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Title: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Balog on April 22, 2014, 11:52:05 PM

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2014/04/22/first-look-heizer-defense-par1-pocket-ar-pistol/

Seems like a silly idea. Terrible ballistics, mind numbing flash, sized like a small 9mm.

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 23, 2014, 12:01:31 AM

$450 for a single-shot poodle shooter?

Another answer to an unasked question.

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 23, 2014, 12:11:30 AM

You guys just don't appreciate progress. I plan to carry one as a backup to my Judge.

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Nick1911 on April 23, 2014, 12:13:49 AM

The real question is: Can the ATF use this to muck up anything else for the rest of us?

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 23, 2014, 12:28:12 AM

Quote from: Nick1911 on April 23, 2014, 12:13:49 AM

The real question is: Can the ATF use this to muck up anything else for the rest of us?

My first thought as well.

(I don't think so, since .223 pistols have been around for several years).

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Balog on April 23, 2014, 12:39:56 AM

And the steel core 5.56 that's imported is exempted by name.

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 23, 2014, 12:42:14 AM

Gives new meaning to "Saturday Night Special."

'Cause you never know when the short bus might get hijacked.

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: brimic on April 23, 2014, 08:08:23 AM

Meh. I'll wait for one in .410/.45Colt  :P

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: griz on April 23, 2014, 08:14:57 AM

You guys are thinking it's silly because it will barely outperform a 22 magnum from that short of barrel.  But you are missing the point.  It's not a defensive pistol, it's a pocket flamethrower.

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: geronimotwo on April 23, 2014, 08:22:15 AM

i'd be curious to see how far the flash would travel.

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: HankB on April 23, 2014, 09:40:03 AM

Gee, with that ultra-short barrel, a .223 bullet might even be subsonic, at least with some ammo . . . and then it could probably be suppressed efficiently.   :rofl:

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: mtnbkr on April 23, 2014, 10:10:30 AM

Ya know, if thing was cheap enough, say sub $250, I'd get one just to experiment with alternative loadings.  How about a "heavy for caliber" lead bullet with a charge of Trail Boss to start with.  Success would depend on the twist rate, but it could be a fun experiment...

Chris

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: TechMan on April 23, 2014, 10:29:26 AM

Quote from: brimic on April 23, 2014, 08:08:23 AM

Meh. I'll wait for one in .410/.45Colt  :P

You were saying?    http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/08/21/first-look-heizer-defense-pocket-shotgun/ (http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/08/21/first-look-heizer-defense-pocket-shotgun/)

Title: Re: Heizer introduces .223 pocket pistol
Post by: Viking on April 23, 2014, 10:32:06 AM

Any idea how recoil would be in this thing?