the sooner it will be over.
Christie would probably be more damaging.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic
What a low-class thug. Petty mobster-wannabe.
I actually saw that on NBC Nooz (might not see it if it was a democrat doing it) this morning. Doesn't bother me though, I'd sooner get rid of Crispy ASAP.
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I'd prefer the Dems have control of all three branches of govnm't when this thing crashes and burns.
Let the folks have what they want good and hard, as the quote goes.
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I was just going to post this. the skeletons rise early with this one.
He should simply say "what difference, at this point, does it make?" That makes it all okay.
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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic
What a low-class thug. Petty mobster-wannabe.
:snort: New Joisey. Whad'ja expect? :snort:
And, of course, he's pulling a Sergeant Schulz: "I know nussing!"
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He should simply say "what difference, at this point, does it make?" That makes it all okay.
:rofl:
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And, of course, he's pulling a Sergeant Schulz: "I know nussing!"
Seems to be working for Obama.
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I'd prefer the Dems have control of all three branches of govnm't when this thing crashes and burns.
it rarely matters who has the stick for the last 50 ft.
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The msm sure latched on to this harder than the irs abuses.
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The msm sure latched on to this harder than the irs abuses.
What IRS abuses? Whose that bengazi fella you keep yammering about? NSwut? Fast and Furius, hell that was a great movie what's wrong with you nutjobs?
Stop deflecting over this nutjob republican leader closing some traffic lanes *expletive deleted*!
[/sarcasm]
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The msm sure latched on to this harder than the irs abuses.
panem et circenses
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This is depressing. :'(
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The msm sure latched on to this harder than the irs abuses.
Right or wrong, maybe it will keep that bloviating gasbag off the ticket. We can be thankful for that.
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Right or wrong, maybe it will keep that bloviating gasbag off the ticket. We can be thankful for that.
The only other hope previously would have been him choking on a meatball.
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The only other hope previously would have been him choking on a meatball cannoli.
fify
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The only other hope previously would have been him choking on a meatball.
fify
"Just put it all in a bucket..."
The solution, naturally, would be a "wayfare-theen mint".
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Ooops, now it looks like a US Attorney is going to investigate the closure.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/christie-seeks-to-calm-political-firestorm-as-feds-probe-lane-closures/?intcmp=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/christie-seeks-to-calm-political-firestorm-as-feds-probe-lane-closures/?intcmp=latestnews)
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Ooops, now it looks like a US Attorney is going to investigate the closure.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/christie-seeks-to-calm-political-firestorm-as-feds-probe-lane-closures/?intcmp=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/christie-seeks-to-calm-political-firestorm-as-feds-probe-lane-closures/?intcmp=latestnews)
Which isn't politically motivated at all... nope... nothing to see here, move along and respect mah authoritah, folks! :police:
Way too much power in all these peoples' hands is the reason for all this mess.
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Ooops, now it looks like a US Attorney is going to investigate the closure.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/christie-seeks-to-calm-political-firestorm-as-feds-probe-lane-closures/?intcmp=latestnews (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/10/christie-seeks-to-calm-political-firestorm-as-feds-probe-lane-closures/?intcmp=latestnews)
Of course the feds will; Christie is a republican.
But no one is worrying over the IRS going after conservative tax exempt organizations, after all, everyone knows the IRS is run by saints when the prez iz a dem......
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Of course the feds will; Christie is a republican.
But no one is worrying over the IRS going after conservative tax exempt organizations, after all, everyone knows the IRS is run by saints when the prez iz a dem......
As is the NSA, BATFEIEIO, and DHS.
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I won't hold my breath, but the Left/MSM might actually be cutting their own throat here. From our nominal viewpoint, they SHOULD want Christie as the "backup" plan because he's such a lousy RINO in case Clinton didn't win.
However, I think they're misjudging the situation badly, and are SCARED of him, thinking he's the kind of "edgy moderate" (oxymoron as it is) that will pull both the GOP and the middle and win over Hillary. They don't realize that the "enthusiasm gap" on the Right would be even WORSE with him than it was with McCain or Romney.
It actually leaves more room for the likes of Paul or Cruz in the primaries. Hell, Christie makes Rubio look GOOD. And then maybe with changes like Reince Priebus, while far from perfect, at least able to win in a purple/blue state like WI, and not being an RNC chair with his head not in his ass, re-working the GOP primary to do some basic triage for the party, like giving the lefty MSM the boot as moderators, it at least paves the way for a conservative miracle.
If they don't win with a principled conservative. Oh well, getting the government we deserve and all that.
Light the match, get this over with, as others have said. =|
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Harry Reid just killed his "pro-gun" reputation by supporting anti-gun judges and finally coming out in support of an AW ban after the Conn. massacre.
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Since I use Adblocker and glhostly and few others, I don't get pop-ups at home. However, I'm here at the library (need to print a bunch of stuff) and HOLY CRAP !!! Every page is another "Ready for Hillary" ad !!!!
I'm about ready to toss my cookies.
And yes, Christie is dead as a presidential candidate. This sinks him, which the MSM may come to regret, this leaves the field wide open for a true conservative (or at least someone more conservative) to run. Someone just needs to start hitting the Reagan message while Hillary runs on "If you liked Barak, You'll love me!! And that's an order!! Because it's my turn, Dammit!!!"
Failing that. I'm with AJ.
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Is he supposed to look like a zombie?
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I will not vote for Romney. That's a giant period
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I will not vote for Romney. That's a giant period
He's already said there's no way he's running.
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I've seen articles pimping both Romney and McCain for 2016. I'm hoping they're just trying to trick conservatives into committing suicide.
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McCain's probably stupid enough to. By all accounts Romney is firmly in the camp of "*expletive deleted*ck that, twice was enough"