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Title: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: TechMan on January 15, 2014, 09:28:46 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/15/nsa-maps-pathway-into-computers-report-says/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/01/15/nsa-maps-pathway-into-computers-report-says/)

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The National Security Agency has placed software on nearly 100,000 computers around the world that allows the U.S. to conduct surveillance on those machines using radio frequency technology, The New York Times reported Tuesday.

The secret technology allows the agency to gain access to computers that other countries have tried to protect from spying or cyberattacks, even if they aren't connected to the Internet, The Times reported, citing NSA documents, computer experts and U.S. officials.
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: RevDisk on January 15, 2014, 09:33:06 AM
So... They turned on Wifi?
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: TechMan on January 15, 2014, 09:36:49 AM
So... They turned on Wifi?

Probably.
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: bedlamite on January 15, 2014, 09:38:22 AM
So... They turned on Wifi?

Nope. Supposedly Intel cpus 2011 and newer have a 3G capability.

http://www.infowars.com/91497/ (http://www.infowars.com/91497/)
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: RevDisk on January 15, 2014, 10:14:58 AM
Nope. Supposedly Intel cpus 2011 and newer have a 3G capability.

http://www.infowars.com/91497/ (http://www.infowars.com/91497/)

Absolutely BS. I WISH it was true, it'd be friggin awesome to have that functionality built in.


This is covert transmitters, according to the NYT. Basically hiding small transmitters in USB cables, flash drives, etc. Not at the manufacturer level, apparently. Hell, that's been done for sixty years in various forms. I've seen Wifi enabled hardware keyloggers at Defcon for over a decade. You can now buy them online for about $100. Hell, they make keyboard keyloggers that look exactly OEM. The boards have the keylogger integrated in them, and it's pretty damn subtle. 3G, GSM or alternative frequency hardware keyloggers aren't exactly rocket surgery.

Meh, this is even more boring than covertly enabling WiFi on laptops.

Disappointing.


Title: Re:
Post by: Fitz on January 15, 2014, 11:47:07 AM
More tech journalism from tech luddites
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: AJ Dual on January 15, 2014, 01:03:01 PM
Reminds me of the hysteria prison guards had over Kevin Mitnick, when they believed he could whistle Captian Crunch/2600 tones at a open phone from across the room, and launch nuclear missiles.
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: MechAg94 on January 15, 2014, 01:13:50 PM
Absolutely BS. I WISH it was true, it'd be friggin awesome to have that functionality built in.


This is covert transmitters, according to the NYT. Basically hiding small transmitters in USB cables, flash drives, etc. Not at the manufacturer level, apparently. Hell, that's been done for sixty years in various forms. I've seen Wifi enabled hardware keyloggers at Defcon for over a decade. You can now buy them online for about $100. Hell, they make keyboard keyloggers that look exactly OEM. The boards have the keylogger integrated in them, and it's pretty damn subtle. 3G, GSM or alternative frequency hardware keyloggers aren't exactly rocket surgery.

Meh, this is even more boring than covertly enabling WiFi on laptops.

Disappointing.



So I should turn my home office into a Faraday cage?
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: AJ Dual on January 15, 2014, 01:18:45 PM
So I should turn my home office into a Faraday cage?

No... I think you should make it into a sexy cage...  :-*

Because if you make your NSA case-worker cry, it's 10 points. Cry in the shower while scrubbing desperately, 15 points. Vomit, 25 points.
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: Ben on January 15, 2014, 04:20:18 PM
So I should turn my home office into a Faraday cage?

The question is: Why is it not a Faraday cage already? :P
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: RocketMan on January 15, 2014, 08:43:10 PM
Okay, I wrapped my laptop completely in tinfoil.  What do I do next?
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: Jim147 on January 15, 2014, 09:00:51 PM
Okay, I wrapped my laptop completely in tinfoil.  What do I do next?

Put it in the microwave. Ten minutes should do it.

jim
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: TechMan on January 15, 2014, 10:14:47 PM
Put it in the microwave. Ten minutes should do it.

jim

I heard it was fifteen minutes and a cup of water.
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: Firethorn on January 16, 2014, 12:44:31 AM
Okay, I wrapped my laptop completely in tinfoil.  What do I do next?

Ah, that's why your laptop it broadcasting so loudly!  No need to shout, we can hear you just fine without the help.   [popcorn]
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: bedlamite on January 16, 2014, 02:03:09 AM
Firethorn, I think the NSA hacked your account.
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: Regolith on January 16, 2014, 03:23:18 AM
No... I think you should make it into a sexy cage...  :-*

Because if you make your NSA case-worker cry, it's 10 points. Cry in the shower while scrubbing desperately, 15 points. Vomit, 25 points.

What if you make them cry in the shower while desperately scrubbing off the vomit?
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: Firethorn on January 16, 2014, 06:01:57 AM
Firethorn, I think the NSA hacked your account.

I was making a funny.   :angel:

Seriously:  TEMPEST
Title: Re: NSA reportedly using radio waves to snoop on offline computers worldwide
Post by: AJ Dual on January 16, 2014, 09:37:27 AM
What if you make them cry in the shower while desperately scrubbing off the vomit?

You get a job offer. GS12, with benefits.