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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: AZRedhawk44 on January 07, 2014, 03:50:52 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLbZzGoD5HU
He's getting 59 counts per minute.
Anyone know what a reasonable background count, pre-Fukushima, might be, for the Midwest?
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:facepalm:
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paging gewhr
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Eating some bananas and some Brazil nut is probably about several dozen times as much radiation.
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Eating some bananas and some Brazil nut is probably about several dozen times as much radiation.
So how did the bananas and nuts get into the snow ???
:lol:
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:facepalm:
This.
More from the granite countertops in your kitchen, more from the potassium 40 in bananas, more living 1mi above sea level in Denver etc...
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You guys are buzz kills.
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Guys got great toys and better production than typical
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Looking at the counts from the beta/gamma detector, it looks a lot like normal background radiation.
Sporadic hits, and I can't see what the sensitivity of the GM tube is set at. 42-46 CPM is considered normal background activity.
I don't even get interested until it pops above 100 CPM on the ground, and flying in a commercial airliner at FL 35.0 gets you closer to 900 CPM.
If I set my own Victoreen 491 to 0.1x sensitivity with fast needle response, it'll jump around all day long to radon, cosmic rays, cinder block, etc.
Put a piece of orange pre-war Fiestaware in front of it, and it'll light up like a christmas tree.
Questions I'd ask, were I still tasked to check it out, would be calibration date of instruments, age of GM tube, instrument settings, readings in different areas, and samples gathered for counting.
IOW is it the snow? Is it the ground under the snow? Is the detector set to high gain and spiking on cosmic rays? What does it read across town? What does it read on the other side of the county?
I know what it reads all over the US.
http://epa.gov/radnet/
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If it was radiation from Fukishima you would think that every Coast Guard or Navy boarding team in the Pacific would have had their PRD's and RADPACKS going off. It could be related to the local environment.
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Chemtrails. [tinfoil] [tinfoil] [tinfoil] [tinfoil] [tinfoil]
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Here is this:
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/
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Well, it explains that extra head. And here I was, blaming that on Obamacare! :facepalm: :facepalm:
(Two facepalms, because I have two heads.)
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Well, it explains that extra head. And here I was, blaming that on Obamacare! :facepalm: :facepalm:
(Two facepalms, because I have two heads.)
I was going to ask if your wife was extra generous this week, but you had to go be all literal and ruin my ability to sneak that in.
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Well, it explains that extra head. And here I was, blaming that on Obamacare! :facepalm: :facepalm:
(Two facepalms, because I have two heads.)
Congratulations!
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The Improved Fistful - Now with twice the blame !!!!
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I was going to ask if your wife was extra generous this week, but you had to go be all literal and ruin my ability to sneak that in.
If you get that from Obamacare, then sign me up!
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If you're not running around in full MOPP gear at this point, you're doing it wrong.
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If you're not running around in full MOPP gear at this point, you're doing it wrong.
MOPP level 5! =D
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So what was the slow spike in Denver beginning 21 Dec?
http://epa.gov/radnet/radnet-data/radnet-denver-bg.html
(Scroll down to graph.)
Probably not dangerous, but it went across the whole energy spectrum for a couple of days. Can't remember offhand if it was snowing then.
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I don't know why there hasn't been very much coverage of a real Fukushima radiation story. That being our own CVN-76 sailed around for a few days in the radioactive steam plume, all the while making water from contaminated water. Now there are crewmembers with some serious health problems. This is a nuclear powered ship, hundreds of TLDs running around (they are read after the fact I know), a robust radiation safety program, designed to survive for awhile at least in an NBC environment and that''s the best we could do?
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I'm kind of in WTF mode about that mess myself. Having spent a few days sporting a TLD and being passing familiar with nookyalure stuff, IMO if even half of what has been reported regarding the Reagan and Fukushima is true the majority of the chain of command needs the be up on charges for dereliction of duty.
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I don't know why there hasn't been very much coverage of a real Fukushima radiation story. That being our own CVN-76 sailed around for a few days in the radioactive steam plume, all the while making water from contaminated water. Now there are crewmembers with some serious health problems. This is a nuclear powered ship, hundreds of TLDs running around (they are read after the fact I know), a robust radiation safety program, designed to survive for awhile at least in an NBC environment and that''s the best we could do?
Wonder if the command had enacted the NBC safety protocols when they entered the area. Protocols only work if you use them...
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I'm kind of in WTF mode about that mess myself. Having spent a few days sporting a TLD and being passing familiar with nookyalure stuff, IMO if even half of what has been reported regarding the Reagan and Fukushima is true the majority of the chain of command needs the be up on charges for dereliction of duty.
They received glowing commendations instead :angel:
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So what was the slow spike in Denver beginning 21 Dec?
http://epa.gov/radnet/radnet-data/radnet-denver-bg.html
(Scroll down to graph.)
Probably not dangerous, but it went across the whole energy spectrum for a couple of days. Can't remember offhand if it was snowing then.
I'm guessing solar flare. There was a jump in solar activity right about then.
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.solen.info%2Fsolar%2Fimages%2Fsolar.png&hash=2f2ce65db8e6fbaf09f345a49e41849e8c5eb542)
Brad
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Grew up in the 50s with all that above ground nuke testing. No one worried about radiation in the snow then. Now days, if you have an old watch with the radium dial, you are considered a radiation hazard.....chris3
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Thanks, Brad Johnson, for that graph on solar activity in that period. I guess the thing to do is check for similar spikes in other cities over that time period, but I'm too lazy to do that. (By the way, shouldn't the OP's "59 counts per minute" have been "59 counts per second?")
I reckon that while normal variations in background radiation are not much to get wet-your-pants panicy about, there are instances where ignorance (or coverups) have led to deaths, with both radioactive substances and other things.
The radium watch-dial painters and Madame Curie come to mind. I don't know about the other radiation pioneers... like for instance, did Becquerel have any problems after he x-rayed his hand?
Asbestos also comes to mind, and possibly PCBs (Polychlorinated biphenyl),
Then there's the unprovable but highly suspicious deaths of so many of the participants involved in filming the movie "The Conqueror" with John Wayne and Susan Hayward:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conqueror_(film)#Cancer_controversy
So I'm not going to wet my own pants about somebody finding "radioactive snow," but on the other hand, it's something to tag for "keeping an eye on."
Terry, 230RN
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Grew up in the 50s with all that above ground nuke testing. No one worried about radiation in the snow then. Now days, if you have an old watch with the radium dial, you are considered a radiation hazard.....chris3
Here in Washington, there have been lots of media stories over the years about the 'Downwinders': people who lived by the Hanford Nuclear Reservation and were exposed to high levels of radioactive contamination, and the health problems thereto.
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I don't know why there hasn't been very much coverage of a real Fukushima radiation story. That being our own CVN-76 sailed around for a few days in the radioactive steam plume, all the while making water from contaminated water. Now there are crewmembers with some serious health problems. This is a nuclear powered ship, hundreds of TLDs running around (they are read after the fact I know), a robust radiation safety program, designed to survive for awhile at least in an NBC environment and that''s the best we could do?
Same reason there wasn't discussion of Agent Orange during (and for a very long time after) the Vietnam interlude: the U.S. dot-gov doesn't wish to accept responsibility for poisoning its military personnel. If they stonewall it, it never happened.