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Title: This may leave a mark - police have no duty to protect individual not absolute
Post by: vaskidmark on August 12, 2014, 10:23:29 AM

http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=51031

A link to the case via The Volockh Conspiracy (which seems to be wonky this morning (8/12) and an analysis

Discussion at CalGuns http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=14645326

Getting to the actual decision seems problematic this morning (8/12).  Maybe later?

Basic facts - Vaugh picked up a stick to protect himself.  Police told him to drop the stick.  Guy Vaughn was seeking to protect himself from hit Vaughn on the head with a metal baseball bat.  Vaughn died.  Oh, yeah - police did not tell baseball bat guy to put it down.  IMHO the details pretty much suggest several pooches have been screwed.

stay safe.

Title: Re: This may leave a mark - police have no duty to protect individual not absolute
Post by: Kingcreek on August 12, 2014, 10:38:10 AM

<insert any name> vs Chicago PD
Chicago PD has a history of losing.

must be a reason

Title: Re: This may leave a mark - police have no duty to protect individual not absolute
Post by: RoadKingLarry on August 12, 2014, 11:34:58 PM

But hey, at least the cops all got to go home safe at the end of their shift.

Title: Re: This may leave a mark - police have no duty to protect individual not absolute
Post by: MechAg94 on August 13, 2014, 07:03:03 AM

Wouldn't police have been justified shooting the baseball bat guy?  What were they doing?
This might be interesting to read further. 

Title: Re: This may leave a mark - police have no duty to protect individual not absolute
Post by: zxcvbob on August 14, 2014, 08:55:46 PM

Quote from: MechAg94 on August 13, 2014, 07:03:03 AM

Wouldn't police have been justified shooting the baseball bat guy?  What were they doing?
This might be interesting to read further. 

If they did that, they wouldn't get to watch a good beatdown.  (seriously, I think that's it)