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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Balog on July 08, 2014, 01:11:59 AM
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This is a full on invasion, fueled by Cloward Piven dreams of amnesty.
hotair.com/archives/2014/07/07/report-300000-central-american-immigrants-heading-to-u-s/
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First large scale epidemic that gets traced back to a bussed illegal (I'm betting on multi spectrum resistant TB) and things will get interesting.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints
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I'm still of the mind that this mess has the potential to turn into a watershed event.
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I'm waiting for Governors Perry and Brewer to mobilized the National Guard and put them on the border. Could make things very interesting.
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I'm waiting for Governors Perry and Brewer to mobilized the National Guard and put them on the border. Could make things very interesting.
They should have done so months ago. One big problem: What would the rules of engagement be?
Question: Why is the invasion influx concentrated on Arizona and Texas? New Mexiso sits right between them, and Ciudad Juarez is very close to the Mexican side. Why aren't we seeing/hearing reports of hordes crossing into NM?
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They should have done so months ago. One big problem: What would the rules of engagement be?
Question: Why is the invasion influx concentrated on Arizona and Texas? New Mexiso sits right between them, and Ciudad Juarez is very close to the Mexican side. Why aren't we seeing/hearing reports of hordes crossing into NM?
Two main reasons, 1) shorter border and 2) not any large towns near the border.
As for the ROE maybe if you come across armed you are considered an invading army and light their asses up. Maybe a few dead Mexican military members on our side of the border will be the wake up call all involved need.
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And Obama, who is "handling immigration on my own" is heading to Texas. He will not be going to the border. He will be going there to fund raise. If I were "doing it on my own" I would want to go to the border so I could collect information on what I'm dealing with.
Or maybe instead of flooding border communities with busloads of illegal aliens, we could send them to DC, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, and all the other cities with loudmouths telling these small border communities with strapped resources to "be humanitarians". Put your money and spare bedrooms where your mouths are, yo.
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I'm waiting for Governors Perry and Brewer to mobilized the National Guard and put them on the border. Could make things very interesting.
Screw the National Guard. Send TXDPS and give them more of these.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/04/have-you-seen-the-bulletproof-texas-gunboats-equipped-with-automatic-machine-guns-that-will-battle-drug-cartels-on-the-water/
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And Obama, who is "handling immigration on my own" is heading to Texas.
He IS handling it on his own, I think it's going pretty much as he wants it to.
Just like the rise of ISIS in the Middle East; Obama probably views them as a second chance to further his agenda, now that his Muslim Brotherhood buddies have been dealt a setback in Egypt.
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He IS handling it on his own, I think it's going pretty much as he wants it to.
Just like the rise of ISIS in the Middle East; Obama probably views them as a second chance to further his agenda, now that his Muslim Brotherhood buddies have been dealt a setback in Egypt.
None dare call it treason
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Screw the National Guard. Send TXDPS and give them more of these.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/07/04/have-you-seen-the-bulletproof-texas-gunboats-equipped-with-automatic-machine-guns-that-will-battle-drug-cartels-on-the-water/
The $558,000 vessels are equipped with bullet-proof panels, 900-horsepower engines and fully automatic machine guns that can fire 900 rounds-per-minute. In other words, these gunboats aren’t just for show.
I gotta get me one of those! fully automatic machine guns
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/shrug/
I assume that the country by in large wants this. If we didn't, we would have fixed the border problem long ago.
Instead, we're at the point where if you oppose illegal immigration, you're declared a bigot.
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I gotta get me one of those! fully automatic machine guns
M240s, specifically. IIRC, 5 or 6 per boat, pintle mounted. Serious firepower compared to BP agents with pistols, and these are manned by DPS troopers with, most likely, their full tactical loadout ready at hand as well. Wouldn't be surprised if they had a few other tricks stashed away too. I think Texas has a fair handle on what we need to be ready for at the border.
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/shrug/
I assume that the country by in large wants this. If we didn't, we would have fixed the border problem long ago.
Instead, we're at the point where if you oppose illegal immigration, you're declared a bigot.
I don't think that's a true assumption, as it's based on the premise that the majority are aware of the problem. They have some vague notions of fairness and starving children and some dude down at Home Depot who wants to work hard at the jobs Americans won't do. Even in the border states a lot of folks are unaware of the severity of the problem.
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I don't think that's a true assumption, as it's based on the premise that the majority are aware of the problem. They have some vague notions of fairness and starving children and some dude down at Home Depot who wants to work hard at the jobs Americans won't do. Even in the border states a lot of folks are unaware of the severity of the problem.
I think people are aware of the situation, but we are also a nation of immigrants many who's ancestors came over without some sort of legal means of entry, i.e. pre Ellis Island days.
People also know that these illegals are coming from a very shitty environment and can sympathize with their plight to come to the US.
What would you do if you were born in one the Latin American countries and had the same education level as these illegals?
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There's also the knowledge that you(I) can't do a thing to stop it.
I vote.So what.
I grouse with my friends.So what.
I read stuff on the internet.So what.
Then there's the someone else's problem aspect.The Southern border is a long ways away.My town has a LOT of Hispanics but the criminals that make the news are either a)teenagers of un-reported ethnicity or b)black.With the usual middle aged white pedophiles thrown in for good measure.If more Latino crime happened here or was reported then it'd get more traction.NIMBY.
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I think people are aware of the situation, but we are also a nation of immigrants many who's ancestors came over without some sort of legal means of entry, i.e. pre Ellis Island days.
People also know that these illegals are coming from a very shitty environment and can sympathize with their plight to come to the US.
What would you do if you were born in one the Latin American countries and had the same education level as these illegals?
If you were an illiterate black teen from Detroit with no other options, would you take to armed robbery? Do you think the circumstances that drove you to it would matter to your victims?
People will protect their families, even in zero sum situations where that means others do without. Better that we should stay a first world nation than that the whole world gets dragged down to the level of the banana republics.
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There's also the knowledge that you(I) can't do a thing to stop it.
I vote.So what.
I grouse with my friends.So what.
I read stuff on the internet.So what.
Then there's the someone else's problem aspect.The Southern border is a long ways away.My town has a LOT of Hispanics but the criminals that make the news are either a)teenagers of un-reported ethnicity or b)black.With the usual middle aged white pedophiles thrown in for good measure.If more Latino crime happened here or was reported then it'd get more traction.NIMBY.
Around here when a news agency fails to mention the suspects race the first couple of times it is mentioned I automatically assume they are "black." Any other time they immediately say if they were white, Hispanic or Asian and at least half the time the "Hispanic" is Native American.
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If you were an illiterate black teen from Detroit with no other options, would you take to armed robbery? Do you think the circumstances that drove you to it would matter to your victims?
I don't think you can really compare armed robbery to people illigally entering a country to escape some shithole to protect them and their family.
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I don't think you can really compare armed robbery to people illigally entering a country to escape some shithole to protect them and their family.
Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?
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Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?
In essence they are, they are just using our federal government to do the robbing for them.
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"Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?"
In essence they are, they are just using our federal government to do the robbing for them.
I'd rather have them prying at my doors to steal from me directly.At least then I'd have a chance to defend myself.
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If you were an illiterate black teen from Detroit with no other options, would you take to armed robbery? Do you think the circumstances that drove you to it would matter to your victims?
People will protect their families, even in zero sum situations where that means others do without. Better that we should stay a first world nation than that the whole world gets dragged down to the level of the banana republics.
Did you get upset when the Bosnian Refugees came here? Did you get upset with the Ugandans? How about the Hmongs?
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Did you get upset when the Bosnian Refugees came here? Did you get upset with the Ugandans? How about the Hmongs?
Were tens of millions of them coming into the country illegally?
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Around here when a news agency fails to mention the suspects race the first couple of times it is mentioned I automatically assume they are "black." Any other time they immediately say if they were white, Hispanic or Asian and at least half the time the "Hispanic" is Native American.
Much truth!!!
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Did you get upset when the Bosnian Refugees came here? Did you get upset with the Ugandans? How about the Hmongs?
Don't forget the Irish. And there were terrorists amongst them
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I do not blame the illegals, anymore than I blame people on welfare- they are responding in a logical way to the incentives granted them.
I do blame those who offered those incentives.
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Were tens of millions of them coming into the country illegally?
No, only because there was an ocean between us and them. Having to swim thousands of miles tends to slow down the rate of entry.
Chris
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No, only because there was an ocean between us and them. Having to swim thousands of miles tends to slow down the rate of entry.
Chris
Kind of my point. This is different from previous mass immigration for any number of reasons, but that's one of them.
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If I were "doing it on my own" I would want to go to the border so I could collect information on what I'm dealing with.
Not necessary, he already got it off of CNN.
Obama is now claiming that most of the children will be deported. Might be tough to wiggle out of that one when it doesn't happen. On the other hand, by the time their deportation hearings roll around, 90% of those kids might then be adults.
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Obama is now claiming that most of the children will be deported. Might be tough to wiggle out of that one when it doesn't happen.
Won't matter; it will be "in the works" until he's long gone.
On the other hand, by the time their deportation hearings roll around, 90% of those kids might then be adults elderly.
FIFY
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Hmm...where have I seen this before...
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http://www.amazon.com/The-Camp-Saints-Jean-Raspail/dp/1881780074
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I really wish that was available digitally.
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I really wish that was available digitally.
Why not a hard copy?
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Why not a hard copy?
Costs more, my bookshelves are full, and I like reading on the Kindle app for my phone while waiting on elevators and such.
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Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?
Not the same. Being on one side of the line, and then moving to the other isn't the same as robbing someone.
Were tens of millions of them coming into the country illegally?
Tens of milloins over how long of a time?
Costs more, my bookshelves are full, and I like reading on the Kindle app for my phone while waiting on elevators and such.
Must be a fast reader to get any reading done on an elevator. :O
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Not the same. Being on one side of the line, and then moving to the other isn't the same as robbing someone.
It isn't robbery, but it is a mala in se crime.
Tens of milloins over how long of a time?
I don't think any previous mass migration has had the numbers of this one, which doesn't even take into account the differing conditions of the country then and now.
Must be a fast reader to get any reading done on an elevator. :O
Paragraph here, paragraph there it all adds up.
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It isn't robbery, but it is a mala in se crime.
Is it now?
Paragraph here, paragraph there it all adds up.
I just can't enjoy a book like that. If I'm going to read I need to have at least an hour or two for it that way I can really get engrossed in it.
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Is it now?
Yes. The citizens of a nation own it, and they have every bit as much right to control their borders as you have to control your domicile.
I just can't enjoy a book like that. If I'm going to read I need to have at least an hour or two for it that way I can really get engrossed in it.
Certainly preferable, but I've got two kids so I take what I can get. ;)
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Secure the borders and let immigrants in an orderly fashion with at least a minimum of vetting.
Letting anyone just waltz across our border is just begging for troubles and complications.
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Secure the borders and let immigrants in an orderly fashion with at least a minimum of vetting.
Letting anyone just waltz across our border is just begging for troubles and complications.
If I have to go through a written and practical test to get a drivers license, and a class and background check to get a CCW permit or a background check to buy a gun, they ought to be going through a lawful process to get into this country.
I do say the road to citizenship needs to be reformed, but letting hundreds of thousands of illegals in in a huge chunk and then millions more in over the years and then giving them all amnesty and citizenship is the dumbest *expletive deleted*ing idea ever floated...unless are a democrat looking to gain another group of people that votes 99% of the time for your party and shows blind allegiance...
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They should have done so months ago. One big problem: What would the rules of engagement be?
Question: Why is the invasion influx concentrated on Arizona and Texas? New Mexiso sits right between them, and Ciudad Juarez is very close to the Mexican side. Why aren't we seeing/hearing reports of hordes crossing into NM?
Too many folks of mexican descent in nm from the get go as a state with retarded economic development relative to ca az and tx.
Illegals are rather desperate to escape places that have developed along the mexican model.
Shorter version...new mexico is too similar to old mexico to be worth the trip.
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Wrt all the "what about the xyz illegals" questions send them all back. And all the thrice damned scheming "refugees" in the refugee racket.
Recall the refugee racket is how the tsarnaevs got to the states. They were not in danger because their dads political gangster patron run the dung heap.
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Wrt all the "what about the xyz illegals" questions send them all back. And all the thrice damned scheming "refugees" in the refugee racket.
Recall the refugee racket is how the tsarnaevs got to the states. They were not in danger because their dads political gangster patron run the dung heap.
Sarcasm or bigotry?
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Just to say it, I don't want the national guard or the army on the border until the ROE's allow them to shoot people and destroy things. Otherwise, all you will end up with is military personnel being arrested and tried and I don't want to see that. Seriously, we even tried some border partrol agents for shooting a fleeing drug runner in the behind.
The problem with the border is NOT that the people don't want border security, the problem is that too many businesses and interests are profiting off cheap labor such that politicians won't take action except to try to reign in any attempt at actual enforcement. I think most voters want border security despite all the emotional arguments, but everyone realizes most of the politicians won't push for it honestly so they don't know what can be done.
I caught a few minutes of Mark Levin's show last night and he talked a little about Operation Wetback back in the Eisenhower Presidency. He said the same thing was happenning. He had to put a general in charge who was a friend and had a direct line to his office in order to get someone in charge who wasn't subject to political influence. I think he said they deported 50,000 and an estimated 500,000 left on their own. I think he said they were deporting them much much further South into Mexico also. I bet their deportation procedure was a lot quicker and easier also. I can't imagine what sort of hoops the authorities have to jump through to deport someone today.
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Why? What if they're robbing you to get bread for their family?
Not the same. Being on one side of the line, and then moving to the other isn't the same as robbing someone.
I respectfully disagree. The illegal adults are robbing jobs and income that American citizens and legal residents could use. The illegal aliens send a HUGE proportion of the money they earn here back to their family in the home country, thereby draining the U.S. economy rather than circulating the money here and stimulating the economy. And both the adults and the children take advantage of taxpayer-supported services such as education and medical care to which they have not contributed and to which they have no legal right.
To put it bluntly, they're robbing us into the poorhouse ... they're just not doing it at gunpoint (yet).
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I watched a documentary the other day about the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and what would happen if the same magnitude were to hit today. One thing I took away from it was after the 1906 quake there was a strong push to keep the Chinese out but they were some of the only ones to actually rebuild quicker and better than others. Not sure of what all the particulars were but that seems to be the difference from past is that those that were choosing to come here actually wanted to contribute to society and not be sponges.
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Not sure of what all the particulars were but that seems to be the difference from past is that those that were choosing to come here actually wanted to contribute to society and not be sponges.
One of the changes is that in the past, they didn't have entitlements thrown at them. I'm much less concerned with illegals that come here to work, whether over or under the table than I am with those that come here specifically to get on the multi-generational entitlement gravy train. Banning entitlements to non-citizens (outside of emergency services) would be a good start to immigration reform. Doing what many countries that are considered more progressive and enlightened than the US, like Australia and New Zealand do, and requiring people to have a job or else show they have enough money to support themselves, would be another good reform as long as the path to citizenship is streamlined.
I have a friend from Canada that has been struggling to stay in the country even though she has the proper visas AND has a job. She was working as a contractor doing scientific work for the .gov in my office before I left, and as soon as her contract was up, immigration was already on her telling her she had to go back to Canada unless she got another job in 30 days (she did, a crummy one, but it was enough to keep her here while she looks for something in her area of expertise). Somehow they have the resources to keep tabs on an individual (she had to report in person to immigration at the Tijuana border on a regular basis) that came here specifically to be productive, but ignore people coming here to be leeches.
You'll find that some of the people who hate the southern border situation the most are the people who stood in line (sometimes for years, like my parents) to come here the legal way. Kinda like when someone cuts to the front of the line at Walmart and pays with EBT while you're standing at the back of the line with cash.
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^^^Sounds suspiciously like selective enforcement, biased in precisely the wrong direction, no?
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Not the same. Being on one side of the line, and then moving to the other isn't the same as robbing someone.
I respectfully disagree. The illegal adults are robbing jobs and income that American citizens and legal residents could use. The illegal aliens send a HUGE proportion of the money they earn here back to their family in the home country, thereby draining the U.S. economy rather than circulating the money here and stimulating the economy. And both the adults and the children take advantage of taxpayer-supported services such as education and medical care to which they have not contributed and to which they have no legal right.
To put it bluntly, they're robbing us into the poorhouse ... they're just not doing it at gunpoint (yet).
Illegals consuming medical that no one pays for is a massive problem in the border states. Hospitals have gone under because of it, I believe.
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Illegals consuming medical that no one pays for is a massive problem in the border states. Hospitals have gone under because of it, I believe.
Fox loony liberal blondie pundit Kristen Powers was on O'Reilly last night proclaiming that illegals don't drain the system because they're outside the system. ??? :mad: :mad: I wish someone had raised this point on the show.
It was, however, a fun segment in a way; I thought Kristen & Bill O'Reilly were gonna come to blows.
Poor Kristen .... she's such a loony-tune ...... [tinfoil] [popcorn] [tinfoil] [popcorn] ;/ ;/ =D
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Illegals consuming medical that no one pays for is a massive problem in the border states. Hospitals have gone under because of it, I believe.
Yes,there was a brief flurry about this on the news a few years ago.Quickly swept under of course.
A quick google- http://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/arizona-regional-medical-center-closing-due-to-financial-stresses
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^^^^ My administration and risk management colleagues in the hospitals on the border states can sing chapter and verse of that song. What is not commonly known about the Affordable Care Act is that the Feds have cut way back on grants and subsidies to care for the uninsured because theoretically, more of the uninsured should be insured now under the ACA. However, the undocumented immigrants cannot sign up for the ACA. Yet they keep showing up in the ER, and we still have to take care of them as required by Federal law.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/obamacare-bars-illegal-immigrants-and-sticks-hospitals-with-the-bill/282444/
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Fox loony liberal blondie pundit Kristen Powers was on O'Reilly last night proclaiming that illegals don't drain the system because they're outside the system. ??? :mad: :mad: I wish someone had raised this point on the show.
It was, however, a fun segment in a way; I thought Kristen & Bill O'Reilly were gonna come to blows.
Poor Kristen .... she's such a loony-tune ...... [tinfoil] [popcorn] [tinfoil] [popcorn] ;/ ;/ =D
I can't watch that assclown O'Reilly since he did a pro-gun control piece talking about how we need to get those machine guns and rocket launchers off our streets. ;/ :facepalm: :mad:
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Since I hate to use my best stuff at an away game, here's what I posted on this subject elsewhere on the intarwebs.
No one outside of a handful of La Raza thugs, business owners looking for slave labor, and the utopian open borders wing of the Libertarian Party wants mass illegal immigration. But most people are not directly affected by it enough to overcome the inertia of the system, the malice of our rulers, and the fear of being called raciss.
When normal folks far from the border experience a wave of armed robbery, theft, rape, and murder from these teenage MS-13 affiliated "children": when hospitals outside of the border states start collapsing under the weight of providing care that no one is paying for: when there is a national pandemic of multi-spectrum resistant TB or some other 3rd world nastiness traced back to an illegal in a detention facility: THEN people will make it stop.
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I can't watch that assclown O'Reilly since he did a pro-gun control piece talking about how we need to get those machine guns and rocket launchers off our streets. ;/ :facepalm: :mad:
I heard that and was taken aback, but it was a number of years back and he was engaging in a bit of rhetorical hyperbole.
I have noticed one thing about O'Rielly; since the Katrina fiasco he has altered his opinions on gun control to an extant. Once he favored registration and some other strict controls but he saw in Katrina the government just cannot -- or will not -- protect the people very well, and can even be dangerous.
In last night's program they were discussing Chicago's weekend problems when some 80+ people were shot and wounded or killed; one police official (their chief IIRC) on a video clip said the proliferation of guns was why this happened. O'Rielly came back and said that was total bunk, and pointed out how Chicago had strict gun prohibition and it still happened. O'Rielly pointed out it was gangster violence and they needed "stop & frisk" laws and to actually enforce the laws rather than trade lesser punishments for guilty pleas in the court, which is what they ARE doing.
He's not perfect .... but he has gotten better on gun issues.
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Meh, they're all entertainers. If they thought it'd get them more money, fame, and ratings they'd all become card carrying Communists in a hot minute.
Also, best term I've seen for this: Neue Völkerwanderung.
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Sarcasm or bigotry?
Neither. Send all the illegals back. We neither need them nor want them. If you read that as bigotry, maybe you ought to develop some sense of patriotism and sympathy for fellow Americans harmed by their presence.
And develop some curiosity WRT the refugee racket. Maybe even google the problem.
Putin's Man in Chechnya
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The Tsarnaev's dad moved back to Dagestan, part of Russia, ~10 years back. If he feared persecution for him and his, at the hand of Russians, that is a curious event.
Immigrants May Be Fed False Stories to Bolster Asylum Pleas
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/12/nyregion/immigrants-may-be-fed-false-stories-to-bolster-asylum-pleas.html?_r=2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2&
The man caught on the wiretap urged his immigrant client to fabricate a tragic past if he wanted asylum in the United States. To say that he was a victim of political repression in Albania. Or police brutality. Or even a blood feud.
“Maybe you had to leave because someone threatened to kill you,” the man suggested. “Because of something that your father did to somebody else or something to do with the land. You understand? That can be a way to get asylum.”
Often enough, it is. A shadowy industry dedicated to asylum fraud thrives in New York, where many of the country’s asylum claims are filed. Immigrants peddle personal accounts ripped from international headlines, con artists prey on the newly arrived and nonlawyers offer misguided advice.
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Everyone knows the NY Times is just a radical right ring white supremacist organization spreading lies about the poor refugees. Why not just link directly to Stromfront, you raciss?
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Everyone knows the NY Times is just a radical right ring white supremacist organization spreading lies about the poor refugees. Why not just link directly to Stromfront, you raciss?
If you insist...
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If you insist...
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Oh, sure. You had to bring illegal immigrants from other planes of existence into it. You...dimensionist.
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The Dresden files? Are you talking about the racist massed bomber raids firebombing of Northern Europeans by other Northern Europeans.....wait.
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The Dresden files? Are you talking about the racist massed bomber raids firebombing of Northern Europeans by other Northern Europeans.....wait.
Anglo-Saxons bombing the scheisse out of Saxon-Saxons. Despite close proximity, the violence went unCzeched, and the Allied taste for firebombing was Wettined.
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If you insist...
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From a later book in the series: "The building was on fire, and it wasn't my fault."
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Anglo-Saxons bombing the scheisse out of Saxon-Saxons. Despite close proximity, the violence went unCzeched, and the Allied taste for firebombing was Wettined.
No intent to Austria-cize, as I've been Hungarian for good puns as much as the next fellow, but your Pole-arizing analysis isn't really German to the conversation.
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I propose we firebomb the puns in this thread.
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I propose we firebomb the puns in this thread.
Better to take off and nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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So an interesting interview I just heard, which is an aside from anyone's stance on the immigration issue, but more to the point of potential shady stuff the administration may be doing.
The interview was with an OK Congressman (I forgot his name). He wanted to go down to one of the immigration centers in Texas and tour it to gather information before he votes one way or another on Obama's $4bil request. He said not only did it take forever to get approval, but that he was only given restricted access. No cameras, no asking questions of any staff or detainees, strictly guided tour. If he had questions, he was told he could submit them, and they would be answered via email at a later date.
Denying access to a sitting congressional rep who is being asked to spend his constituent's money on the issue? There's a little something fishy there if there isn't more to the story.
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That was Bridenstine of the 1st District, mine, and he wanted to tour the housing facility at Ft Sill.
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Since I hate to use my best stuff at an away game, here's what I posted on this subject elsewhere on the intarwebs.
No one outside of a handful of La Raza thugs, business owners looking for slave labor, and the utopian open borders wing of the Libertarian Party wants mass illegal immigration. But most people are not directly affected by it enough to overcome the inertia of the system, the malice of our rulers, and the fear of being called raciss.
When normal folks far from the border experience a wave of armed robbery, theft, rape, and murder from these teenage MS-13 affiliated "children": when hospitals outside of the border states start collapsing under the weight of providing care that no one is paying for: when there is a national pandemic of multi-spectrum resistant TB or some other 3rd world nastiness traced back to an illegal in a detention facility: even THEN people nothing will happen be done by .gov to make it stop.
FTFY
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy
BHO is currently speaking in Dallas, appears to be pushing Congress to "do something" which usually means rush through some 8k page bill they haven't read. Also Republicans are politicians and hate chillren and Mexicans.
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. . . BHO is currently speaking in Dallas, appears to be pushing Congress to "do something" which usually means rush through some 8k page bill they haven't read . . .
Well, they have to pass the bill to see what's in it, don't they?
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Well, they have to pass the bill to see what's in it, don't they?
I don't see what option we have. We just can't wait!!!!
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I don't see what option we have. We just can't wait!!!!
What difference, at this point, does it make??
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What difference, at this point, does it make??
The "hope" he can successfully "change" the subject.
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I posted this on Bacefook:
Mr. Legal vs. Mr. Illegal:
You have two families: "Mr. Legal" and "Mr. Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children, and live in California .
1.Mr. Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Mr. Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash "under the table."
Ready? Now pay attention...
2. Mr. Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Mr. Legal now has $31,231.00.
Mr. Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.0 0 per year. Mr. Illegal pays no taxes. Mr. Illegal now has $31,200.00.
3. Mr. Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Mr. Legal now has $24,031.00.
Mr. Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Mr. Illegal still has $31,200.00.
4. Mr. Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Mr. Legal now has $18,031.00.
Mr. Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Mr. Illegal still has $31,200.00.
5. Mr. Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Mr. Legal now has 9,631 .00.
Mr. Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Mr. Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Mr. Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
6. Mr. Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Mr. Legal now has $7,231.00.
Mr. Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
7. Mr. Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..
Mr. Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
8. Mr. Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Mr. Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family and friends.
9. Mr. Legal's and Mr. Illegal's children both attend the same elementary school. Mr. Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Mr. Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Mr. Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Mr. Legal's children go home.
10. Now, when they reach college age, Mr. Legal's kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Mr. Legal has been paying for State Schools through his taxes, while Mr. Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a minority.
11. Mr. Legal and Mr. Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Mr. Legal paid for them and Mr. Illegal did not pay.
Do you get it, now?
If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens. You
are part of the problem!
It's actually worse then that. Mr. Illegal does file a tax return showing that he made between $10-$15k, but with deductions and exemptions (like a bunch of nieces and nephews that still live in Mexico) he pays no taxes but comes close if not maximizing the EITC thereby getting another $3-5k in taxpayer money.
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/must-see-video-black-americans-confront-pro-illegal-immigrant-supporters-in-murrieta/
This is becoming interesting.
EDIT
Future Perry Campaign ad. Pictures are worth thousands of words.
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/07/10/photos-obama-laughs-his-way-through-meeting-with-gov-perry/
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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/07/must-see-video-black-americans-confront-pro-illegal-immigrant-supporters-in-murrieta/
This is becoming interesting.
DNC gets tens of millions of reliable voters who are brown, it stops needing the ones who are black. No more pandering to the race baiting "community organizers" when you don't need black votes.
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http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/155553-cant-go-back-houston-black-woman-drops-epic-rant-obamas-failure-deal-border-crisis/
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-11/classrooms-in-u-s-prepare-for-flood-as-migrants-become-pupils.html
Public services further stretched thin.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-11/classrooms-in-u-s-prepare-for-flood-as-migrants-become-pupils.html
Public services further stretched thin.
Gee its almost as if you can't have a welfare state and unlimited immigration.