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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Stand_watie on July 23, 2014, 01:45:51 AM
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Please tell me this is not a photoshop job. The pure joy on the young man's face brought a ray of sunshine into my evening.
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweaselzippers.us%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FBtE9vbeCYAAxEiy.jpg&hash=5999cb127faf74780f419d5430cfc4e2aca43a9b)
http://weaselzippers.us/194096-pic-of-the-day-code-pink-leader-gets-photobombed-by-israel-supporter-while-giving-anti-israel-speech/
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Please tell me this is not a photoshop job. The pure joy on the young man's face brought a ray of sunshine into my evening.
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fweaselzippers.us%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2FBtE9vbeCYAAxEiy.jpg&hash=5999cb127faf74780f419d5430cfc4e2aca43a9b)
http://weaselzippers.us/194096-pic-of-the-day-code-pink-leader-gets-photobombed-by-israel-supporter-while-giving-anti-israel-speech/
If it's a photoshop job, it's a very good one...there's a slight reflection of the guy holding the sign in the glass behind them that would be hard to fake so well, if a faker even thought to add it at all.
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The *expletive deleted*che next to him seems to be staring right at him with a look of disgust.
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The *expletive deleted* next to him seems to be staring right at him with a look of disgust.
+1. Suggests to me it's legit.
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Not getting the whole "Stand with Israel" thing I see across conservative facebook. I wholeheartedly endorse them grinding into dust Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and any other terrorist they can fit into a bombsight. I think they should tell the UN to FOAD. But stand with Israel? Maybe after they stop spying on us and do some serious explaining regarding the USS Liberty.
As for Code Pink they need to go over to Gaza and show their support.
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Not getting the whole "Stand with Israel" thing I see across conservative facebook. I wholeheartedly endorse them grinding into dust Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and any other terrorist they can fit into a bombsight. I think they should tell the UN to FOAD. But stand with Israel? Maybe after they stop spying on us and do some serious explaining regarding the USS Liberty.
As for Code Pink they need to go over to Gaza and show their support.
Have no issue with them spying on us since we spy on them and everyone else in the world.
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Have no issue with them spying on us since we spy on them and everyone else in the world.
They also conduct active espionage and attempt to blackmail US govt personnel. We have no way of knowing whether it was an IDF screwup, or a deliberate intelligence operation, that killed numerous US sailors. PRC and Russia are our main espionage opponents, then Israel. It's a long way down to the next state, which is France. Never, EVER confuse a country's intelligence service with their host country. We can be allies with a country, and enemies with its intelligence service. That is the case with Israel and Pakistan. We can be enemies with a country and allies with its intelligence service. That is the case with... other countries.
Trust me, I have plenty of stories. I like Israel as a country, I like Israelis as a group, I'm meh regarding the Israeli government and military, but I'm not a complete blind fool when it comes to their intelligence services.
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Not getting the whole "Stand with Israel" thing I see across conservative facebook. I wholeheartedly endorse them grinding into dust Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and any other terrorist they can fit into a bombsight. I think they should tell the UN to FOAD. But stand with Israel? Maybe after they stop spying on us and do some serious explaining regarding the USS Liberty.
As for Code Pink they need to go over to Gaza and show their support.
Like gay marriage, or any other number of issues, it stands in as a proxy-fight for the American "culture war" for both sides, and with far less than perfect alignment than either side nominally holds.
For conservatives, the breakdown with Israel is at the above mentioned USS Liberty incident, whether a simple screw-up on the part of the IDF, or a false-flag operation to try and draw us into the war on their side, or something in between, we may never know, their espionage efforts against the U.S., and the country is incredibly Leftist/Socialist even by European standards.
For liberals, the breakdown with the Palestinians is obvious, as most any Islamic/Islamist society is completely at odds with almost every last social freedom the American Left claims to hold dear.
As usual though, the cognitive dissonance load is greater on the Left than it is on the Right. Israel is nominally friendly with Western Civ in the general sense, so the alignment with the US political right at least makes some sense.
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They also conduct active espionage and attempt to blackmail US govt personnel. We have no way of knowing whether it was an IDF screwup, or a deliberate intelligence operation, that killed numerous US sailors. PRC and Russia are our main espionage opponents, then Israel. It's a long way down to the next state, which is France. Never, EVER confuse a country's intelligence service with their host country. We can be allies with a country, and enemies with its intelligence service. That is the case with Israel and Pakistan. We can be enemies with a country and allies with its intelligence service. That is the case with... other countries.
Trust me, I have plenty of stories. I like Israel as a country, I like Israelis as a group, I'm meh regarding the Israeli government and military, but I'm not a complete blind fool when it comes to their intelligence services.
Based on my MOS I'm quite versed in what countries do what with whom. As the one saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Also at one time and may still be that way the I-25 corridor from Denver to Colorado Springs was one of if not the biggest hotbed for enemy intelligence operatives
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They also conduct active espionage and attempt to blackmail US govt personnel.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
You cannot blackmail honest people.
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Based on my MOS I'm quite versed in what countries do what with whom. As the one saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Also at one time and may still be that way the I-25 corridor from Denver to Colorado Springs was one of if not the biggest hotbed for enemy intelligence operatives
I've never really agreed with the enemy of my enemy shtick. I'm more "the enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy and might, with all due caution, be usefully engaged in working against a common enemy."
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I've never really agreed with the enemy of my enemy shtick. I'm more "the enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy and might, with all due caution, be usefully engaged in working against a common enemy."
I prefer "the enemy of my enemy is a much more expendable distraction than any of my own people."
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. . . I'm meh regarding the Israeli government and military . . . .
That would probably be the view of many Americans towards the current US government, and parts of the military.
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The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy: no more, no less
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Also at one time and may still be that way the I-25 corridor from Denver to Colorado Springs was one of if not the biggest hotbed for enemy intelligence operatives
I like to learn something every day. Why is this area significant from an intelligence perspective? Cheyenne Mountain and the Space Command?
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I like to learn something every day. Why is this area significant from an intelligence perspective? Cheyenne Mountain and the Space Stargate Command?
FTFY. :)
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I don't care if we actively support Israel or not, but I would like to see us and liberals here stop getting in Israel's way when they finally react and start stomping on the terrorists. They never say crap about the evil crap the islamofascists are doing, but get up in arms and demand cease fires when Israel finally counter attacks.
Not to mention that every President in the last 60 years seems to think they have to take a turn at Peace in the Middle East. Give it a rest already.
Ambivalence or meh toward Israel would be an improvement.
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I like to learn something every day. Why is this area significant from an intelligence perspective? Cheyenne Mountain and the Space Command?
NORAD at Cheyenne Mountain, Space Command at Peterson Air Field, Air Force Academy, Ft Carson and then some secret squirrel stuff that was going on in Denver is just what I knew about at the time, this was in 89-90.
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I don't care if we actively support Israel or not, but I would like to see us and liberals here stop getting in Israel's way when they finally react and start stomping on the terrorists. They never say crap about the evil crap the islamofascists are doing, but get up in arms and demand cease fires when Israel finally counter attacks.
Aren't we sending foreign aid to the Palestinian terrorists? Maybe Obama & Co. are afraid the Israelis are going to blow up something they we paid for . . .
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We send money to everyone in one way or the other, but yes, you are correct. We are sending money to Israel also.
I can't see that any of the money really helps.