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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: vaskidmark on March 06, 2014, 09:55:14 PM
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Is it better to set the clocks ahead before you go to sleep Saturday night/early Sunday morning so that you do not automatically lose an hour when you wake up?
About all that daylight we saved last year - how come we could not use any of it to melt the snow/ice we've been having lately?
Is everyone's saved daylight kept in a separate container, or is it all mixed together? If it's all mixed together, can I get extra daylight if, when I withdraw some of my savings, I get some wrinkled, used daylight instead of it all being crisp new daylight like what I personally deposited?
Yes I was discussing DSL with a 3-year old today. They know all the questions and insist I provide the answers. Not fair!
stay safe.
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Is everyone's saved daylight kept in a separate container, or is it all mixed together?
Al Gore's lock box.
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Is everyone's saved daylight kept in a separate container, or is it all mixed together? If it's all mixed together, can I get extra daylight if, when I withdraw some of my savings, I get some wrinkled, used daylight instead of it all being crisp new daylight like what I personally deposited?
It's been socialized, all thrown together into a common People's Daylight pool and frittered away by some federal agency.
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I'm just miffed no one its studying the impact an extra hour of daylight is having on global warming, but instead focuses on CO2 etc.
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I'm just miffed no one its studying the impact an extra hour of daylight is having on global warming, but instead focuses on CO2 etc.
They actually do.
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DST is a serious hazard. More tornadoes happen during DST because of the extra hour of solar heating destabilizing the atmosphere.
(Seriously had someone try to convince me of that once.)
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Remember it's Spring Back and Fall Forward.
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Remember it's Spring Back and Fall Forward.
in 1981 when my boat pulled into MINSY we got in late afternoon on a Saturday. DST turned over on Sunday. The entire oncoming duty section, officers, chiefs and men, fore and aft were late. One of the few times I ever saw a command publicly smack down a chief. The torpedo chief wrote up the torpedoman for the duty section for being UA. CO made an announcement on Monday that everyone in Sunday's duty section had to report to TMC Smith to be written up for being an hour late Sunday morning and he expected the paperwork to be in his hands by noon.
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It's an evil consperiocy designed to screw up my sleep patterns. >:(
Stupid, stupid, stupid. At least it won't be so hard to fall back since I automatically wake up at 5 am, although I prefer to wake up and go back down for an hour then wake up, doze off and realize I'm way late for work an hour later.
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Always throws me off for a couple of days. Like bluestarlizzard, I seem to be tuned to the sun, despite my big-city upbringing. I guess it's my Inner Pagan operating.
It's not as disruptive now that I'm retired, though. Just a pain to go around to all of the clocks and change them. One or two are not all that accessible, and the one in the car I forget about for a week or more because I'm usually driving when I look at it and remember it's off an hour.
Terry
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My wife and I both seem to have a clock fetish.
A few years ago I got tired of resetting 37 clocks twice a year and we pulled batteries out of all but a few. Now it takes us about 5 minutes instead of about 35 minutes to reset all the clocks.
The none working clocks all are smiles. 10:10
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My wife and I both seem to have a clock fetish.
Boy did I read that sentence wrong. :laugh:
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I loves me some DST and would like to have year-round DST to maximize daylight in the evenings.
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As to where they put the daylight they save up, the gov't has been in daylight deficit for YEARS. The daylight debt is accumulating and our children and grandchildren will have us to thank when their summer days are truncated to a mere four hours and the sun does not rise at all during winter.
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Boy did I read that sentence wrong. :laugh:
Whew! Me, too! I wasn't the only one. Thanks for bringing it up.... oh, wait... never mind.
I'm not signing this one so nobody will know who posted it.
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Maybe fetish was a poor choice of words. :facepalm: We like the old world style and enjoy collecting them.
And for clarification
C...L...O...C...K as in time keeping device.
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My wife and I both seem to have a clock fetish.
A few years ago I got tired of resetting 37 clocks twice a year and we pulled batteries out of all but a few. Now it takes us about 5 minutes instead of about 35 minutes to reset all the clocks.
The none working clocks all are smiles. 10:10
Or every six months figuring out how to change the time on a digital watch.
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I think the gubbermint is taking all that daylight that we save during the summer and selling it off to places like Australia, Argentina, and Chile. >:D
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I think the gubbermint is taking all that daylight that we save during the summer and selling it off to places like Australia, Argentina, and Chile. >:D
Don't you mean "giving" to insure their loyalty and cooperation? That's the way it normally works, opposite hemispheres notwithstanding.
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I think the gubbermint is taking all that daylight that we save during the summer and selling it off to places like Australia, Argentina, and Chile. >:D
That won't work. All of those countries are in the Southern hemisphere. When it is dark here, it is light there. Winter here, spring there. Up is down, clockwise is counterclockwise.
Our government is stealing their daylight by giving them our unused daylight!
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That won't work. All of those countries are in the Southern hemisphere. When it is dark here, it is light there. Winter here, spring there. Up is down, clockwise is counterclockwise.
Our government is stealing their daylight by giving them our unused daylight!
They have plenty of daylight in the winter so that's where I figure all of our summer daylight that we saved is going.
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What is this "clock changing" ritual of which you speak? We don't celebrate that here. Though, twice a year, something screws with all the TV schedules.
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I've got vehicle clocks that I've never figured out how to change, and no owners manual =(
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I've got vehicle clocks that I've never figured out how to change, and no owners manual =(
Uhm... (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=change+clock+time+on+a+suburban)
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Is it better to set the clocks ahead before you go to sleep Saturday night/early Sunday morning so that you do not automatically lose an hour when you wake up?
Forget changing the clocks, just set them to UTC and remember current offset of your time zone.
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Maybe fetish was a poor choice of words. :facepalm: We like the old world style and enjoy collecting them.
And for clarification
C...L...O...C...K as in time keeping device.
Trucker clock! Who wants some? ;)
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I'm of the opinion that our mucking with the clocks causes so much extra work in many computer fields that we should just quit doing it. Keep the clocks sane. If you want to save daylight just switch hours of operation from 9-5 to 8-4. Retailers should also just adjust in similar fashion: 8am - 8pm in my case.
We already adjust all our schedules to comply with DST, the work is done, but we f*ck with the clocks in such a manner that isn't even necessary.
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I like DST, but hate the switch. Thats stupid.
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Split the difference and leave it be- every time I get used to waking up at a certain time, the damned DST switches and have to get re acclimated.
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Dayam, my computer says 4:13 AM but my body and my clocks disagree.
I had one of those Casio "Atomic" watches for a while and it switched over automatically from the WWV time signals at Fort Collins. That was one less timekeeper I had to fuss with.
That got me interested in how they transmitted the signals. Turns out they xmit at 65 kHz, which is a wavelength of 4615.4 kilometers or 2900-ish miles if my arithmetic is correct.
Wow! And hams talk about the "DC Band" of 160 meters!*
So that made me wonder what the receiving antenna in the watch looked like.
Some of them look like fractal antennas:
http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/gadgets/atomic-watch-inside.jpg
But mine just had a teeny little loopstick antenna curved to fit inside the case with many many turns of really really fine wire.
Amazing.
Well, to me anyhow.
This is an early model.
http://cdn4.fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/atomic-wristwatch.jpg
Since mine had a plastic case, the hole in which the wristband pin fit finally broke out and was unrepairable, even with my consummate repair skills :), so I gave the still-working body to an enterprising young man who wanted to fiddle with it.
Well just more "Thoughts on Daylight Saving(s) Time".
Terry
* Hams speak of the 160 meter ham band, which is just above the AM broadcast band, as the "DC Band" because of the low frequency involved, 1.8 MHz, compared to other ham bands. As far as most hams are concerned, that low a frequency is almost down to "Direct Current," hence the time-honored joke about "the DC band."
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I'm a grave shifter. The good is that it'll still be dark when I leave work & I get off an hour early this morning.
The bad is it's going to mess up what little sleep pattern I have & people might use it as an excuse to be late claiming they didn't know.
Some years I just leave all my clocks alone & just set the alarm an hour earlier or later accordingly.
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We should all move to Indiana.
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Split the diff and quite screwing with it.
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DST should die. Summer hours year round. Nothing sadder than it being dark at 5pm
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DST should die. Summer hours year round. Nothing sadder than it being dark at 5pm
Dark at 9am ? =|
Should be "standard" time all year long so that noon is at least somewhat close to sun meridian.
Although that means that it is getting light about 3.30am here in the summer. :lol:
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We should all move to Indiana.
Indiana finally went to DST a few year ago.
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DST should die. Summer hours year round. Nothing sadder than it being dark at 5pm
This. It gets a little depressing.
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Cool, now the clock in my truck reads the correct time................so does my VCR.....chris3
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Its ....12:00 ....12:00.......12:00 .........12:00.... where you are?
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Indiana finally went to DST a few year ago.
Arizona is still Standard only.
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Arizona is still Standard only.
Which means part of the year they are the same time as Montana, and the other part they are an hour earlier. ;/
Of course, I basically work in Arizona - so the meeting times get confused =(
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You need two clocks on the wall of your workspace.
Rats. The reminds me. I also have to correct my local time on the Hawaii gun site. I think that one always gets messed up. I'll go check.
Heck, this one's messed up, too. I just noticed my MDT posting time was actually 1:00 PM-ish.
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Test, test....
OK, that's right now. The time autocorrect is working. Seems some sites have trouble with autocorrect if you do it within 7 hours of midnight (for the Mountain zones at 105 W longitude.)
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Test, test....
You're not here.
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^ I realize that. Still, the time autocorrect has been wrong (not sure if on this site) on a couple of sites I visit if I dink with it within that +/-7 hours.
It was set to +1 hour, so I must have changed it within that 7 hours the last time everything kicked over. Autocorrect is OK now, 10 hours after the change at 2:00 AM.
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APS seems to be three hours later than here. What is it - on Newfoundland time ???
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DST should die. Summer hours year round. Nothing sadder than it being dark at 5pm
Nature dictates that it be dark longer in the winter then the summer.
I personally don't care if it's dark at 9 am or 5pm, I just want to get up at 6 am, without having to get up at 5 am because the clock says it's 6 am, but my brain says it's 5 am, damnit, and I just want to go back to sleep.
(and for the record, although I halfway enjoy getting up at 6 am when my brain says it's 7am and my body gets tricked for a few days with an extra hour of sleepy time, it really does screw me up since that last hour of "sleep" isn't really sleep for a few months afterwards)
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Indiana finally went to DST a few year ago.
Yeah, I used to do a lot of trucking in and through the Hoosier, and it was a real pain in the tookus with the screwy time zones.
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DST should die. Summer hours year round. Nothing sadder than it being dark at 5pm
Yep. Can;t get nothing done outside the house after work in the dark.
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Yep. Can;t get nothing done outside the house after work in the dark.
Indeed. Its nice to be able to work outside until 8:30-9 without dragging out the lights...especially when Im on a rush job.
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Indeed. Its nice to be able to work outside until 8:30-9 without dragging out the lights...especially when Im on a rush job.
Yeah but it's light up here until 10.30 pm or so with DST =|
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I don't know if I should blame DST, but I couldn't get to sleep until about 3, last night. Had to be up around 6. However, sleeplessness is a thing with me. I went to bed around 12 the night before that, and slept about 8 hours or so.
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Coffee isn't the only thing known to cause sleeplessness. MSG (and the various aliases they use to disguise it) does a fine job of keeping the brain humming all night. And they put it in almost every prepared food. ("Hydrolyzed vegetable proteins" and "Flavoring" are two words to watch out for in ingredient lists --these are usually other forms of glutamates.)
That's an obvious one, but paprika and vitamin C does it for me as well.
Significant tensions (illness, argument, etc.) with a family member (or yourself) or close friend will certainly do it, too.